From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V3 #139 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Thursday, May 28 1998 Volume 03 : Number 139 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: not very rarities/b-sides [Wargun2438 ] Alloy: Lazlo's ftp site ["Stephen M. Tilson" ] Alloy: Plug.in convention ["Denise D Luckey" ] Re: Alloy: not very rarities/b-sides ["Denise D Luckey" ] Re: Alloy: Plug.in convention [RThurF@aol.com] Alloy: Thanks Michael!! [RThurF@aol.com] Alloy: Help save Robin's brain! [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Help save Robin's brain! [MsSakamoto@aol.com] Alloy: Conventions [Elaine Linstruth ] Re: Alloy: Help save Robin's brain! [Elaine Linstruth ] Re: Alloy: more bike advice? [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Help save Robin's brain! [Michael and Denise Luckey Subject: Re: Alloy: not very rarities/b-sides In a message dated 98-05-26 18:50:57 EDT, you write: << Dolby 45s are not that numerous and you can probably assemble a fairly complete collection quickly if you so desired. Hopefully someone else can fill in the spaces that I've left since I don't have much after 1985. Happy hunting! Michael >> Any suggestions as to where to look for these singles? (pant, pant!) - -warren ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 06:31:21 -0400 From: "Stephen M. Tilson" Subject: Alloy: Lazlo's ftp site Earlier Lazlo posted the following URL pointing us to a scan of TMDR in a publicity still from Howard the Duck: ftp://ftp.basis.com/pub/users/lazlo/miscpics/ I tried it but only got as far as the subdirectory "pub". The remainder of the directory structure isn't there. Lazlo, could you take a look at this please and post the correction so we may view your rare photo of Thomas the Barkeep? Many thanks, /\/\iles the |-|unter of porch lights, ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 06:31:22 -0400 From: "Stephen M. Tilson" Subject: Alloy: Dolby rarities! Well well well! There have been some great responses to this thread. I am happily collecting and collating them for our catalog. But I still need to hear from all the collectors on the list to attain completeness. If you would rather not post to the world what your Dolbynalia contains send your list of items to me privately and I will see that your anonymity is preserved. Kudos to our newly found member, Michael, for posting that cracking good list! It is really nice that you have found us. Welcome, again! BTW, you asked about promo items from the Aliens tour. I'm sorry to say there weren't any. However, there exists the possibility of posters and handbills promoting the tour, plus the same for those shows the Lost Toy People performed in California (1987?) prior to recording the album. Europa has one from the `official' tour, I think. Keep `em coming! And, ahem, I know of a few important collectors we haven't heard from yet . . . Must I name you, nay, shame you into participating?!? Anyroadup, /\/\iles the /\rchivist ********************************************************************* "My butt fascinates me . . . I mean, I like it so much that when I dance I'm always looking back at it." ---Tori Spelling ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 15:16:03 -0500 From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com Subject: Re[2]: Alloy: Dolby lists - --IMA.Boundary.467572698 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part THE Warren G, I presume ? ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Alloy: Dolby lists Author: Wargun2438 at Internet Date: 25/05/98 14:36 Wonderful collection! Any suggestions for us out here on where any of these delightful selections might still be found? This is sure to be one of the more challenging areas to collect! Thanks for giving hope that there are excellent additions to be found (hopefully), Warren - --IMA.Boundary.467572698 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from ns2.baxter.com (159.198.1.38) by ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 00433132; Mon, 25 May 98 13:57:19 - -0500 Received: from mermaid.shore.net (mermaid.shore.net [207.244.124.6]) by ns2.baxter.com (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id NAA24622 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 13:56:10 - -0500 (CDT) Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] by mermaid.