From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V3 #54 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Friday, February 27 1998 Volume 03 : Number 054 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: Thomas Dolby live 1984 [Brian Clayton ] Alloy: Project B-Day DIBBS! [Chris Cracknell ] Alloy: Digital Lawnmowers and Compression Testers [John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@] Alloy: Thomas Dolby/Puppet Theatre [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Happy birthday, Slarv! [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Thomas Dolby/Puppet Theatre [Beth Meyer ] Alloy: Nick Cave's artistic "merit" [RThurF ] RE: Alloy: Byrralku Dhangudha & Gort stuff [John Schofield ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 22:55:21 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Clayton Subject: Re: Alloy: Thomas Dolby live 1984 On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, IT Admin - Govt Office North West wrote: > > Hello everyone.. > > > > Thomas Dolby recorded a concert for the BBC which was broadcast in > > 1984, around March / April / May time... does anyone out there have a > > decent quality recording of this ? I believe the tracks include White > > City / Dissidents / New Toy / Puppet Theatre / Submarines / Airwaves / > > Hyperactive / Europa / Scare / Science among others. I wish I had a tape of it! Maybe the BBC will release it someday, like the Beatles and Led Zepplin sessions... > Shazbat! Another couple of tracks I've never heard i.e. New Toy and Puppet > Theatre. Were these B sides or something? New Toy was a song written for Lene Lovich. It can also be found on the Live Wireless concert tape. Puppet Theatre was a B-side to the I Scare Myself 12", and can also be found on one of the Silk Pyjamas CD singles. In fact, I finally acquired the two Silk Pyjamas CD singles this week, as well as the My Brain Is Like A Sieve 12". After almost ten years, I have now heard the B-side, Ravivar Fiore...and it's left me with more questions than answers! BC - --- Brian Clayton | This block is | stemish@kumr.lns.com | not valid postage | ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 02:03:39 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Alloy: Project B-Day DIBBS! Here are the latest round of DIBBS Don't forget too that in addition to a Dolby cover you may also submit an original tune for the B-Side of the tape. So send me your DIBBS for Project B-Day ][. As well, I'm taking title suggestions for this year's album (to be voted on later). Crackers - Hot Sauce Keith Stansell - Wreck of the Fairchild Jose Gomez - Puppet Theatre Miles - The Flat Earth The Copse - One Of Our Submarines Lee Jackson - Dissidents JAMac - Beauty Of A Dream Croydon - Valley Of The Mind's Eye Electrix - Hyperactive Ian Gifford - Europa And The Pirate Twins Lissu - I Love You, Goodbye Europa - Don't Turn Away CRACKERS (DIBBS clamps from hell!!!!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 09:20:47 -0600 From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com Subject: Alloy: Digital Lawnmowers and Compression Testers Ce que je voudrais vous présenter, Messieurs et Dames, regardez bien, je vous en prie... Hello everyone... thanks for the thirteen cc:Mails I received this morning. A bit more on New Toy... the live version on the BBC concert is exceptional... in the middle TMDR stops, then introduces his computer, at this time I believe it was called Henry. Apparently, when asked, TMDR used to reply that it speaks Australian as a language, and Henry adds, in an Aussie accent, "G'day" "Pass the snags, mate" "switch on the cricket". TMDRs' version is 1,000,000 times better than Lovichs'. As for Puppet Theatre, the live version is better than the single... a bit quicker, perhaps, then in the middle bit, after a bit of doo doo doo's, he says "around about this point in the evening, it's time I introduced my band"... he does, to one another.. moderately amusing, much copied since. May the Cube be with you all.. John HANSON, the Artist Formerly Known as the Red Shadow. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 07:37:31 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Alloy: Thomas Dolby/Puppet Theatre In a message dated 98-02-26 01:35:23 EST, Beth wrote: << I actually have Puppet Theatre, but on vinyl, of course. It was on the "Blinded by Science" EP. >> The only way I know "Puppet Theatre" is thanks to this show called "Rock Over London" that an upstate NY radio station played every Sunday night when I was in high school. I used to do everything I could to be home poised at the 'record' button on the allotted night. I believe they even interviewed Thomas (but after moving around twelve million times I've lost those tapes for good :( The show's host was Graham Dean. Anyone else remember this, or have it? Robin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 07:45:59 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Happy birthday, Slarv! HAPPY BIRTHDAY SLARVI!!!!! I hope you had a wonderful day!!! The onnly way I can possibly keep birthdays straight is by knowing people's astrological signs. With my brother & many sisters there was no other way & it turned out to be a good mnemonic device for me. I have two Pisces, one Cancer, a Libra, two Saggitarius and another Gemini besides myself. So what are you Slarv? And if everyone else can fess up, I'll never forget you. For instance, without even looking at my calendar I know Suzanne's birthday is coming up soon (getting my cupcake tower ready!!) Robin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 08:04:09 -0500 From: Beth Meyer Subject: Re: Alloy: Thomas Dolby/Puppet Theatre Hi, folks; The lovely and talented Robin wrote: >The only way I know "Puppet Theatre" is thanks to this show called "Rock Over >London" that an upstate NY radio station played every Sunday night when I was >in high school. I used to do everything I could to be home poised at the >'record' button on the allotted night. I believe they even interviewed Thomas >(but after moving around twelve million times I've lost those tapes for good >:( The show's host was Graham Dean. Anyone else remember this, or have it? Well, none of my local radio stations played this show in the eighties, to my knowledge. :-( I probably would have been addicted to it if they had. However, get this -- it's still on the air, and NOW it's playing in Atlanta every Sunday night at 9:00. You can see for yourself on this page of the WNNX-FM (99X) web site: http://www.com/99x/rockoverlondon.html Unfortunately, they don't list the host, but I *think* it's still Graham Dean. I've only caught bits of it a couple of times (I'm not normally listening to the radio on Sunday night). I don't suppose we can expect any more TMDR interviews though, unless they change their name to "Rock over San Mateo" :-) Cheers, Beth - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Beth Meyer School of Psychology Pager: +1-404-866-1362 Georgia Institute of Technology FAX: +1-404-894-8905 274 5th St. gt9020a@prism.gatech.edu -or- Atlanta, GA 30332-0170 bmeyer@psy.psych.gatech.edu http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gt9020a/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 14:10:02 -0600 From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com Subject: Alloy: Puppet Theatre ... if I remember rightly, Puppet Theatre was "sampled" for a rap record round about 1993/4. If anyone knows by who and anything about this I will be amazed / interested to know. MTCBWY John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 13:58:48 -0600 From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com Subject: Alloy: She lifts up her cupcakes and puts on her jumper... Hello all... the line above is taken from a Squeeze song, "Piccadilly". Perhaps there is a difference in meaning between the US & UK versions of "cupcake". My birthday is July 3rd - I am exactly the same age as Tom Cruise same day/month/year. May the Cube be with you, John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 16:48:10 -0600 From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Project B-Day DIBBS! - --IMA.Boundary.523905888 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Hello sorry, I appeared to have missed something.... what's the story (morning glory) ? MTCBWY John ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Alloy: Project B-Day DIBBS! Author: Chris Cracknell at Internet Date: 26/02/98 02:03 Here are the latest round of DIBBS Don't forget too that in addition to a Dolby cover you may also submit an original tune for the B-Side of the tape. So send me your DIBBS for Project B-Day ][. As well, I'm taking title suggestions for this year's album (to be voted on later). Crackers - Hot Sauce Keith Stansell - Wreck of the Fairchild Jose Gomez - Puppet Theatre Miles - The Flat Earth The Copse - One Of Our Submarines Lee Jackson - Dissidents JAMac - Beauty Of A Dream Croydon - Valley Of The Mind's Eye Electrix - Hyperactive Ian Gifford - Europa And The Pirate Twins Lissu - I Love You, Goodbye Europa - Don't Turn Away CRACKERS (DIBBS clamps from hell!!!!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= - --IMA.Boundary.523905888 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from ns1.baxter.com (159.198.180.56) by ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 0032CBD2; Thu, 26 Feb 98 01:07:09 - -0600 Received: from smoe.org (root@smoe.org [204.167.97.154]) by ns1.baxter.com (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id BAA18742 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 01:20:28 - -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id CAA09148; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 02:10:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Thu, 26 Feb 1998 02:10:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id CAA09117 for alloy-outgoing; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 02:10:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from hwcn.org (ad329@james.hwcn.org [199.212.94.66]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with ESMTP id CAA09107 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 02:10:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from ad329@localhost) by hwcn.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA12559; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 02:03:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 02:03:39 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Cracknell Message-Id: <199802260703.CAA12559@hwcn.org> To: alloy@smoe.org, ocayasso@pepperdine.edu, igifford@hotmail.com Subject: Alloy: Project B-Day DIBBS! Sender: owner-alloy@smoe.org Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. Precedence: bulk - --IMA.Boundary.523905888-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 17:58:03 EST From: RThurF Subject: Re: Alloy: She lifts up her cupcakes and puts on her jumper... In a message dated 98-02-26 08:49:39 EST, John wrote: << My birthday is July 3rd - I am exactly the same age as Tom Cruise same day/month/year. >> Thank you ...you are now on file in my Strad pocket diary! You also share the same birthday as another friend of mine named John, who - like Tom Cruise - happens to be an actor. In fact if you hang around at the Cannes film festival this year you may even see him, representing the 5-minute short film he just starred in (he's the guy with the "I hope I get a theatrical agent out of this" look on his face) John, tell us