From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V2 #128 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Tuesday, July 1 1997 Volume 02 : Number 128 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: "Cliff Brigdon" ["Lazlo Nibble" ] Alloy: Disney on acid [RThurF@aol.com] Alloy: John Schofield's cousin [RThurF@aol.com] Alloy: Re:Disney Animation [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Alloy: music humor/rock 'n roll accordion [crackers@hwcn.org] Re: Alloy: Sailor Moon, etc. [crackers@hwcn.org] Re: Alloy: A birthday present for Mr. Dolby [crackers@hwcn.org] Alloy: Change of address [Bill Hargreaves ] Re: Alloy: Catching Up Again... [Paul Baily ] Alloy: Talking of catching up... [Paul Baily ] Alloy: It's Good To Be Home [Melissa Jordan ] Alloy: Getting Back to English [Melissa Jordan ] Alloy: Question about Thomas' EQ Article [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Disney on acid [Ian &/or Heidi ] Re: Alloy: Re:Disney Animation [Ian &/or Heidi ] Re: Alloy: Question about Thomas' EQ Article [MsSakamoto@aol.com] Re: Alloy: John Schofield's cousin [cekemp@netcom.com (Charles E. Kemp)] Alloy: Live Aid [bcohen@LPL.Arizona.EDU (Barbara A Cohen via apocalypse )] Re: Alloy: Live Aid ["Eric J. Hansen" ] [none] [Elaine Linstruth ] Re: Alloy: A birthday present for Mr. Dolby [Elaine Linstruth ] Re: Alloy: "Cliff Brigdon" [drbliss@blissworks.com (Clif Brigden)] Alloy: query [Paul Baily ] Alloy: Bio and B-day [Paul Baily ] Alloy: Stuff ["Melissa R. Jordan" ] Re: Alloy: Live Aid [MsSakamoto@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Stuff [MsSakamoto@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Stuff [Beth Meyer ] Re: Alloy: Stuff ["Melissa R. Jordan" ] Re: Alloy: Stuff (whoops) ["MEYER,ANN ELIZABETH" ] Re: Alloy: Stuff [Eclipse ] Re: Alloy: Re:Disney Animation ["Lazlo Nibble" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 16:00:24 -0600 (MDT) From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Alloy: "Cliff Brigdon" Clif, was that your name I saw -- horribly mispelled -- credited with percussion for Instinct in the credits of the ZTT: Value Of Entertainment concert video? (This is like looking for the number "23" -- once you're aware of it, it's in everything you look at. :-) - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 21:03:12 -0400 (EDT) From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Alloy: Disney on acid Hi Ian! A couple of Alloy-digests ago, in referrence to Mr. Scarfe designing the Hercules characters, you said you didn't think it would be good to watch a Disney film while tripping on acid - and I remember my oldest sister telling me she did just this when FANTASIA first came out (along with every other audience member in those days I'm sure) So it has been done. Though I think there is never any need for acid, ever; isn't reality weird enough on its own??!! I have loved Gerald Scarfe's work since I was a child, & I've never taken acid at all. . .so go anyway. And if you're not tripping, you won't scare the kiddies! Robin :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 21:16:38 -0400 (EDT) From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Alloy: John Schofield's cousin A few Alloy-digests ago, John Schofield wrote: >Claim to fame: my cousin Robert played the part of Patrick (a coma patient >with telekenetic powers) in an Australian movie called 'Patrick' (strangely >enough). Having said that I suppose nobody outside of Australia has even >heard of it!. I must tell you, John, that one of my sisters and I were TOTALLY into horror films as children & I have indeed seen PATRICK! It was one of our favorites; and my sister even had a crush on Patrick!! My own claim to fame is really obscure - my great grand uncle was James Willard Schultz, who married into the Blackfoot Indian Nation and helped establish Glacier National Park as a national park. He wrote many books in the late 1800's all about his adventures. His only son, Hart, was an painter & sculptor whose work was purchased by a US President (but I can't remember which one) - Hart died in 1971. My other claim to fame is that my hometown, Binghamton NY, was also the hometown of the Twilight Zone's very own Rod Serling! Robin :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 21:42:40 -0400 (EDT) From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Alloy: Re:Disney Animation I remember the "Pink Elephants" sequence, from seeing Dumbo as a child in the early '70's. It was WAY too scary for a theater filled with little kids. The screams could be heard for miles> Robin :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 01:49:45 -0400 (EDT) From: crackers@hwcn.org Subject: Re: Alloy: music humor/rock 'n roll accordion In article <3.0.32.19970628110451.006e5aa0@pop.prism.gatech.edu>, you wrote: >I would also pay good money to see crackers play >"Nuvogue" on accordion. I guess I'll just have to settle for hearing it on >tape, unless you have plans to start a world tour, crackers :-) ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ You'll have to let me know then if you're ever going to be up in Hamilton. I don't think I'll be doing much in the way of world tours. But you never know... I've been working for 10 years trying to become an overnight success! ;) CRACKERS (Little fish in a little pond from hell!