From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V2 #276 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Saturday, December 6 1997 Volume 02 : Number 276 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: Alloy: question [Louise.Ulfstedt@nmp.nokia.com (Ulfstedt Louise NMP)] Re: Alloy: question [Louise.Ulfstedt@nmp.nokia.com (Ulfstedt Louise NMP)] Alloy: XTC - Oranges and Dolby - stereo [dalexander@juno.com (Dennis S. A] Alloy: Alloy, the band! [dalexander@juno.com (Dennis S. Alexander)] Re: Alloy: question [dalexander@juno.com (Dennis S. Alexander)] Re: Alloy: question [dalexander@juno.com (Dennis S. Alexander)] Re: Alloy: question [Lem Bingley ] Re: Alloy: question [Paul Baily ] Re: Alloy: Alloy, the band! [Paul Baily ] Alloy: question [Tim Dunn <113203.2623@compuserve.com>] Alloy: The Big Music Exchange (proposed) [Tim Dunn <113203.2623@compuserv] Alloy: question ["Stephen M. Tilson" ] Alloy: Alloy, the band! [Tim Dunn <113203.2623@compuserve.com>] Alloy: Hey Brian! [nleacy@it-excelsior.britax.co.uk (Neil Leacy)] Re: Alloy: The Big Music Exchange (proposed) [Beth Meyer ] Re: Alloy: The Big Music Exchange (propo [Louise.Ulfstedt@nmp.nokia.com (] Re: Alloy: The Big Music Exchange (proposed) [Tim Dunn <113203.2623@compu] Re: Alloy: question [ljackson@nstar.net (Lee Jackson)] Re: Alloy: Alloy, the band! [ljackson@nstar.net (Lee Jackson)] Re: Alloy: question [MsSakamoto ] Alloy: The Big Music Exchange.. ["Stephen M. Tilson" ] Re: Alloy: Monya's dinner with Scott Adams [Monya De ] Re: Alloy: pet colors [RThurF ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 09:06:11 +0200 From: Louise.Ulfstedt@nmp.nokia.com (Ulfstedt Louise NMP) Subject: RE: Alloy: question Hi Robin! THis was a toughy,..hard not to choose sea creatures or birds,..but,... I guess for me, it would have to be a furry eared Lynx (the gorgeous wildcat we have in the forest around here) Colour,..hmmm,...black & grey aren't really a colour.....so I'd have to say a Mediterranean turquoise Hmmm,....the mind boggles,.. big hug, Lissu :-) ---------- From: alloy To: alloy Subject: Alloy: question Date: 04. December 1997 18:38 I have a question for each of you here at Alloy: What is your favorite animal and your favorite color? That's two questions really I guess, but they're both VERY IMPORTANT & have to do with a certain design for a certain something I'm working on. Warning: If you don't tell me over the next couple of weeks, I'll have to assign you an animal and color of my own choosing... Robin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 09:14:10 +0200 From: Louise.Ulfstedt@nmp.nokia.com (Ulfstedt Louise NMP) Subject: Re: Alloy: question Hmm,...now I just read the other mails about this,...we all seem to like the same things/colours,.(turquoise) WEIRD! hmmm,.. Lissu ---------- From: alloy To: alloy Subject: Re: Alloy: question Date: 04. December 1997 22:01 Hi, all; >What is your favorite animal and your favorite color? That's two questions >really I guess, but they're both VERY IMPORTANT & have to do with a certain >design for a certain something I'm working on. Well, I was going to take this offline, but perhaps it will be more community-building to leave it public for the moment. My favorite color: Teal, or turquoise if you want to limit the total number of color names. My favorite animal: This is a tough call. I think the current favorites are lemurs. (Though in the pet realm, I am definitely a cat person.) Of course, I can't wait to see the end result of all of this! Cheers, Beth ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Beth Meyer School of Psychology Pager: +1-404-866-1362 Georgia Institute of Technology FAX: +1-404-894-8905 274 5th St. gt9020a@prism.gatech.edu -or- Atlanta, GA 30332-0170 bmeyer@psy.psych.gatech.edu http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gt9020a/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 23:52:26 -0700 From: dalexander@juno.com (Dennis S. Alexander) Subject: Alloy: XTC - Oranges and Dolby - stereo Hey! How many of you like the band XTC? I had most of their CD's before I ever knew that they had a relationship with Thomas. Few bands can mesh so well and have such a diverse style! Like dolby, just about every song stands out on it's own. For your info., Andy Partridge, the drummer, played drums on Urges, Leipzig and harmonica on Europa and the Pirate Twins JAMac - (Dennis S. Alexander) www.symmetry.3000.com/dennisalexander www.geocities.com/hotsprings/2717 dalexander@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 