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) id 0ye2Qs-0006wT-00; Mon, 25 May 1998 14:57:14 -0400 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id OAA03153; Mon, 25 May 1998 14:46:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Mon, 25 May 1998 14:46:44 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id OAA03064 for alloy-outgoing; Mon, 25 May 1998 14:37:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.37]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with ESMTP id OAA03060 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 14:37:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Wargun2438@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv14.1) id FTNKa25732 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 14:36:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Wargun2438 Message-ID: <38ff4b47.3569ba12@aol.com> Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 14:36:00 EDT To: alloy@smoe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Alloy: Dolby lists Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 Sender: owner-alloy@smoe.org Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. Precedence: bulk - --IMA.Boundary.467572698-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 09:49:58 -0600 From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: Alloy: Lazlo's ftp site On Wed, May 27, 1998 at 06:31:21AM -0400, Stephen M. Tilson wrote: > Earlier Lazlo posted the following URL pointing us to a scan of TMDR in a > publicity still from Howard the Duck: > > ftp://ftp.basis.com/pub/users/lazlo/miscpics/ Wow, I'm a nitwit. Try . Sorry about that! - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 14:25:08 -0000 From: "Denise D Luckey" Subject: Alloy: Plug.in convention Whoa nellie! I had no idea the admission fee to plug.in would be $1000.00+. I've been to several trade shows before and the most tickets have ever been is $100.00. Denise and I were planning a summer vacation up north with plug.in being one of our stops but it looks like we'll have to scrap that idea. Does anyone know if this is the norm for Headspace sponsored corporate events? The headspace webpage can provide more information if anyone is interested. Michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 14:17:55 -0000 From: "Denise D Luckey" Subject: Re: Alloy: not very rarities/b-sides Nearly all of the singles I've accumulated came from a store named "Crying Saucer Imports" in South Carolina. They had (at that time) nearly every 45 Dolby had done in both US and UK versions. Having more money than sense back then I purchased both versions of each copy to be a completist. A store named "Schoolkids Records and Tapes" in Michigan stocked the Japanese versions of these records so I started again and purchased these variations of 45s and LPs. The Japanese "Blinded By Science" EP is my all-time favorite Dolby cover. I'm not sure if either one of these stores still exists but I have seen several dealers in Goldmine listing some of the same 45s for sale. Remember, if you don't already have it I have some copies of the US 45 for Hyperactive floating around here somewhere. Before you know it you'll be up to your knees in Dolby 45s with a little research! Michael - ---------- > From: Wargun2438 > To: alloy@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Alloy: not very rarities/b-sides > Date: Wednesday, May 27, 1998 7:41 AM > > > In a message dated 98-05-26 18:50:57 EDT, you write: > > << Dolby > 45s are not that numerous and you can probably assemble a fairly complete > collection quickly if you so desired. Hopefully someone else can fill in > the spaces that I've left since I don't have much after 1985. > Happy hunting! > Michael >> > > Any suggestions as to where to look for these singles? (pant, pant!) > -warren ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 16:08:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Alloy: Accordion Life Hey gang. Haven't been on the list much lately. Been busy gig wise. Just played an Irish pub in Waterloo and was thrilled when I found out beer was free for the band. Drank my weight in Guinness. ;) I got an E-mail last week from a fellow who lives on the Isle of Jersey, a small English island in the channel just off the coast of France. He did a web search for "accordion" and "canada" and my webpage was the first one to pop up. He downloaded my midi files and wanted to tell me how much he liked them (especially the Spaghetti Western one). He also told me he was originally from Hamilton and was coming into town that weekend for a family reunion and wanted to know if he could rent one of my accordions for it. I told him he could borrow one for free. In gratitude he bought me many a beer at a local bar and favoured us with some accordion tunes. I've also recently become an honourary member of a Hamilton Punk-a-billy band called "I Love My Shih-Tsu". (those of you who took part in the tape exchange will know them). I played a gig with them two weeks ago and it was a hoot. The accordion works really well with their music. Been having a great time. The weather has been fantastic so I haven't felt much like sitting down at the computer. CRACKERS (Still alive from hell!!!!