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 01:49:42 -0400 (EDT) From: crackers@hwcn.org Subject: Re: Alloy: Sailor Moon, etc. In article <33B654A3.4482@oiart.org>, you wrote: >I too was a huge fan of battle of the planets as well as Voltron! I >don't like Sailor Moon much as I was just recently subjected to ALL the >episodes of the Macross saga of Robotech and the artwork in that show >(as well as MOST of the writing) just rocked! ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ The Macross Saga of Robotech was pretty good (the original Japanese was much better). The only thing really wrong with it was.... .... PROTOCULTURE!!!!!! They turned it into some sort of fuel source. In the Japanese Macross Protoculture is mearly reffering to the culture of the earth. (It's the aliens way of saying how primative we are... aliens are always so ethnocentric). Still I was able to stomache the Macross saga. But when you see the next two sagas (Southern Cross and Invid Invasion) you'll run screaming (as well as the Sentinals movie). You'll understand the line in the Dirty Pair Parody "The Dirty Pair Does The Dishes" where Yuri is standing infront of a tombstone reading "Here lies Carl Macek who was shot and killed outside a texas theatre after a showing of Robotech: The Movie.... wow, he must have really fucked up." When my ani-mates and I get together to watch some tapes, anytime we see the name Carl Macek in the credits we scream "Damn you Carl Macek! Damn you all to hell!!!!" And while we're on the subject of anime.... can you think of any musician to score an anime movie sountrack from start to finish who could do a better job than Thomas Dolby? Thomas' style would blend perfectly with Japanese anime. I'm sure there are a number of large anime companies in Japan that would jump at the chance to snag Thomas Dolby for one of their soundtracks. Thomas would even make a good looking character design for an anime character. Hey Miss Thomas Dolby Manager Lady!!! (said in Jerry Lewis voice) CRACKERS (Big in japan from hell!!!!!!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 01:49:43 -0400 (EDT) From: crackers@hwcn.org Subject: Re: Alloy: A birthday present for Mr. Dolby In article <33B656BE.1D97@oiart.org>, you wrote: >I was going to suggest that it would be best for you all to send a c-90 >and preferably a crO2-high bias tape. Normal bias will give you alot >more noise and the fact that this has to be taken from whatever format >you send me to the computer to the DAT to each subsequent Cassette is >going to generate enough new noise as it is. If the length is less than >90 minutes than at least I would be able to get all songs on one side >with a c-90 and that will make for ease of dubbing! 'zat Cool? ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ I have a feeling we might well need a C-90 anyways. The first day I announced Project B-Day I got 5 dibbs, since the deadline for completion will be September, that should give us plenty of time to aquire more musicians for the project. Now we just need to aquire some graphic artists and someone to manage the J-Card. CRACKERS (You will submit from hell!!!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 12:24:23 +0100 (BST) From: Bill Hargreaves Subject: Alloy: Change of address My friends, I am having problems. I've been out of the office since Wednesday and it seems that my mail account password has been changed and I can't collect mail. Whether this is because 'the Department' have decided to change all our personal internet accounts for corporate ones, or because the chap who is taking over my job has changed the password, I don't know. Whichever it is I can't pick up mail from this address, although it seems I can still send mail at the moment. I have already unsubscribed from Alloy and resubscribed from my other official address, which I should be able to retain for the next few months at least. Therefore if you have my address in a nicknames or alias file, please change it to Bill.Hargreaves@NWRO.dti.gov.uk TTFN Slarvibarglhee ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jun 97 22:35:36 +1000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Re: Alloy: Request In last week's episode, we heard Frank Wheeler say: >>I'm doing the vacation thing in a few days, and need to temporarily >>get off this list to keep the sysadmins here relatively happy. So [...] >Hello Bill: You will get a copy of your outgoing email. If it does not >indicate what I see above, I then repeat it. Thanks for responding to this Frank. Bill had originally emailed me direct but I couldn't get back in time due to my email meltdown here. Paul. ________________________________________________________________________ Paul Baily paulb@thehub.com.au Consulting SE/IT contractor http://www.thehub.com.au/~paulb Brisbane, Australia Forever trust in who we are. