From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V3 #109 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Friday, April 24 1998 Volume 03 : Number 109 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: Dear Slarvi . . . ["Stephen M. Tilson" ] Alloy: Fwd: Announcing: lilith-fair-fans list on smoe.org [Paul Baily ] Alloy: Ignorance is bliss.. [John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.bax] Re: Alloy: Defending "Saint" Joan [DAbbitt32 ] Re: Alloy: Ignorance is bliss.. [RThurF ] Re: Alloy: teletubbies [IT Admin - Govt Office North West Subject: Alloy: Dear Slarvi . . . Slarvi sadly mentioned: > This message powered by a nasty cough I've acquired in the last > 24 hours. Think I'm coming down with the flu. Time for bed and a > hot toddy. Sorry to hear that, old boy. Hmmmm, Mary's had a nasty cough she's been unable to shake for some time . . . Is there *anybody* on this list that hasn't got `something' going on with my girlfriend? You didn't *all* fall for that, "Trust me, I'm a doctor." line, did you?!? /\/\ischevious /\/\iles P.S. Bill, you heal up quick now, heah? And just who is this "hot toddy" you're going to bed with? Have you told your family? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 04:22:47 -0400 From: "Stephen M. Tilson" Subject: Alloy: Live Wireless John Hanson wrote: > Not that I'm one to condone crime (viz-a-vis illegal copying of > video cassettes), but I would love a copy of this.... PAL or PAL > SECAM formats only. Anyone any ideas ??? Personally, I can find nothing wrong with copying out-of-print media for friends at cost or for trade. If the publisher has a problem with this they should first make sure the media in question is commercially available. /\/\iles the |-|eretic ********************************************************************* To err is human; to forgive, "bad command or file name". ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Apr 98 23:08:49 +1000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Alloy: Fwd: Announcing: lilith-fair-fans list on smoe.org Hi y'all, Though I've not seen any messages here on LF, I thought I'd forward this on behalf of one of Alloy's sister lists in case you're interested. Birds of a feather'n'all... stay well, P. - ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- Date: 23/04 3:45 pm Received: 23/04 6:16 pm From: jason and jill, jgreshes@netaxs.com To: [all the list owners at smoe] Hi everyone. My name is Jason Greshes and I run the Paula Cole (harbinger) list here on smoe.org. After talking with the Jeff and us agreeing that there's been a lot of duplication of posts and info concerning Lilith Fair on many different lists, we've decided to create one list where people can discuss Lilith Fair, ask questions concerning venues, prices, vendors, hooking up at Lilith Fair, asking for directions to various fairs, posting updates concerning dates and artists performing, discussing products available at Lilith Fair, etc. etc. Basically, your one-stop Lilith Fair info and discussion shop. If you run a list where subscribers are interested in Lilith Fair, I'd appreciate it if you could forward this info to your list. Lately there have been people doing a lot of crossposting among our lists, and lilith-fair-fans is in part intended the lighten the duplicated traffic and prevent any of our lists from getting taken over by Lilith posts as the summer wears on. - --------------------- Announcing lilith-fair-fans, a email list devoted to Lilith Fair '98. The purpose of the list is to serve as central place for Lilith Fair questions and discussion. Topics include venue information, ticket sale days and prices, meeting at Lilith Fair, vendors, artist confirmations, etc. etc. Your one-stop Lilith-Fair info and discussion center. To subscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: subscribe lilith-fair-fans =or= subscribe lilith-fair-fans-digest if you prefer the digest version. When you sub you will receive a long file giving all the dates and venue information so far. The list is for both news and discussion concerning Lilith Fair. It also is a fan-run list and has no official relationship or endorsed relationship with Lilith Fair, Sarah or Nettwerk. Thanks, Jason Greshes, listowner - ----------------- End Forwarded Message ----------------- ________________________________________________________________________ Paul Baily paulb@thehub.com.au Consulting SE/IT Contractor http://www.thehub.com.au/~paulb Brisbane, Australia tel: +61-7-3857-8048/+61-411-875-009 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Apr 98 23:08:43 +1000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Re: Alloy: Defending "Saint" Joan Hi y'all, >**************/\/\iles the Dragon defends St. Joan******************* > >Recent commentary here has inspired me to emerge from my lair . . . Whoa now, cool your jets there Firebird. This is Alloy: here everyone has a right to an opinion, everyone else has the right to disagree, but is also expected to respect fellow listee's opinions, and accept - even appreciate the differences. If you really want to take someone to task on their opinion, think along the lines of 'have you looked at it this way?' as opposed to 'you're WRONG!' or 'my opinion counts more than yours'. If you want to labour a point, take it offline. Better yet, wait a day or a night to cool off before making sparks with a keyboard. Everyone think about that a minute before hitting the reply button. I'm not just meaning you here Steph - though your reply here was definitely the one that prompted me to say something. We've had a couple of incidents here of late and though I've been reading, I've not had a chance until post-deadline to give non-MW email due attention. A similar occurrence: Elaine had a bit of a good-natured jibe at Jewel and jokingly thought of trolling the jewel list, also