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 18:10:47 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Plug.in convention In a message dated 5/27/98 2:45:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael writes: << Whoa nellie! I had no idea the admission fee to plug.in would be $1000.00+. I've been to several trade shows before and the most tickets have ever been is $100.00. Denise and I were planning a summer vacation up north with plug.in being one of our stops but it looks like we'll have to scrap that idea. Does anyone know if this is the norm for Headspace sponsored corporate events? >> I didn't know it was $1,000.00 - but when I read the offer for $100 *off* admission, I figured this wasn't the right time or place for me to hear Thomas speak! I don't know what the norm is for such events. It seems like the participants are most likely aiming toward somewhat of a more serious professional programmer/musican/corporate type crowd, who will use what they learn at Plug.in to significantly further the medium on the whole. Robin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 18:30:51 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Alloy: Thanks Michael!! Hi Michael! I'm happy to report that YES, the poster(s) and badge arrived safely with me, and were waiting on my workbench yesterday morning. THANK YOU MICHAEL!!! I'm in your debt! The Hyperactive poster is just as amazing as I had envisioned. I have to say it's much bigger than I expected & I couldn't hang it in my office at work after all, but I do have it here at home with me now, in a place of honor. I'll be sure to take a photo of myself with it as you requested... and don't be surprised if you get something else in the mail from me as well, as a gesture of thanks for your great kindness! Do you like excellent homebrewed beer, by any chance? Robin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 18:40:23 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Alloy: Help save Robin's brain! What are your favorite books, members of Alloy? I need something new to read & could use some good advice. If you have any suggestions for me, can you name the book & author as well as what it's generally about? Thank you for helping me!!! Robin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 18:48:34 EDT From: MsSakamoto@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Help save Robin's brain! In a message dated 5/27/98 10:42:39 PM !!!First Boot!!!, RThurF@aol.com writes: > What are your favorite books, members of Alloy? I need something new to read & > > could use some good advice. If you have any suggestions for me, can you name > the book & author as well as what it's generally about? Thank you for > helping > me!!! Try _Drawing Blood_ by Poppy Z. Brite...it's kind of a haunted-house love story. - --Suzanne-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 16:56:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Alloy: Conventions Not being sure if this is an issue in this case, I thought I'd mention anyway that a lot of the time there can be a huge difference between a convention's attendee's fee versus an exhibitor's fee. Sounds like this particular convention wants to keep its attendees limited to "serious" buyers, therefore the large attendance fee. (As opposed to lookylous like us that just wanna see someone but not buy anything from the exhibitors.) Not long ago someone posted something with a $2400+ fee from a solicitous email, but it was trolling for exhibitors (not attendees). At the time, the conversation turned toward the "huge asking price to see Thomas in person." For that particular one, it was a large fee to reserve space to sell products in a booth. I didn't mention it then, not sure why I am now - -- maybe it's just the ex-meeting planner in me scratching to get out. - -- Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 17:02:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Re: Alloy: Help save Robin's brain! I just read "Into Thin Air" by Jon Krakauer. It's about the '96 Mt. Everest disaster. Aside from being a moving human interest story, I learned a bit about mountaineers and how the whole climbing culture works. I read that, and "The Cuckoo's Egg" by Cliff Stoll while on my trip. It's another non-fiction story, about a computer hacker that was tracked to eventual international prosecution by a geeky, Berkeley, long-haired hippie freak vegetarian astronomer. :-) (It's been out several years and this was my second read.) If you're into fiction, I can't help ya. For some reason, I've always more enjoyed reading non. (?) Let us know what you pick! - -- Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) On Wed, 27 May 1998 RThurF@aol.com wrote: > > What are your favorite books, members of Alloy? I need something new to read & > could use some good advice. If you have any suggestions for me, can you name > the book & author as well as what it's generally about? Thank you for helping > me!!! > > Robin > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 22:08:43 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: more bike advice? In a message dated 5/26/98 7:29:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Slarvi writes: << I'm sure you'll look very professional in that gear, but like new trainers, you may want to give them a used and lived-in look before wearing them on the open road. Makes you look less like a newby.