02:16:32 -0700 From: dalexander@juno.com (Dennis S. Alexander) Subject: Alloy: Alloy, the band! Y'know, we could start writing music right now! Any musicians out there with midi on their pc's could start the ball rolling. Shoot, if anyone wants to take a stab at it, I could see about starting some tracks and send the midi file onto the next person. I would suggest using Beatnik but they don't have a Windows version yet. My forte seems to be building a foundation. I do good at the rhythm tracks, chords, bass lines, atmosphere, etc. I just have a slight problem writing melodies and lyrics. So, I'll write some rhythm tracks and send them on to whomever wants to give it a try. And if someone can write melodies and lyrics, I'll add the rest! Later we could add vocals, guitar, bass and accordion (can't forget that dang accordion from hell!) Anyone up for it? For the sake of order, whoever replies first, gets first shot, etc. Then, send the midi file back to me when you're done and I'll send it on to the next person. Sound fair? BTW, don't send attachments to my juno address, I won't get them. Instead, send them to jamac@idcomm.com and then let me know you sent them, as I don't check that email very often.) What should we call the band, "Alloy"? Or how about "FES Alloy"? Or maybe "Alloy Boddies"? I don't know. JAMac - (Dennis S. Alexander) www.symmetry.3000.com/dennisalexander www.geocities.com/hotsprings/2717 dalexander@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 02:50:43 -0700 From: dalexander@juno.com (Dennis S. Alexander) Subject: Re: Alloy: question >What is your favorite animal and your favorite color? That's two questions >really I guess, but they're both VERY IMPORTANT & have to do with a certain >design for a certain something I'm working on. > >Warning: If you don't tell me over the next couple of weeks, I'll have to >assign you an animal and color of my own choosing... > >Robin OK, Ok, uh, quick, I've only got 2 weks! Um, make that a green lion. Er, I mean a green lime. NO, wait, ah, lion and green! Yeah, that's it! Lion, green. Whew! JAMac - (Dennis S. Alexander) www.symmetry.3000.com/dennisalexander www.geocities.com/hotsprings/2717 dalexander@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 02:53:22 -0700 From: dalexander@juno.com (Dennis S. Alexander) Subject: Re: Alloy: question >I wonder what Thomas's favorite color is... > > -- E(lipse > Maybe you should ask him. thomas@headspace.com Unless Robin already did. JAMac - (Dennis S. Alexander) www.symmetry.3000.com/dennisalexander www.geocities.com/hotsprings/2717 dalexander@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 10:11:53 +0000 From: Lem Bingley Subject: Re: Alloy: question At 06:38 p.m. 4/12/97 EST, Robin wrote: >I have a question for each of you here at Alloy: Put me down for Poison Arrow Tree Frogs and the color purple. Lem ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 97 20:58:44 +1000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Re: Alloy: question >What is your favorite animal and your favorite color? That's two questions >really I guess, but they're both VERY IMPORTANT & have to do with a certain >design for a certain something I'm working on. Well, for me I'd say teal green and I'd have to agree with Lissu on the lynx. They're beautiful animals! cheeyahs, P2. ________________________________________________________________________ Paul Baily paulb@thehub.com.au JustSomeGuy http://www.thehub.com.au/~paulb Brisbane tel: +61-7-3857-8048/+61-411-875-009 Australia The white situation is over. A new situation begins. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 97 20:58:50 +1000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Re: Alloy: Alloy, the band! >What should we call the band, "Alloy"? Or how about "FES Alloy"? Or >maybe "Alloy Boddies"? I don't know. Light Metal? (sorry, I just... sorry. :-) ________________________________________________________________________ Paul Baily paulb@thehub.com.au JustSomeGuy http://www.thehub.com.au/~paulb Brisbane tel: +61-7-3857-8048/+61-411-875-009 Australia The white situation is over. A new situation begins. