From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V3 #86 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Tuesday, March 31 1998 Volume 03 : Number 086 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: AS/400 program bugs & ILE dumps [John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mc] Alloy: Potato chips (or "crisps," for the non-U.S. members) [Beth Meyer <] Re: Alloy: Potato chips (or "crisps," for the non-U.S. membe [John_Hanson] Alloy: Re: Potato Chips... [Turquoise Dolphin ] Re: Alloy: Potato chips (or "crisps," for the non-U.S. members) [Robyn Mo] Re: Alloy: Bad Lyrics [IT Admin - Govt Office North West ] RE: Alloy: Strange snack foods [John Schofield ] RE: Alloy: Strange snack foods [Ulfstedt Louise at Internet Date: 29/03/98 18:25 On Mon, 30 Mar 1998, IT Admin - Govt Office North West wrote: > O.K. I don't know about this one, and I promise not to subscribe to the > Oldfield list, but will you tell us what the song and lyric are? No way!!! > P U L E A S E .......... pretty P U L E A S E . Well, no....really, I can't. I musn't! > Oh, go on, go on, go on, GO ON, be a pal. Oh, okay then, if you put it that way...but it's rather mundane, really. The song is known as 'On Horseback', the fan-named finale on Ommadawn (so this 'song' really doesn't have a name). The silly lyric is (well, the whole song is silly, actually) 'Some make chaos (cars) and others, toys.' American fans tend to hear 'cars' while Europeans hear 'chaos'. Unfortunately, neither choice is more sensible than the other in the context of the song so it's not obvious which it is. Well, I did say it wasn't very interesting! :) > >own of the 'Xcuse me while I kiss this guy' Jimi hendrix variety. :) > Yeah, well, what's wrong with THAT lyric? Nothing; I like it better than 'kiss the sky'. ;-) - --Omega - --IMA.Boundary.975442198 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from ns1.baxter.com (159.198.180.56) by ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 0038A7CD; Sun, 29 Mar 98 17:16:50 - -0600 Received: from siren.shore.net (siren.shore.net [207.244.124.5]) by ns1.baxter.com (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id RAA21385 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 17:30:50 - -0600 (CST) Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] (root) by siren.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) id 0yJRXQ-00038V-00; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 18:30:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id SAA09967; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 18:31:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Sun, 29 Mar 1998 18:31:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id SAA09906 for alloy-outgoing; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 18:28:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from sheppard.torfree.net (root@sheppard.torfree.net [199.71.188.24]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with ESMTP id SAA09893 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 18:27:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by sheppard.torfree.net (Smail-3.2.0.97 1997-Aug-19 #9; 1998-Jan-28) (1447 bytes) via sendmail with /P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp id (sender ) for alloy@smoe.org; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 18:25:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 18:25:39 -0500 (EST) From: Keith Dawe Subject: Re: Alloy: Bad Lyrics To: alloy@smoe.org In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19980329231415.1c27f1b6@mail> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-alloy@smoe.org Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. Precedence: bulk - --IMA.Boundary.975442198-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:31:25 -0500 From: Beth Meyer Subject: Alloy: Potato chips (or "crisps," for the non-U.S. members) Hi, folks; Robyn asked: >>why don't we have any Zapp's Cajun Craw-Taters potato chips in this house?") > > These sound interesting...what do they taste like? > To quote from the flavor descriptions on the Zapp's web site: "The taste of a Cajun boiled seafood feast that goes crunch and your mouth goes wow." They have a really spicy, red pepper-y taste -- the seafood taste is not that noticeable, but the Cajun taste certainly is. I love 'em, though I don't eat potato chips very often at all -- I would get really fat if I indulged my weakness more often. But I do indeed have a serious weakness for interesting flavors of potato chips (crisps). Zapp's Cajun Craw-tators are about the most interesting flavor you can get in the U.S. -- other than that, we're pretty much limited to barbecue, onion, and if you're lucky, salt & vinegar. However, on the couple of trips I've taken to the U.K., I've gone totally bananas. Robin's food obsession from her trip was Sherbert Fountains; mine from my stay there in 1984 was prawn (shrimp) flavor crisps. When Mark and I spent a week in the U.K. in 1993, we spent a few days driving to York and the Lake Country. In between, we stopped at a BP for gas. I went in to pay, and found a big display of lots of open boxes, each containing a different flavor of little bags of crisps. I went nuts, grabbing a bag from just about every box in the display. I then went carefully to the counter with this huge armload of bags of