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alloy-digest       Wednesday, February 11 1998       Volume 03 : Number 039



                               Today's Subjects:
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  Re: Alloy: something to do while flying  [Lem Bingley <lemb@computerwire.c]
  Alloy: Allez oops     ["Stephen M. Tilson" <Stephen_Tilson@compuserve.com>]
  Alloy: something to do while...  ["Stephen M. Tilson" <Stephen_Tilson@comp]
  Alloy: Flight Sim                     [Lem Bingley <lemb@computerwire.com>]
  Alloy: Le Shirt Est Arrivee!  [leacy@it-excelsior.britax.co.uk (Neil Leacy]
  Alloy: Flight Sim     ["Stephen M. Tilson" <Stephen_Tilson@compuserve.com>]
  Alloy: Le Shirt Est Arrivee!  ["Stephen M. Tilson" <Stephen_Tilson@compuse]
  Re: Alloy: Le Shirt Est Arrivee!       [Elaine Linstruth <elaine@QNET.COM>]
  Re: Alloy: Allez oops  [IT Admin - Govt Office North West <help.gonw.st@gt]
  Re: Alloy: Allez oops                                      [RThurF@aol.com]
  Alloy: RE: alloy-digest V3 #38  ["D'Arcy Jerome Salzmann" <darcy@salzmann.]

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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 09:45:28 +0000
From: Lem Bingley <lemb@computerwire.com>
Subject: Re: Alloy: something to do while flying

At 08:29 p.m. 9/2/98 -0500, Jeff wrote:
>I ended up
>spending almost 2 hours on the flight deck...


Pah! That's nothing. Virgin Atlantic let me take the controls and land a
747 at Hong Kong a couple of months ago -- and that was after one of the
engines had been shut down just to make it a bit more tricky for me.

Okay, so it *was* only a simulator...

L

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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 06:50:48 -0500
From: "Stephen M. Tilson" <Stephen_Tilson@compuserve.com>
Subject: Alloy: Allez oops

Robin replied to Slarvi:

 > NOW you're making me feel really guilty, just because I don't =

 > want to look freaky in front of all you good people, displaying =

 > my correspondences for all the world to see!!

Thug2:  Yeah!

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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 07:00:10 -0500
From: "Stephen M. Tilson" <Stephen_Tilson@compuserve.com>
Subject: Alloy: something to do while...

Lem canted:

 > Pah! That's nothing. Virgin Atlantic let me take the controls and =

 > land a 747 at Hong Kong a couple of months ago -- and that was =

 > after one of the engines had been shut down just to make it a bit =

 > more tricky for me.
 > =

 > Okay, so it *was* only a simulator...

For real?  <using his best California Valley-boy voice> Duuude!

How cool.
/\/\

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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 12:22:24 +0000
From: Lem Bingley <lemb@computerwire.com>
Subject: Alloy: Flight Sim

An Incredulous /\/\ asked:
>For real?  <using his best California Valley-boy voice> Duuude!
>
>How cool.

Way cool. Sometimes it is great to write about software for a living - I
got to play for an hour with a newly commissioned simulator used to train
Virgin's pilots, on the invitation of ICL, one of the companies involved in
the system integration. 

The simulator was amazingly convincing - you could feel the ripples of the
joints in the tarmac as you taxied out to the runway. And after an hour in
the cockpit you really started to believe that there was a whole fuselage
behind you.

Sadly the only thing you weren't allowed to do was crash the plane on
purpose - which I really wanted to do. The simulator isn't a video game and
it apparently takes a couple of hours to reset all the systems if you stuff
it. So I had an instructor in the co-pilot's seat ready to catch it all if
I screwed up. The spoilsport.

L

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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 13:35:02
From: leacy@it-excelsior.britax.co.uk (Neil Leacy)
Subject: Alloy: Le Shirt Est Arrivee!

To all involved congratulations on a job well done! I've not worn it 
'round town yet and will let you know what reaction it gets <g>. I'll 
sort out the monies from the UK and, all being well, will send it out at 
the beginning of next week. 

BTW - I know Slarv is one of the UK recipients. Who are the others, can 
you please let me know.

 

Regards, 

Neil Leacy
IT Support (nleacy@it-excelsior.britax.co.uk)

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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 14:31:08 -0500
From: "Stephen M. Tilson" <Stephen_Tilson@compuserve.com>
Subject: Alloy: Flight Sim

Our man in the (simulator) cockpit wrote:

 > The simulator was amazingly convincing - you could feel the =

 > ripples of the joints in the tarmac as you taxied out to the =

 > runway. And after an hour in the cockpit you really started to =

 > believe that there was a whole fuselage behind you.

This is, no doubt, one of those megabuck sims.  I am stunned and envious,=
 =

Sir!  Congratulations on a safe landing, by the way.

/\/\iles (the pilot)

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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 14:31:06 -0500
From: "Stephen M. Tilson" <Stephen_Tilson@compuserve.com>
Subject: Alloy: Le Shirt Est Arrivee!