>> If the new gear doesn't give me away, then the look of stark raving fear in my eyes will (which is why I'll always wear shades while riding) This morning, I rode in traffic for the very first time in my life!! No cars hit me at all! I was so proud, I couldn't wait to get home & tell Slarvi all about it... unfortunately I didn't make it all the way to work on the bike. I had to chicken out & go to work on foot instead, because of a physics miscalculation... the fact that my backpack - which weighs about 12 pounds - would cause certain important parts of my anatomy to be crushed even more excruciatingly than expected no matter how I positioned myself on the saddle (when I practiced in the cemetery I never thought to wear the backpack, since I hardly notice the weight when walking to work). It was all I could do to make it back around the reservoir, and limp back up to my apartment carrying the unwieldly instrument of my own torture... I must get a bag which mounts directly to the bike, AND a softer bike seat, before I attempt the ride again! <> I've heard plenty about 'NPS' but not about the female version of this syndrome... after today, I really sympathize with you men! Yikes! Robin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 23:22:21 +0000 From: Michael and Denise Luckey Subject: Re: Alloy: Help save Robin's brain! One of my favorites which is now available on video is "Contact" by Carl Sagan. The book is a little more technical than the movie and has a different ending and might be a consideration if you haven't read it yet. Also, for history buffs Robert Graves' "I, Claudius" and "Claudius The God" make surprisingly good reads if you're familiar with the PBS series in particular. Glad you like the poster and now we can add you to the list of locales waiting to HYPERACTIVATE! Did you ever hear the 7-Up commercial from 85-86 with Hyperactive in the background? It's the only commercial tie-in for Dolby on the radio which I ever heard. Good luck with the reading (my wife goes through a book a week putting me to shame!), Michael RThurF@aol.com wrote: > What are your favorite books, members of Alloy? I need something new to read & > could use some good advice. If you have any suggestions for me, can you name > the book & author as well as what it's generally about? Thank you for helping > me!!! > > Robin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 22:36:57 -0700 From: Turquoise Dolphin Subject: Re: Alloy: Help save Robin's brain! RThurF@aol.com wrote: > > What are your favorite books, members of Alloy? I need something new to read & > could use some good advice. If you have any suggestions for me, can you name > the book & author as well as what it's generally about? Thank you for helping > me!!! > > Robin One of my favorite books is Steven Levy's "Hackers, Hereos of The Computer Revolution", which tells the tale of the beginnings of the modern computer age, from MIT to the Apple II, and beyond, and it talks about all the interesting people that made it possible. Though it's a non-fiction book, it reads like a good story, and Levy's relatively unbiased, and somewhat humorous writing style, makes it worth a read, if you like computers. :) - - Turq. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 21:26:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "Charles E. Kemp" Subject: Re: Alloy: Help save Robin's brain! > > > What are your favorite books, members of Alloy? I need something new to read & > could use some good advice. If you have any suggestions for me, can you name > the book & author as well as what it's generally about? Thank you for helping > me!!! > > Robin > oh goodness... I rarely have time to read anymore, so I pretty much stick to reading the same thing over and over again. The main victim of my pageturning is my copies of the Dune saga, particularly the last three books since they are of a more philosophical bent. No matter which one of the books you pick up, you are sure to find a quote worthy of sticking in your .sig After that, I read some Joseph Wambaugh books. Yeah, I know that detective stories may not be your cup of tea, but Wambaugh's experience as a policeman adds a punch of realism to the genre, particularly with regard to such things that are commonplace in American policing like Divorce and Alcoholism. _The Golden Orange_ was the book that made me decide not to become a policeman, even though that was what I was going to school for. I saw too much of myself in the lead carachter and decided that I didn't want to end up that way. other than that, I stick to Edward Rutherfurd's historical novels _Sarum_ and _Russka_, and Gibbon's _Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire_. ****** Charles E. Kemp ****** cekemp@netcom.com ****** (812) 597-5950 ****** Just for the sake of it make sure you're always frowning, it shows the world that you've got substance and depth. - Neil Tennant ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V3 #139 ***************************