crisps, much to the amusement of the guy behind the register. (I think he just smiled and asked, "Hungry?") From that point forward on the trip, I ate at least one different flavor per day ("Let's see, today do I feel more like 'roast beef & mustard' or 'bacon & tomato?'") But of course, I am now veering WAY off-topic -- must be that extra time on my hands. :-) I've racked my brains to think of a Dolby connection, but could only come up with this: * I wonder if it would be possible to work a mention of "Zapp's Cajun Craw-tators" into a performance of "I Love You Goodbye?" Seems like it would fit with the New Orleans bowling alley on Friday morning... * Anyone know what TMDR's favorite potato chip flavor is? Anyway, forget the tofu dog -- I'm off to find the aforementioned Cajun treats, even if I do blow up like a balloon.... Cheers, Beth - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Beth Meyer School of Psychology Pager: +1-404-866-1362 Georgia Institute of Technology FAX: +1-404-894-8905 274 5th St. gt9020a@prism.gatech.edu -or- Atlanta, GA 30332-0170 bmeyer@psy.psych.gatech.edu http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gt9020a/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:35:54 -0600 From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Potato chips (or "crisps," for the non-U.S. membe - --IMA.Boundary.793872198 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Hello all I was born in York - nice town, too Here in France, the only flavored crisps (chips) you can buy are from Marks & Sparks - everywhere else you find these plain chips with no flavour but are full of grease. Everytime we go back to the UK in the car we return with a 48 pack box of Seabrooks, surely the finest crisp ever invented, sometimes a multi-pack of Tescos or Sainsburys' specials, or even those mega-thick & well varied flavor-wise Brannigans (chuffin' expensive, but worth it). Seems to me that the UK is a veritable oasis of the potato chip / potato crisp. MTCBWY and your Walkers, John PS My girlfriend hates flavored chips, but is content to eat chips that are soggy, non-crispy, greasy and with no flavour whatsoever. She also likes the music of Jean-Jacques Goldman. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Alloy: Potato chips (or "crisps," for the non-U.S. members) Author: Beth Meyer at Internet Date: 30/03/98 08:31 Hi, folks; Robyn asked: >>why don't we have any Zapp's Cajun Craw-Taters potato chips in this house?") > > These sound interesting...what do they taste like? > . < When Mark and I spent a week in the U.K. in 1993, we spent a few days driving to York and the Lake Country. > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Beth Meyer School of Psychology Pager: +1-404-866-1362 Georgia Institute of Technology FAX: +1-404-894-8905 274 5th St. gt9020a@prism.gatech.edu -or- Atlanta, GA 30332-0170 bmeyer@psy.psych.gatech.edu http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gt9020a/ - --IMA.Boundary.793872198 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from ns1.baxter.com (159.198.180.56) by ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 0038B40B; Mon, 30 Mar 98 07:39:03 - -0600 Received: from siren.shore.net (siren.shore.net [207.244.124.5]) by ns1.baxter.com (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id HAA28789 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 07:52:58 - -0600 (CST) Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] (root) by siren.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) id 0yJezo-00074G-00; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:53:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id IAA17847; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:48:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:48:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id IAA17778 for alloy-outgoing; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:43:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from anvil.gatech.edu (gt9020a@anvil.gatech.edu [130.207.165.41]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with ESMTP id IAA17768 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:43:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gt9020a@localhost) by anvil.gatech.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA17282; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:40:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980330083125.0073812c@pop.prism.gatech.edu> X-Sender: gt9020a@pop.prism.gatech.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:31:25 -0500 To: alloy@smoe.org From: Beth Meyer Subject: Alloy: Potato chips (or "crisps," for the non-U.S. members) In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.3.32.19980326082421.00732a00@pop.prism.gatech.edu> <19980326.000314.9438.8.dalexander@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-alloy@smoe.org Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. Precedence: bulk - --IMA.Boundary.793872198-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 13:39:43 -0800 From: Turquoise Dolphin Subject: Alloy: Re: Potato Chips... I suppose I'm contributing to the general offtopicedness by continuing to talk potato chips, but.. Ahwell. ;) We definitly don't have the variety of chips in the States that there seem to be in the UK. My personal favorites at the moment are Sour Cream and Onion/Chives, and Sour Cream and Cheddar, which is really quite good. ;) There, I've said my two cents worth about chips now. ;) - - Turq. - - "Trains collide on a regular basis, stars explode, and thank the gods, potato chips usually don't.." