From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V2 #141 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Monday, July 28 1997 Volume 02 : Number 141 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: ALLOY t-shirt / RSVP [Ian ] Alloy: Dolby/Titanic Mystery! [RThurF@aol.com] Alloy: Project B-Day Dibbs Update. [crackers@hwcn.org] Re: Alloy: ALLOY t-shirt / RSVP [crackers@hwcn.org] Re: Alloy: Clarification [crackers@hwcn.org] Re: Alloy: Dolby/Titanic Mystery! [Frank ] Alloy: Dibbs! ["Stephen M. Tilson" ] Re: Alloy: Project B-Day Dibbs Update. ["Mary A. Brown" ] Re: Alloy: Dolby/Titanic Mystery! [RThurF@aol.com] Alloy: _Airwaves_ bridge needed ["Stephen M. Tilson" Subject: Re: Alloy: ALLOY t-shirt / RSVP RThurF@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 7/25/97 4:13:01 PM, Ian wrote: > > < I buy them but I'd be willing to model them in the "FES" site pages!! > Something for Y'all to chew on hmmmmmmm? > >> > > Dolby jeans!! THE WORLD NEEDS THEM. Go with it Ian!! > > Robin :)What do you think guys? Little mad scientist faces on the buttons and the back pocket could either say "give me pulp" or "may the cube be with you!" in fine gold embroidery! I could even put together the music for the commercial if you'd let me (we'd just plagiarize alot of tmdr's stuff of course ;) (jus' kiddin') This is Ian G. signing off! Anybody coming to Canada give me a shout! - -- - ---Ian Gifford (flirp/folkie) mailto:igifford@hotmail.com =^.^= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 14:09:06 -0400 (EDT) From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Alloy: Dolby/Titanic Mystery! I just read something bizarre. Can you tell me what you think? "There were two vessels, striking in their similarities. As the world's largest luxury liner (882 feet, displacing 66,000 tons) The TITANIC was considered 'unsinkable'. Similarly, the TITAN - 880 feet, displacing 75,000 tons - was described as 'indestructible' "With three propellers and two masts, the Titanic steamed from Southampton, England on her maiden voyage in April of 1912. Identically equipped with three propellers and two masts, the Titan was also launched in April. "The Titanic carried only 20 lifeboats, less than half the number required for her passenger capacity of 3,000. The Titan 'carried as few lifeboats as would satisfy the law' - 24, less than half needed for her 3,000 capacity. "Moving too fast at 23 knots, the Titanic struck an iceberg on the night of April 14, 1912 in the foggy North Atlantic. Also on an April night in the North Atlantic, the Titan hit an iceberg while travelling at 25 knots. "The 'unsinkable' Titanic sank - and more than half of her 2,207 passengers died screaming for help. The 'indestructible' Titan also sank - more than half of her 2,500 passengers drowning, their 'voices raised in agonized screams' "But while the Titanic was an actual ship, the Titan was entirely fictional - created in 1898 for a novel by Morgan Robertson Inspired by a 'vivid trance vision' and entitled "The Wreck of the Titan" the novel was published 14 years before the real-life Titanic's voyage." If Morgan Robertson the 19th Century novelist is any relation to Thomas Morgan Robertson, it would be all the more spicy! Robin Mulder :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 14:23:01 -0400 (EDT) From: crackers@hwcn.org Subject: Alloy: Project B-Day Dibbs Update. Time is running out! Get your project B-Day dibbs in if you plan on contributing to the album. Only a month left to go! Current dibbs are... Crackers - Nuvogue Lee Jackson - Radio Silence The Copse - Flying North Ian Gifford - My Brain Is Like A Sieve Ms. Sakamoto - Close But No Cigar Robin XX - Urges Electrix - Wind Power Braenda - Beauty Of A Dream Eric Habbinga - Weightless So get your dibb in, get your recording done and submit it on a chrome 90 minute cassette (with return postage) to: Ian Gifford 551 Colborne St. London Ontario Canada N6B-2T9 Submissions must be sent in by the first week of September to give Ian enough time to compile the tapes and mail them out. We also have to pick a name for the album. So far the choices are: Retrospectators - Charles E. Kemp Amateurs & Heretics - Lem Bingley Airheads - Ian Gifford Aliens Ate My Birthday Cake - Crackers Also if you plan on submitting any Dolby inspired artwork/poetry for the J-Card please let me know and submit it to my E-mail Box by the beginning of september. CRACKERS (Things are moving from hell!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 14:23:13 -0400 (EDT) From: crackers@hwcn.org Subject: Re: Alloy: ALLOY t-shirt / RSVP In article <970726215500_-1608766370@emout06.mail.aol.com>, you wrote: >Dolby jeans!! THE WORLD NEEDS THEM. Go with it Ian!! ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ How about... Dolby Genes! CRACKERS (The Clone Ranger from hell!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 14:23:12 -0400 (EDT) From: crackers@hwcn.org Subject: Re: Alloy: Clarification In article , you wrote: >3) As much as I like the lyrics to "Weightless," I've come to > conclude that taking "Fruit Juice Everywhere" out of context > and putting it on a T-shirt just doesn't impress me much at all. > Displayed alone, it more likely will generate confusion, not > amusement. Granted, this could be said for just about any lyric > (depending on who you ask), including, "Mr. Dolby Rejects..."; > but--more to the point--the latter is to serve as a caption to > an image which it compliments quite nicely. The former has > nothing to work with, as it were. ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ I think if I could choose a lyric to wear on a T-shirt it would be... "Like an iron fist in a glove full of vasceline." CRACKERS (Sends shivers up the sphincter from hell!!!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 12:32:10 -0700 From: Frank Subject: Re: Alloy: Dolby/Titanic Mystery! Very, very interesting. Why am I hearing this for the first time now? In no other publications has this been referenced before. Where and how did you come across this? A most discerning revelation. Bizarre sure is the right word. Thanks for this imponderable. Whew!! Frank Wheeler At 02:09 PM 7/27/97 -0400, you wrote: >I just read something bizarre. Can you tell me what you think? > >"There were two vessels, striking in their similarities. As the world's >largest luxury liner (882 feet, displacing 66,000 tons) The TITANIC was >considered 'unsinkable'. Similarly, the TITAN - 880 feet, displacing 75,000 >tons - was described as 'indestructible' > >"With three propellers and two masts, the Titanic steamed from Southampton, >England on her maiden voyage in April of 1912. Identically equipped with >three propellers and two masts, the Titan was also launched in April. > >"The Titanic carried only 20 lifeboats, less than half the number required >for her passenger capacity of 3,000. The Titan 'carried as few lifeboats as >would satisfy the law' - 24, less than half needed for her 3,000 capacity. > >"Moving too fast at 23 knots, the Titanic struck an iceberg on the night of >April 14, 1912 in the foggy North Atlantic. Also on an April night in the >North Atlantic, the Titan hit an iceberg while travelling at 25 knots. > >"The 'unsinkable' Titanic sank - and more than half of her 2,207 passengers >died screaming for help. The 'indestructible' Titan also sank - more than >half of her 2,500 passengers drowning, their 'voices raised in agonized >screams' > >"But while the Titanic was an actual ship, the Titan was entirely fictional - >created in 1898 for a novel by Morgan Robertson Inspired by a 'vivid trance >vision' and entitled "The Wreck of the Titan" the novel was published 14 >years before the real-life Titanic's voyage." > >If Morgan Robertson the 19th Century novelist is any relation to Thomas >Morgan Robertson, it would be all the more spicy! > >Robin Mulder :) > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 19:26:33 -0400 From: "Stephen M. Tilson" Subject: Alloy: Dibbs! For: Crackers Hey-o, I'll be wanting dibbs on The Flat Earth, if available. --and-- Europa (Mary A. Brown) will take on Airwaves. Thanks for keeping score, Crackers! Wish us luck or something . . . Kind regards, Stephen /\/\iles above the earth tremors ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 19:36:45 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mary A. Brown" Subject: Re: Alloy: Project B-Day Dibbs Update. Okay Dante, Put me down for Airwaves (I'll get by with a little help from my friends...). Europa ________________________________________________________________________________ Mary A. Brown, Genetic Ingenue | Department of Biochemistry Phone: (606) 257-7039,-7349 | University of Kentucky Fax: (606) 323-1037 | 800 Rose St. E-mail: mabrown@pop.uky.edu | Lexington, KY 40536-0084 "I've got a pocket full of holes/Head in the clouds/The king of fools" Iva Davies _____________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 18:28:35 -0600 (MDT) From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Re: Alloy: Dolby/Titanic Mystery! > Very, very interesting. Why am I hearing this for the first time now? In no > other publications has this been referenced before. Sure it has -- I remember first reading about it in one of Frank Edwards' books (probably STRANGE WORLD) when I was a kid. Edwards was never really a stickler for research, though. :-) - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 21:01:13 -0400 (EDT) From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Dolby/Titanic Mystery! In a message dated 7/27/97 4:12:02 PM, Frank wrote: <> I found this information in Doug Moench's Big Book of the Unexplained , which is part of his "Factoid Books" series, published by Paradox Press, NY. Mr. Moench has made a career of rediscovering and researching strange facts such as the one I mentioned, and publishing them in graphic novel format with the help of various artists. If you want to go straight to the source, here are the listings from his bibliography on the story: Anderson, Ken. Coincidences: Chance or Fate? London: Blandford, 1995 Encyclopedia of the 20th Century. New York: Facts on File, 1991 Peat, F. David. Synchronicity: The Bridge Between Matter and Mind. New York: Bantam Books, 1987 Psychic Powers. Mysteries of the Unknown: Alexandria, VA: Time-Life Books, 1987 Reader's Digest. Mysteries of the Unexplained. Pleasantville, NY: The Reader's Digest Association, Inc., 1982 The Unexplained: Mysteries of Mind, Space & Time. Vols. 8, 9, 17 & 23. Westport, CN: H. S. Stuttman Inc. Publishers, 1992 Vaughan, Alan. Incredible Coincidence. New York: Ballantine Books, 1989 My father and I used to research stories like this together as a kind of hobby, back when 'the paranormal' wasn't so trendy & on television everywhere you looked! Robin :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 20:54:21 -0400 From: "Stephen M. Tilson" Subject: Alloy: _Airwaves_ bridge needed Anyone `round here have the chords to the bridge section of Airwaves? Pl= ease = post them if you do. Many thanks, /\/\iles ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V2 #141 ***************************