Our Dear Mr. Leacy reports and requests:

 > To all involved congratulations on a job well done! I've not worn =

 > it 'round town yet and will let you know what reaction it gets =

 > <g>. I'll sort out the monies from the UK and, all being well, =

 > will send it out at the beginning of next week. =

 > =

 > BTW - I know Slarv is one of the UK recipients. Who are the =

 > others, can you please let me know.

That would be Lem Bingley and Tim Dunn, Neil.  Thank you for your generou=
s =

assistance!  =


/\/\iles

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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 11:57:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Elaine Linstruth <elaine@QNET.COM>
Subject: Re: Alloy: Le Shirt Est Arrivee!

Hey Neil, is this so that you all won't be caught wearing the same thing
at all the snappy social soirees?  ;)  (Just kidding, I know you're doing
the money-exchange thang)

- --
Elaine Linstruth <elaine@qnet.com>                     Palmdale, CA  (USA)

On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Stephen M. Tilson wrote:

> Our Dear Mr. Leacy reports and requests:
>  > 
>  > BTW - I know Slarv is one of the UK recipients. Who are the 
>  > others, can you please let me know.

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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 20:26:59 GMT
From: IT Admin - Govt Office North West <help.gonw.st@gtnet.gov.uk>
Subject: Re: Alloy: Allez oops

At 06:50 10/02/98 -0500, Miles wrote:
>Robin replied to Slarvi:
>
> > NOW you're making me feel really guilty, just because I don't 
> > want to look freaky in front of all you good people, displaying 
> > my correspondences for all the world to see!!
>
>Thug2:  Yeah!
>
>
But ..... but ..... but..... Robin, you aroused my curiosity with your
original message.  You must have known ONE of us would rise to the bait.
However, if it's of a personal and embarrassing nature .......... WE WANT TO
KNOW ALL THE MORE.

Only kidding, honest engine. If you prefer not to disclose, don't you do it,
and don't let that naughty Mr Crackers persuade you otherwise.

Mr N. Otatallcuriousreally.

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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 19:21:26 EST
From: RThurF@aol.com
Subject: Re: Alloy: Allez oops

In a message dated 98-02-10 16:13:42 EST, Slarvi writes:

<< But ..... but ..... but..... Robin, you aroused my curiosity with your
 original message.  You must have known ONE of us would rise to the bait.
 However, if it's of a personal and embarrassing nature .......... WE WANT TO
 KNOW ALL THE MORE.
 >>

*whine* 
oh Slarvi...since you're SO insistent...I'll be sure to make a special chapter
about it in my memoirs (which should be released in about 2058) dedicated to
you. I'll send you an autographed copy and everything! There, aren't you
lucky?

Robin Otatallcruel

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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 22:38:43 -0500
From: "D'Arcy Jerome Salzmann" <darcy@salzmann.com>
Subject: Alloy: RE: alloy-digest V3 #38

Hey,

I've flown a lot over the few years, and I've always been allowed into the 
cockpit, though usually when the plane is "on-top," meaning that they have 
reached their cruising altitude. There are certain exceptions to this, 
including Air Canada and Cathy Pacific, which have both let me land with 
them. I have yet to do rotation in a heavy [big plane], when the plane 
takes off. I once spent a few months trying to get my pilot's license but 
ran out of money. Not a project suited to a high school income.

w.r.t  your comments on the stuff you get, it usually depends on a few 
factors. If you are flying somewhere overnight and internationally, you 
usually get a bathroom kit and hot towels. The better class of service, the 
more perks. I once got upgraded from business to first from Hong Kong to 
Singapore, and it was a wildly lavish experience. I had more leg room in 
the first class cabin than I ever imagined was possible in an aircraft.

I think this is great idea. I am right into it. I'm off to NYC at the 
month's end. I'll report if I can make it happen.

Otto
(king of the perks from hell!!!!!!)



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Date:	Mon, 9 Feb 1998 19:19:29 EST
From:	RThurF@aol.com
Subject:	Alloy: something to do while flying

Hi Alloy people,

I've got an FABULOUS idea for everyone here to try, thanks to my friend 
Kim's new upstairs neighbors who just moved to Massachusetts from England, 
via Virgin Atlantic Airways. Toward the end of their flight, the man asked 
one of the attendants if he could sit in the cockpit & watch the pilot land 
the plane - - and they actually let him!! He said it was the coolest thing 
in the world. I thought I should propose this as an idea to the fine 
members of this list as a possible Alloy tradition in the works: each time 
one of us flies, he or she has to try gaining permission to sit in the 
cockpit for the landing. I know I, personally, am dying to try this now!
It would be equally fun to see the different airlines' reactions to the 
request.
Could Virgin Atlantic simply be a particularly nice airline which likes to 
indulge its passengers whims? I have heard that they give out socks and 
those little things with which to cover your eyes while you sleep & say 
"wakey-wakey!" on the outside (this according to friends who've traveled 
this airline personally), as well as  backpacks featuring their logo.
Robin

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