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 14:05:06 -0800 From: Robyn Moore Subject: Re: Alloy: Potato chips (or "crisps," for the non-U.S. members) At 08:31 AM 3/30/98 -0500, you wrote: > >Hi, folks; They have a really spicy, red pepper-y taste -- the seafood taste is not >that noticeable, but the Cajun taste certainly is. I love 'em, though I >don't eat potato chips very often at all -- I would get really fat if I >indulged my weakness more often. > They sound good, but more my husband's speed than mine...my appreciation of hot extends more in the Asian direction. (although I admit to not having much opportunity for Cajun) >But I do indeed have a serious weakness for interesting flavors of potato >chips (crisps). Zapp's Cajun Craw-tators are about the most interesting >flavor you can get in the U.S. -- other than that, we're pretty much >limited to barbecue, onion, and if you're lucky, salt & vinegar. However, >on the couple of trips I've taken to the U.K., I've gone totally bananas. >Robin's food obsession from her trip was Sherbert Fountains; mine from my >stay there in 1984 was prawn (shrimp) flavor crisps. Kettle Chips has some interesting variations....jalepeno jack, salsa with mesquite, honey dijon. (website is http://www.kettlechips.com ) They're made here in Oregon, so I see them all over the place, but they must be distributed around the country to some extent because I've seen mention of them a couple times here. :) I see prawn flavour crisps at some of the asian groceries around town, but haven't seen much from the UK. Most of the stores of that type I've been to locally seem to specialize more in sweets. There're a couple I haven't been to yet though, so there's still some hope. > >When Mark and I spent a week in the U.K. in 1993, we spent a few days >driving to York and the Lake Country. In between, we stopped at a BP for >gas. I went in to pay, and found a big display of lots of open boxes, each >containing a different flavor of little bags of crisps. I went nuts, >grabbing a bag from just about every box in the display. I then went >carefully to the counter with this huge armload of bags of crisps, much to >the amusement of the guy behind the register. (I think he just smiled and >asked, "Hungry?") From that point forward on the trip, I ate at least one >different flavor per day ("Let's see, today do I feel more like 'roast beef >& mustard' or 'bacon & tomato?'") Oooo...I'm jealous. For some reason, meat flavoured crisps don't sell here in the states. I remember over the last few years a couple companies have tried - both Doritos and Fritos at different times marketed a 'grilled steak' sort of flavour, which I liked quite a lot, but they were taken off the market. :( This message powered by Jamiroquai's 'Use the Force 4 Everyday' Robyn @ Robyn Moore @ http://www.alveus.com/kbrm/robyn.html @ You knew the job was dangerous when you took it. - S.C. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 00:01:02 +0100 (BST) From: IT Admin - Govt Office North West Subject: Re: Alloy: Bad Lyrics At 18:25 29/03/98 -0500, Omega wrote: > > > Oh, okay then, if you put it that way...but it's rather mundane, >really. The song is known as 'On Horseback', the fan-named finale on >Ommadawn (so this 'song' really doesn't have a name). The silly lyric >is (well, the whole song is silly, actually) 'Some make chaos (cars) and >others, toys.' American fans tend to hear 'cars' while Europeans hear >'chaos'. Unfortunately, neither choice is more sensible than the other >in the context of the song so it's not obvious which it is. > Well, I did say it wasn't very interesting! :) > Hey, and away we go ...... I don't think I can remember ANY of the lyrics of that track except the chorus. I don't have that album, and the only friend of mine who had it has moved to other shores, so I don't know when I'll be able to check it out. >> >own of the 'Xcuse me while I kiss this guy' Jimi hendrix variety. :) >> Yeah, well, what's wrong with THAT lyric? > > Nothing; I like it better than 'kiss the sky'. ;-) > Kiss the sky? KISS THE SKY?!!?!!?? Don't be rediculous. And may I remind you all once and for all that it's 'Niggers steaming in the chilly air of the morning.' It's obviously set on an old cotton plantation. Baws Slarvi ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 00:01:04 +0100 (BST) From: IT Admin - Govt Office North West Subject: Re: Alloy: AS/400 program bugs & ILE dumps At 09:56 30/03/98 -0600, John wrote: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Content-Description: cc:Mail note part > > Hello all... > > anyone who subscribes to a "Mike Oldfield" lists deserves abuse > anyway, but to receive abuse over one word like that is SAD SAD and > even SADDER !!! > Oooh, er, hang on a mo while I get me asbestos undies on. I feel a flame war coming on. Like him or not, (Mike, not John) he's the perpetrator of a classic album which will be remembered for yonks, if not longer. > Chaos / Cars... lordy, that's sad. The day this list drops to that > crass level is the day I'm off it. Now the Clashs' "Rock the Casbah / > F**k the Casbah" might