about yourself! What do 'cupcakes' mean in Europe? Did I make a social error by using this phrase? Robin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 18:28:47 -0500 From: Beth Meyer Subject: Re: Alloy: She lifts up her cupcakes and puts on her jumper... Hi, John; > Hello all... the line above is taken from a Squeeze song, > "Piccadilly". Perhaps there is a difference in meaning between the US > & UK versions of "cupcake". Umm...obviously so. Here it's just a little mini-pastry. The thing is, when I put on a jumper, I don't have to lift up anything except maybe my arms, so I'm still confused as to what the cupcakes are and where they come in. Still, it can't be so bad as that "I TO SHAG" bumper sticker I saw... > My birthday is July 3rd - I am exactly the same age as Tom Cruise same > day/month/year. Well, John, if you are also exactly the same physique as Tom, I think several Alloy women will want to get to know you better ;-) Cheers, Beth - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Beth Meyer School of Psychology Pager: +1-404-866-1362 Georgia Institute of Technology FAX: +1-404-894-8905 274 5th St. gt9020a@prism.gatech.edu -or- Atlanta, GA 30332-0170 bmeyer@psy.psych.gatech.edu http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gt9020a/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 19:03:01 -0500 From: "Mary A. Brown" Subject: Alloy: Puppet Theatre The easily amazed John wrote: > ... if I remember rightly, Puppet Theatre was "sampled" for > a rap record round about 1993/4. If anyone knows by who and > anything about this I will be amazed / interested to know. If my interpretation of what TMDR says on "Live Wireless" and the release dates, Puppet Theater started as the song Magic's Wand recorded by the rappers Whodini. It's the same tune but different lyrics with writing credits to TMDR, Hutchens, and Rivas (members of Whodini and band). There's also an instrumental version called It's All In Mr. Magic's Wand credited to TMDR and Matthew Seligman. These were released as singles and on the eponymous LP by Whodini. They are kind of cheesy, I think, and I much prefer Puppet Theater. Oh, but I was going to shut up for awhile, wasn't I... Europa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 19:11:43 EST From: RThurF Subject: Alloy: Nick Cave's artistic "merit" In a message dated 98-02-26 01:03:36 EST, Slarvi writes: <> To be honest I have personally never given any thought to Nick Cave's 'endowment'! The male form in general can sometimes toy with us girls' capacity to reason (as you must know full well, Slarv you handsome devil you) - - but there's a strong chance that 'it' never occured to Kylie either. << Now English life is portrayed v e r y realistically on TV. ;-} We're divided into two or three categories, you know; Cheeky Cockneys a la 'Eastenders,' bloody daft northerners as portrayd in 'Coronation Street' or hard Geordies as seen in 'Spender'/'Auf Wiedersehen, Pet' ( I fall into the second category meself.) There are NO other types of Englanders, which means we must all be squashed into about 1% of the land mass. >> Is 'Auf Wiedersehen, Pet' that show that I really can't describe, but which I watched with K's mother one day & could NOT believe it was on television! Robin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 13:08:53 +-1100 From: John Schofield Subject: RE: Alloy: Byrralku Dhangudha & Gort stuff Paul wrote... >No, I understand what you mean though. I don't think we've got any >programs that show a real cross section of Australia (John? Help me out >here mate!) I really don't think any one show could sufficiently cover this Great Land of ours. We have everything from huge sandy deserts to steamy tropical rain forests to snow capped peaks to quiet green 'English' valleys. If you take a bit from all of the shows Paul mentioned you would still only be exposing the tip of the iceberg. >, but we do have some really good ones that show specific >bits: For country towns & outback, try Flying Doctors (a tad soapie), for >a really nice look at Sydney, try Police Rescue, Blue Sky, & Water Rats >(three /very/ good series BTW, so good at showing off Sydney they make me >want to move back there at times), for Brisbane, try Fire & Medivac. I reckon most of these shows are pretty reasonable - but I must say Water Rats is not at all like Babe Watch (was that Mary or Robin?) in fact it's a pretty bloody good show. PS: I liked that subtle reference to 'The Day the Earth Stood Still' - one of my favourite BW sci-fi classics. Regards, John (john@police.tas.gov.au) - powered by Jeff Buckley's Grace. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 21:28:43 EST From: RThurF Subject: Alloy: Everest NOVA special (non-TMDR!) I thought Alloy might like to be informed of the following piece of information...many people here are of the world-travelling, adventurous variety, and I kept thinking of Beth's vacation photos while I watched it...! The new NOVA special on Mt Everest was filmed by a very close personal friend of the people I work for named David Breashears - who is both an experienced technical mountain climber & filmmaker. The show centers around physical and cognitive tests taken at increasingly high altitudes and shows David and two other climbers as they try for the summit, testing at each level via radio contact. I've never thought about how really dangerous this sort of climb is, but this documentary is extremely convincing. David also helped a friend at work develop her interest in climbing over the years (she climbed Kilimanjaro last summer & I got to see all of her snapshots!) Anyway look for this edition of NOVA, it's really good! Robin ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V3 #54 **************************