From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V3 #64 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Monday, March 9 1998 Volume 03 : Number 064 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: TMDR TV ALERT! ["Stephen M. Tilson" ] Re: Alloy: TMDR TV ALERT! MUST READ! [Keith Stansell ] re: Musicians of Alloy: Erik [Erik Habbinga ] RE: Alloy: Silence broken [IT Admin - Govt Office North West ] Re: Alloy: Silence broken ["Charles E. Kemp" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 04:14:28 -0500 From: "Stephen M. Tilson" Subject: Alloy: TMDR TV ALERT! Hi Phil, Thanks for noticing. Here in the North Bay we get VH1 from 4AM to 4PM. Here's hoping . . . /\/\iles ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 12:35:21 EST From: RThurF Subject: Re: Alloy: TMDR TV ALERT! In a message dated 98-03-08 00:53:00 EST, p.louie write: << I'm coming out of lurking to say that the VH1 quiz show called "My Generation" will be shown all day tomorrow (Sunday, March 8) on VH1. Thomas said in The Tap Room that he was in one episode of a VH1 quiz show with Michael Sembello. I guess this is it. >> Hmmm. Do you mean that the same episode of this quiz show is going to be played repeatedly throughout the day? Or different ones? Is there any way of knowing who will be on which episode (do the guide listings give this information or do they just give the show's title & time) We're getting hooked up for cable tomorrow, as it so happens (Monday, March 9th) so if Sunday the 8th is when they run the one with him on it looks like I'll STILL miss out in spite of all my best efforts. The whole point was that I *hate* having to ask people to make copies of stuff for me & I wanted to get it for myself. :( Robin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 12:30:01 -0700 From: Keith Stansell Subject: Re: Alloy: TMDR TV ALERT! MUST READ! Good detective work. It looks like it has already started (12:30 MST), I hope I haven't missed TMDR's show. I'm sure like all things MTV and VH1, it will be repeated over and over again. - -- Keith Stansell Denver, CO __________________________________________________ http://www.concentric.net/~kasman ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 15:44:58 -0700 From: Erik Habbinga Subject: re: Musicians of Alloy: Erik > Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 13:52:45 -0500 > From: "Stephen M. Tilson" > Subject: Musicians of Alloy: Erik > > > I'm still here, but rarely have time to read an entire issue of > > the Alloy digest, let alone respond to any messages. > > Well, it would surely be nice to hear more from you, Erik. > I just haven't had anything to contribute. I do think I'm one of the few who have seen TMDR in concert. In fact, it was my first ever concert, back somewhere in 83/84 on the TFE tour. I didn't go see AAMB, because it was the night of my high school graduation, and he was playing a 21 + over club 90 miles away. Bummer. I remember very little from the TFE tour, just the monocle video screens, the Fairlight computer screen, the "Dueling" TMDR's during the Hyperactive trombone solo, and the backflip off the drum riser during the encore. I really wish I knew how good Matt Seligman was when I saw the show, though I hadn't picked up the bass yet at that time. > Rather, those of us who have AAMBC know what a fine arrangement and > performance of "Weightless" you rendered for us. Those guitars are sweet > sweet sweet! I, for one, am hoping you'll grace us with your talents once > again this year. And perhaps, if you really aren't happy with your vocals, > one of the fine-voiced Alloyites around here could do vocal tracks for you. > > I forget, did you use ADAT for your project last year? That would make it > easy . . . (er). > Thanks for the compliment on the guitars! I thought they were great as well, if I'm allowed to be so un-humble. That's why I really don't like the vocals, which sounded bad being put on top of the marvelous guitars. I haven't really considered contributing to this years tape yet, but might consider it. If Crackers could post the Dibbs again (I know he just did it recently, but I don't have that email anymore), I'd sure appreciate it. > Cheers, > /\/\iles > Erik ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 00:30:08 GMT From: IT Admin - Govt Office North West Subject: RE: Alloy: Silence broken At 17:12 05/03/98 +-1100, John the poleeseman wrote: > > >ru.... ru....... ruu....... ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuttttthhhhhhhhhhhh (driving >the porcelain bus again - hope that isn't just an quaint aussie >colloquialism - you get the idea). > Ain't heard of driving the porcelain bus, but I do know about talking to god on the big white telephone. And/or chundering. Slarv (This message powered by John Farnham 'You're the voice.') ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 00:30:17 GMT From: IT Admin - Govt Office North West Subject: Re: Alloy: Slarv's music At 20:47 06/03/98 -0800, E(lipse wrote: > >As a side note, "Never Too Late" is the name of an inspirational book by >John Holt (blessed visionary pioneer of the modern home/unschooling >movement), an autobiographical work about teaching himself to play music >when he was I think in his '40s or later... (I haven't actually read it, >but I've wanted to for a while, and figured it was relevant enough that >I should mention it) > Thanks for the tip. I'll keep an eye open for it. Slarv (This message still powered by Mark King. [It's a long track, you see] ). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 00:30:11 GMT From: IT Admin - Govt Office North West Subject: Alloy: Re: Re[2]: French music is cack. At 08:50 05/03/98 -0600, John Hanson wrote: > > You've started me off now, here goes JH on one of his tirades > against.... > > > ...if you think that UK kids are culturely impoverished, you should > try watching French TV and listening to French radio, mate. After an > earful of the shit that purports to be "populist entertainment" of > TF1... > You could say the same thing about much of English mainstream radio, I think. I don't listen to it any more, because most of it's the same old top 20 crap, which is not truly representative of the range of music that's available. The really good stuff is played at obscure hours, sometimes on obscure stations. The likes of John Peel and Mike Radcliffe play good stuff, when they're on, but the BBC had to take Mike's night-time show off and move him to the breakfast show, which was not the right slot for him. Presumably this is why he only lasted a few months. > Eddy Mitchell is old enough to be my Dad; Johnny Halliday ditto; all > the others are poor imitations of the blandest of UK / US pop.. > Jean-Jacques Goldman, Cabrel, Souchon etc etc. > Johnny Halliday??? LOL, I thought he was DEAD a long time ago. Please accept my condolences that he's still around. Slarv (This message powered by John Martyn 'Cooltide.' ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 00:30:05 GMT From: IT Admin - Govt Office North West Subject: Re: Alloy: RE: Gice Spirls and the nature of the catastrophe At 14:09 05/03/98 +-1100, John the poleeseman wrote: > >I new the subject would get your attention ! > >I agree unreservedly with Slarv in his 'toggling old fart rambling mode' >(hey Slarv don't you mean 'toddling'?). > I know what I mean ...... I think. I only toddle when I've imbibed a few frosty tubes. . But it was not until late high school that I discovered >'alternative' music (which in this case was anything not played on >commercial radio). As part of a trial music corriculum, a non-music >teacher (he actually taught physical education) was brought in to introduce >us to something quite different. He started the very first lesson without >saying a word playing Pink Floyd's Meddle (quite loudly as I remember it). > This was the 20 minute intrumental side 2 bit. Nobody knew what to say - >it was so ... so... wonderfully weird. Anyway in coming weeks he played >all sorts of really cool stuff like King Crimson, Jethro Tull, Mike >Oldfield, Steeleye Span, Bowie and so on. I hope you told him, at some point, that he'd opened your eyes to new possibilities. These kind of teachers should be encouraged on all possible occasions; there are too few of them around and they can become discouraged if no one expresses their appreciation. Slarv (This message powered by Seven Stills 'Love the one you're with.') ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 00:30:14 GMT From: IT Admin - Govt Office North West Subject: Re: Alloy: Slarv's music At 18:18 06/03/98 EST, Robin wrote: > > > But if you have a good ear you don't really need to know what the dots say, unless >you plan to play in a quartet, like I do...someday:( Do you have a piano or >keyboard Slarvi? I didn't see one in that living room of yours during my dream >about you, but it might have been over in the corner... :) > I have a digital piano, which we bought for my daughter a few years back, when she was having piano lessons. She gave up the lessons, but I wouldn't let her sell the keyboard because I intended to start learing it myself. Well, I DID start, but lost momentum again, so it's back on top of the wardrobe in my bedrrom, which is why you didn't see it in the living room. >All you really need to take up any discipline as an adult is a decent sense of >humor & the ability to be patient with yourself. The ability to say "I SUCK AT >THIS!!" with perverse glee, and keep trying anyway even if it means years of >plodding along at rudimentary levels. Think of me squinting at all the dots & >lines from behind my cello and go for it Slarvi!! > I think patience is the problem, and time enough to practice. I MUST be more strict with myself and try to do a little every day. I long for the day when I can just plug a skill chip into an interface behind my ear and instantly become a virtuoso. Perhaps Thomas could start work on this if the Beatnik project becomes uninteresting. Slarv (This message powered by Mark King 'Influences.') P.S. If I think of you behid that cello I don't think I'll be able to concentrate on the dots for very long. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 19:58:58 EST From: RThurF Subject: Alloy: spacey census entry This is totally incoherent & I swear I can't make it sound any better than this. Take a deep breath, and we'll begin: Robin's Favorite Album: The cd case hinges are all falling apart equally from me opening them so much so I don't think I have a favorite. Thomas' music cd's are like photo albums, diary entries, scrapbooks etc. that I love to indulge myself in. Robin's Favorite Song: first of all, I don't think I react to music the same way as most of the general public seems to, so try not to make fun of me when you hear how strange I'm about to sound :( I'm really very passionate about the music I love. When I get a new album I typically just pick out a few of the tracks and listen only to those; then later I expand this to include more tracks and so on until I do know the whole album. I don't do this deliberately, it's just the way I've always done it since I was little without even thinking. It takes me a while to take them all in I guess, and I really like to listen to them as individuals. Some of Thomas' songs are like a pure wild adrenaline rush, while others make me feel like I'm being slowly and lovingly eviscerated by a smiling man with an apple corer (this graphic yet accurate imagery is brought to you by I Live in a Suitcase, thank you so much Thomas. Ouch.) Then there are the songs that radiate with incredible happiness & fun, and those which evoke a sense of mystery, some that are quiet & tender, some which make me feel homesick for something I can't quite identify... They're all wonderful & please don't make me name a favorite because I want them all! told you I was weird. Robin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 17:09:00 -0800 (PST) From: "Charles E. Kemp" Subject: Re: Alloy: Silence broken > At 17:12 05/03/98 +-1100, John the poleeseman wrote: > > > >ru.... ru....... ruu....... ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuttttthhhhhhhhhhhh (driving > >the porcelain bus again - hope that isn't just an quaint aussie > >colloquialism - you get the idea). > > > > Ain't heard of driving the porcelain bus, but I do know about talking to god > on the big white telephone. > And/or chundering. > > Slarv My reworking of the same theme is not presentable to a family oriented mailing list. This message powered by potential heartbreak and "Bell Bottom Blues" ****** Charles E. Kemp ****** cekemp@netcom.com ****** (812) 597-5950 ****** Just for the sake of it make sure you're always frowning, it shows the world that you've got substance and depth. - Neil Tennant ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V3 #64 **************************