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 06:56:03 -0500 From: Tim Dunn <113203.2623@compuserve.com> Subject: Alloy: question 1 Cat 2 Yellow the_copse ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 06:56:00 -0500 From: Tim Dunn <113203.2623@compuserve.com> Subject: Alloy: The Big Music Exchange (proposed) OK, I had this great idea last night - it might be crazy, but see what yo= u think. = You know how when you turn the radio on and everything there is completel= y pathetic, and then you look in your tape collection, and everything there= is really great, but most of it is like five or ten years old? Well I thought in order for us to find out great new sources of music for= ourselves to listen to, we ought to use each other! Here's what I propose= =2E Anyone who wants to participate puts together a C90 of their favourite songs, no matter how weird and obscure, and sends it out to everyone else= who is willing to send them a copy of their C90. You don't have to send i= t to everyone, although you can if you want, and everyone who receives your= tape sends you a copy of theirs. Included with the tapes might be a lette= r giving a tiny background on each band/singer/composer, the names of their= best album, in case you hear something you really like, and more importantly, the from-the-heart reasons you like it so much!! I don't think it'll be too expensive, as for every tape you send you'll g= et one in return, but then I'm fairly used to sending loads of tapes in the post, and others might not fancy it...... Anyway, it's just an idea - I'm off to start my tape now! = One more idea, maybe all tapes should start with the compiler's most obscure Dolby track - I could contribute the classic 'Get Out Of My Mix' = or the excellent vocal-free versions of 'EasternBloc' and ILYG. Here's hoping for El Grando Responso! the_copse ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 06:43:28 -0500 From: "Stephen M. Tilson" Subject: Alloy: question Dear Robin, Favorite color: Tight Red Favorite Animal: The one that wears that color . . . But, if those choices aren't entirely useful for your mystery project, = perhaps these will do: alt.fav.color: Electric Blue alt.fav.animal: any of the family Felidae Happy creating! /\/\eow ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 06:56:01 -0500 From: Tim Dunn <113203.2623@compuserve.com> Subject: Alloy: Alloy, the band! I'll certainly be up for this, although my technology is rather unsophisticated! I'll work on it though, and see if I could contribute electronically. Otherwise I'd be happy to take a final mix into the studi= o and add something that way. Melody is my speciality!!! the_copse ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 11:50:43 From: nleacy@it-excelsior.britax.co.uk (Neil Leacy) Subject: Alloy: Hey Brian! Hey Brian, you sent me a personal mail about CODA. I replied but it's been bounced back as address not valid? Anyway, just to say thanks and if I do find a copy I'll dub you a tape. Regards, Neil Leacy IT Support (nleacy@it-excelsior.britax.co.uk) ==================================================================== For further information on child car seats designed and produced by Britax-Excelsior visit our web pages at http://www.britax.co.uk/ ==================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 08:15:28 -0500 From: Beth Meyer Subject: Re: Alloy: The Big Music Exchange (proposed) Hi, folks; >Anyone who wants to participate puts together a C90 of their favourite >songs, no matter how weird and obscure, and sends it out to everyone else >who is willing to send them a copy of their C90. You don't have to send it >to everyone, although you can if you want, and everyone who receives your >tape sends you a copy of theirs. Included with the tapes might be a letter >giving a tiny background on each band/singer/composer, the names of their >best album, in case you hear something you really like, and more >importantly, the from-the-heart reasons you like it so much!! Wow, I think this sounds really cool. Finally, something musical to which I could contribute! Although I don't technically have a lot of time, this could be a lot of fun, and I've got a tape-to-tape dubbing deck to make it easy once the first tape is done. Count me in... Cheers, Beth - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Beth Meyer School of Psychology Pager: +1-404-866-1362 Georgia Institute of Technology FAX: +1-404-894-8905 274 5th St. gt9020a@prism.gatech.edu -or- Atlanta, GA 30332-0170 bmeyer@psy.psych.gatech.edu http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gt9020a/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 15:18:47 +0100 From: Jean-Dominique Dalloz Subject: Re: Alloy: XTC - Oranges and Dolby - stereo Dennis S. Alexander wrote: > Hey! How many of you like the band XTC? Hi ! I'm new on this List and, of course, I'm a genuine fan of Dolby's work (especially "Aliens..."). Yes, XTC is quite a good band, very imaginative. Partridge is one of the best songwriter in the world of pop/rock music. I also see common approac= hes in music between Thomas Dolby and Rupert Hine (mostly my favorite artist). What do you think ? - --------------------------------------------- Jean-Dominique Dalloz Responsable du d=E9veloppement jddalloz@waw.com tel +33 (0)4 91 81 21 45 fax +33 (0)4 91 53 06 17 - --------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 09:39:45 -0500 From: Melissa Jordan Subject: Alloy: XTC vs. Adam Ant Just a side note on the XTC theme -- if any of you like They Might Be Giants (and what thinking person doesn't?) - check out the song "XTC Versus Adam Ant" on their latest endeavor "Factory Showroom." It's very amusing (as is the rest of the album.) Cheers, Melissa Melissa R. Jordan Special Projects Manager International Programs Office Goodwill Industries International, Inc. (301) 881-6858, ext. 4567 (301) 881-9435 (fax) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 16:29:24 +0200 From: Louise.Ulfstedt@nmp.nokia.com (Ulfstedt Louise NMP) Subject: Re: Alloy: The Big Music Exchange (propo Hi all! This sounds like a great idea,...It'll be more than a little complex for me, because I don't have a tape to tape deck,..but I could always tape my "mix" to my Hifi Video, and back to blanks from there,...hmm,...could give it a go! We could always have themes on the tape like: 1)happiest most up-lifting song 2)this_one_gets_me_most_reminiscent song 3)most wistful_sorta_sad song 4)song most favoured for getting up to naughty things with significant other with 5)favourite dolby song (or own effort from the aliens tape?) 6)song by favourite local band etc. I love Beths idea of explaining why they are your favourites,..hell, and we could even do our own cover art!! I might not be able to do this until the new year,..(I'm going to the UK on the 20th for the holidays) but I'm game otherwise! have a mightily ace weekend ! hugs, Lissu! P.S. Slarv, Copse,...what about meeting in York for a bevvy then?? P.P.S. Any of you Canadians heard of Rose Chronicles or Big Sugar (the 2 bands I'm interested in?) ---------- From: alloy To: alloy Subject: Re: Alloy: The Big Music Exchange (proposed) Date: 05. December 1997 08:15 Hi, folks; >Anyone who wants to participate puts together a C90 of their favourite >songs, no matter how weird and obscure, and sends it out to everyone else >who is willing to send them a copy of their C90. You don't have to send it >to everyone, although you can if you want, and everyone who receives your >tape sends you a copy of theirs. Included with the tapes might be a letter >giving a tiny background on each band/singer/composer, the names of their >best album, in case you hear something you really like, and more >importantly, the from-the-heart reasons you like it so much!! Wow, I think this sounds really cool. Finally, something musical to which I could contribute! Although I don't technically have a lot of time, this could be a lot of fun, and I've got a tape-to-tape dubbing deck to make it easy once the first tape is done. Count me in... Cheers, Beth ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Beth Meyer School of Psychology Pager: +1-404-866-1362 Georgia Institute of Technology FAX: +1-404-894-8905 274 5th St. gt9020a@prism.gatech.edu -or- Atlanta, GA 30332-0170 bmeyer@psy.psych.gatech.edu http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gt9020a/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 09:55:30 -0500 From: Tim Dunn <113203.2623@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: Alloy: The Big Music Exchange (proposed) Okeedokee This is on the road!! = Whoever wants to start can e-mail me their postal address on 113203.2623@compuserve.com and we'll be underway. Remember though that the most important thing (for= me anyway) is why YOU personally like it. I tend to analyse these things = in a muso way, which personal to me, but in music all opinions are equally valid for whatever reasons, except of course for those of the S###e Gi##s= =2E I really am going to have tp try and reduce my tape collection to 90 mins= now. Oh dear. the_copse ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 11:49:27 -0600 From: ljackson@nstar.net (Lee Jackson) Subject: Re: Alloy: question On Thu, 4 Dec 1997 18:38:03 EST, you wrote: >What is your favorite animal and your favorite color? Animal: Armadillo Color: Grey Swallow: Laden (African or European?) // Lee Jackson // ljackson@nstar.net // Garland, TX ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 11:52:39 -0600 From: ljackson@nstar.net (Lee Jackson) Subject: Re: Alloy: Alloy, the band! On Fri, 5 Dec 1997 02:16:32 -0700, you wrote: >Y'know, we could start writing music right now! Any musicians out there >with midi on their pc's could start the ball rolling. Don't know how much time I'd have, but I'm willing and the computer's = able. >What should we call the band, "Alloy"? Or how about "FES Alloy"? Or >maybe "Alloy Boddies"? I don't know. Dirty Datsun Driving Club (suggested for the upteenth time ). // Lee Jackson // ljackson@nstar.net // Garland, TX ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 13:39:05 EST From: MsSakamoto Subject: Re: Alloy: question In a message dated 97-12-04 22:06:08 EST, RThurF@AOL.COM writes: << What is your favorite animal and your favorite color? >> Er...any sort of dog, and red...no, blue! Actually, purple. - --Suzanne-- who just aquired a new roommate ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 13:58:33 -0500 From: "Stephen M. Tilson" Subject: Alloy: The Big Music Exchange.. Dear Tim, (you know, writing "Dear the_copse," just doesn't roll off the= = keyboard too well . . .) I like your idea! But I am afraid I won't get to it for awhile yet. I'v= e = got quite a few irons in the fire presently. Patience, me lad. Perhaps = (following Lissu's lead) after the first? Holiday blue, /\/\iles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 13:58:30 -0500 From: "Stephen M. Tilson" Subject: Alloy: Welcome! Dear Jean-Dominique, Welcome to Alloy! Best regards, /\/\iles BTW, who the hell is Rupert Hine? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 11:26:11 -0800 (PST) From: Monya De Subject: Re: Alloy: Monya's dinner with Scott Adams He's a little like dilbert :) He's really new age--hypnotism, vegetarian, etc. He made a big point of saying, when he found out what our majors were, that my friend the CS major would be the only one with a job in a few years. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 14:23:37 -0500 From: "Mary A. Brown" Subject: Alloy: Break out the bubbly! > Cheers, > = > Melissa Woohoo, she's back!! Sweet! Now we'll really have a Merry Christmas! Much love, Stephen and Mary ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 13:27:22 -0700 From: bcohen@LPL.Arizona.EDU (Barbara A Cohen via s2 ) Subject: Alloy: pet colors > > Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 18:38:03 EST > From: RThurF > Subject: Alloy: question > > What is your favorite animal and your favorite color? That's two questions > really I guess, but they're both VERY IMPORTANT & have to do with a certain > design for a certain something I'm working on. > Do we get to see the certain something when it's done? My favorite color is white (people sometimes argue that it's not a color but rather the *absence* of color, which may be true, but then how are there white crayons?), and I'm not really an animal person except for my cat. When we went to the San Diego Wild Animal Park, I liked seeing the animals, but I liked saying their names over and over again better-- like "lesser panda," "spider monkey," and of course, "leeeemuuuuuuuur." *B* Barbara Cohen Cosmochemical Cocktail Mixer, PhD to be ****************************************** Archaeologists will date any old thing. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 23:57:20 -0500 From: "Mary A. Brown" Subject: Alloy: question Lovely Robin, Here's my input - favorite color: yellow favorite animal: well, robin, of course! But if we're= = talking mammals, then Robin again! Okay, okay, I'll have to go with cani= nes. Smooches, Mary ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 00:03:28 EST From: RThurF Subject: Re: Alloy: pet colors In a message dated 12/5/97 11:16:00 PM, Barbara wrote: >Do we get to see the certain something when it's done? > Yes... I promise you'll get to see it, but it will be a surprise. And thanks for the amazing response from everyone so far!! >My favorite color is white (people sometimes argue that >it's not a color but rather the *absence* of color > White is a color - look on the back of a tube of white paint at the art store and you'll see the fixed pigments titanium dioxide or zinc oxide. Start telling people that white can actually be the combination of all the colors of the spectrum, when mixing light (do a prism demo if they don't believe you) Prof. Robin ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V2 #276 ***************************