cause controversy... > At least you can tell what he's singing about most of the time. I deplore these nimnos who mumble theit way through their songs. > Twisted lyrics.. perhaps "Puppet Master" might provide a few... > > "Some more porn for the Muppet Pastor" etc etc > Dog dammit, I STILL haven't herad the blasted thing. > MTCBWY & your digital lawnmower > Hey, you've been peeking in my shed. Slarv ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 00:01:07 +0100 (BST) From: IT Admin - Govt Office North West Subject: Re: Alloy: Potato chips (or "crisps," for the non-U.S. members) At 08:31 30/03/98 -0500, Beth wrote: > > However, >on the couple of trips I've taken to the U.K., I've gone totally bananas. >Robin's food obsession from her trip was Sherbert Fountains; mine from my >stay there in 1984 was prawn (shrimp) flavor crisps. > >When Mark and I spent a week in the U.K. in 1993, we spent a few days >driving to York and the Lake Country. In between, we stopped at a BP for >gas. I went in to pay, and found a big display of lots of open boxes, each >containing a different flavor of little bags of crisps. I went nuts, >grabbing a bag from just about every box in the display. I then went >carefully to the counter with this huge armload of bags of crisps, much to >the amusement of the guy behind the register. (I think he just smiled and >asked, "Hungry?") From that point forward on the trip, I ate at least one >different flavor per day ("Let's see, today do I feel more like 'roast beef >& mustard' or 'bacon & tomato?'") > Oh, we can do MUCH better than that, or used to be able to anyway. Did you not see Hedgehog flavour during your peregrinations? The company swore it was a genuine flavour, but never having tasted a real one I can't confirm this is true. Yes, we have some bazzing varieties, and some superb manufacturers, some of the best being the smaller companies. Smiths, Golden Wonder and Walkers were always the biggies, but Quentins and the inimitable Seabrooks are just two excellent examples of the art, not forgetting Brannigans Roast Beef and Mustard flavour (they dog damn bite you back). There are many others, but I just can't remember them all. But when I really want to treat myself, I ask Mrs Slarvibarglhee to get my a bumper bag of Jelapino Pepper Kettle Chips. V e r y expensive, v e r y much worth it. Slarv ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 18:12:36 EST From: RThurF Subject: Re: Alloy: Strange snack foods In a message dated 98-03-30 08:57:40 EST, Beth wrote: << Zapp's Cajun Craw-tators are about the most interesting flavor you can get in the U.S. -- other than that, we're pretty much limited to barbecue, onion, and if you're lucky, salt & vinegar. >> Dave heard that in Australia they have musk flavored Life Savors (those USUALLY fruit or mint flavored candies with a hole in the center... maybe they have a different name in other Alloy-member countries..?) Robin! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:37:48 +-1000 From: John Schofield Subject: RE: Alloy: Strange snack foods Robin spoke thus: >Dave heard that in Australia they have musk flavored Life Savors (those >USUALLY fruit or mint flavored candies with a hole in the center... maybe they >have a different name in other Alloy-member countries..?) T'is true - we do. Also we call our crisps 'chips' as well. AND in certain stores WE can still get those sherbet thingies with the liquorice stick in them (a big favourite of a fellow Alloyite I recall). John (john@police.tas.gov.au) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:11:13 +0300 From: Ulfstedt Louise Subject: RE: Alloy: Strange snack foods All this talk of crisps and chips is getting me peckish. Up here on the periphery of europe, they have this annoying habit of selling crisps in big bags ONLY. You can't get the smaller size of crisps that we have in the UK at all :-( They also taste naff. The only flavour I like up here are some locally made ones that are sour cream and dill flavoured (YUM) but it's hard living in a country where people not only shy away from most forms of spicyfood, (hence no Salt and Vinegar, and very mild nachos,...) but where there are NO Prawn Cocktail, Cheese and Onion or even Woscester Sauce flavoured crisps at all! (sniff). Slarv, do Smiths still make those plain crisps over there that used to come with a little blue bag of salt in the bag so you could add only as much salt as you wanted? I Used to love those, though I once got a bag that had NINE bags of salt in it, of which I was, of course, inordinately proud of at school,... :-) Lissu xxxx > -----Original Message----- > From: John Schofield [SMTP:john@police.tas.gov.au] > Sent: 31 March 1998 12:38 > To: 'Alloy' > Subject: RE: Alloy: Strange snack foods > > > > Robin spoke thus: > > >Dave heard that in Australia they have musk flavored Life Savors > (those > >USUALLY fruit or mint flavored candies with a hole in the center... > maybe > they > >have a different name in other Alloy-member countries..?) > > T'is true - we do. Also we call our crisps 'chips' as well. > > AND in certain stores WE can still get those sherbet thingies with the > > liquorice stick in them (a big favourite of a fellow Alloyite I > recall). > > John > (john@police.tas.gov.au) > > > ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V3 #86 **************************