hosted on smoe. Unfortunately, the jewel list (and therefore Alloy since it's on the same host) has recently been the target of some pretty vicious and debilitating denial of service attacks. If you're not sure of what that means let me rephrase: it's of the calibre of someone not just shooting out your porch light, but putting a fair sized rock through every window. It's a credit to Jeff & co's quiet behind the scenes work that you barely felt a thing. Elaine had no way of knowing this or that as a result of the attacks our list host, Jeff Wasilko would (understandably) be very sensitive about it right now. It's an unfortunate coincidence, and knowing the people involved, I know there was no ill feeling or offence meant. Bottom line: relax a little people. We're friends here, remember? If anyone has any issues, or wants to take me to task on this, by all means do so by email or phone, but do so privately. Let's not clog up the list with more of this, eh? Paul. (Alloy admin guy in case you forgot.) This message powered by "Frozen" off Ray of Light/Madonna. ________________________________________________________________________ Paul Baily paulb@thehub.com.au JustSomeGuy http://www.thehub.com.au/~paulb Brisbane tel: +61-7-3857-8048/+61-411-875-009 Australia If I could melt your heart... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 16:02:07 -0500 From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com Subject: Alloy: Ignorance is bliss.. Hello all.. who on earth is Jewel, anyway ? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I was made to look a bit of a t**t recently because I fell into the trap of criticizing something I don't know a lot about... A French songstress called Barbara died here recently; I'd never heard of her... on the news they played about twenty seconds of one of her songs when announcing her demise, and it wasn't exactly what you'd call my taste in music, so I contributed my stupid two pen'orth as per. On OUI FM the other morining (the only half decent station here) they played a song by Jean-Louis Aubert (ex-Telephone frontman) and I really liked it, called "Le Jour Se Leve Encore". When discussing this with my better half, she told me that the song was written by none other than... Barbara. So... There is a moral in this story. MTCBWY, encore et encore John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 12:09:05 EDT From: DAbbitt32 Subject: Re: Alloy: Defending "Saint" Joan In a message dated 4/23/98 6:30:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time, my dear friend Paul Bailey took everyone to task for taking anyone to task, to which I wish to reply the following: I didn't think the message defending Joan Osborne and her (or her former guitarist's) music was in the least bit derogatory. In fact, I found it to be a very well written and informative post, with a special commendation to the provided background story on "One Of Us". The comments made regarding "flaming" on the Jewel list were made in jest, and that they came at a bad time for the smoe.org team was unfortunate, though coincidental. Also, that such flippant remarks could have such a major impact on the flow of the Alloy list seems silly to me. We know we're all friends here, over the years the comraderie we've displayed through our various letters are proof of that. I haven't seen a single post between Alloy subscribers which would signal otherwise, even when we've disagreed I've found it to be with respect and intelligence. It's healthy that we have differing opinions, even when it's about something we all agree about (ie. Thomas' music). These conversations spur our minds and by doing so pump the life's-blood of this list. There's my two pennies. - -Dabbitt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 18:22:22 EDT From: RThurF Subject: Re: Alloy: Ignorance is bliss.. In a message dated 4/23/98 10:25:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com writes: << I was made to look a bit of a t**t recently >> a t**t? !!! does t**t = ...tart? teat? twit? taft? trot? that? tuft? test? ...Nah!!! PLease tell me what the censored word is!! Robin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 00:15:03 +0100 (BST) From: IT Admin - Govt Office North West Subject: Re: Alloy: teletubbies At 20:53 21/04/98 -0700, Charles wrote: > > ..... and told me about Super Chicken Thanks for that. I'll keep an eye out for it on the Cartoon Network. Slarv ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 00:15:00 +0100 (BST) From: IT Admin - Govt Office North West Subject: Re: Alloy: Dear Slarvi . (cough, cough) At 04:22 23/04/98 -0400, /\/\ischevious /\/\iles wrote: > > >Sorry to hear that, old boy. Hmmmm, Mary's had a nasty cough she's been >unable to shake for some time . . . > Commiserations. >Is there *anybody* on this list that hasn't got `something' going on with >my girlfriend? > Yes, he's a lurker called Eric Jenlappendoomer, he lives in the Outer Hebrides where the electricity is only on for one hour per month and he's not allowed out of his crofter's shack during any week with a Friday in it. He was dumped on the island as an infant, since when he has never had any direct human contact, was raised by wild sheep and has no concept of the terms 'female,' 'woman' or 'opposite sex.' >/\/\ischevious /\/\iles > >P.S. Bill, you heal up quick now, heah? Thanks. The cough is still here but the aches and pains seem to be on the wane. Should be back to work on Monday, unless I have a relapse. > And just who is this "hot toddy" you're going to bed with? Have you told your family? > That's hot TODDY, not hot TOTTY. An entirely different thing. A hot toddy is a warmed alcoholic beverage taken for its medicinal purposes, where as a hot totty is MRS Slarvibarglhee. TT [cough, cough] FN Slarv ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V3 #109 ***************************