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jun 97 22:33:33 +1000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Re: Alloy: Catching Up Again... >much as we young un's do :-) (BTW Paul - Are you originally from the UK >as it's a long time since I heard anyone use the word 'chuffed' - usually >as in 'chuffed to bits'). I'm kiwi by birth (Australian by choice though :-), my parents are from GB and Wales so I guess that's where I got it from, then again, New Zealand has quite a few UK expats so maybe I just picked it up from there? cheers, Paul. ________________________________________________________________________ Paul Baily paulb@thehub.com.au Consulting SE/IT contractor http://www.thehub.com.au/~paulb Brisbane, Australia So close, no matter how far. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jun 97 22:33:35 +1000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Alloy: Talking of catching up... Hi y'all, If any of you have been waiting for a reply from me on something, apologies, earlier this week (which shall be known to me for this and other reasons as The Week Of Bad Karma) my main email database and it's offsite/backup counterpart database decided to crash within about a day of each other. I've only just completed picking the main pieces up off the floor so I'm playing catch up. If you're still waiting for a reply from me in a couple of days, could I ask you to re-send your original message (make sure you send it to paulb@thehub.com.au and not alloy@smoe.org) and I'll get back to you as soon as poss. cheers, Paul. P.S. Oh, and I'm happy to say that I've made very sure your t-shirt votes are intact and will try to post a summary later this week. ________________________________________________________________________ Paul Baily paulb@thehub.com.au Consulting SE/IT contractor http://www.thehub.com.au/~paulb Brisbane, Australia Forever trust in who we are. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 09:32:12 -0400 From: Melissa Jordan Subject: Alloy: It's Good To Be Home Hello, all. Well, I'm back in North America, relatively intact, but still covered in layers of dust that I fear I'll be shedding in the shower for the next three days. It's just after 9 am on Sunday, and, under normal circumstances, I'd still be asleep. In this case, however, my brother, who flew over from Germany to Chicago at the same time I flew over to Washington (we hung out at the Frankfurt airport together for about an hour before we parted for our respective planes) was working under the strange impression that I'd like him to call me at 7:15 this morning to chat. Grrrr... So, now, I'm awake, and you're the only people I can possibly bother at this unreasonable hour! I wanted to thank everyone who wrote such nice comments on my silly travelogues - it was much appreciated. After my e-mail access was cut off about a week and a half ago, I continued to write entries, and, if there is anyone interested in reading them, I'll be happy to send them to you at your private e-mail address (as to not bog down Alloy in my non-Dolby ramblings.) I had 286 e-mail messages waiting for me when I got on-line this morning - good god! Okay, I have to hunting through my empty fridge for something breakfast-like. I just don't feel like going out to find food, as that would require a shower and clothes other than jammies. Hope you are all well and happy. Cheers, Melissa Melissa R. Jordan Special Projects Manager International Programs Office Goodwill Industries International, Inc. (301) 881-6858 (301) 881-9435 (fax) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 09:41:31 -0400 From: Melissa Jordan Subject: Alloy: Getting Back to English Hmmmm... This is a problem I'm trying to get over: I wrote: Okay, I have to hunting through my empty fridge for something ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I'm still thinking in Russian. I'm doing better with speaking, but the thought process is still dealing out Russian subject/verb agreement... I think keeping the "Grammar Check" turned on for the next week or so is a good idea... Cheers, Melissa Melissa R. Jordan Special Projects Manager International Programs Office Goodwill Industries International, Inc. (301) 881-6858 (301) 881-9435 (fax) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 09:57:02 -0400 (EDT) From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Alloy: Question about Thomas' EQ Article I haven't had time to read the EQ article thoroughly yet, though I must say Thomas looks fantastic! But there is something I must ask - what IS that strange thing he's holding on page 70? Is it a rattle of some kind, or is it just Thomas' lunch? If it's for percussion, I would love to know what it sounds like, & how he came across this! Can I hear a sample of this exact instrument somewhere in the Dolby online Empire (or possibly in his previous recordings?) Robin :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 11:38:53 -0400 From: Ian &/or Heidi Subject: Re: Alloy: Disney on acid RThurF@aol.com wrote: > > Hi Ian! > > A couple of Alloy-digests ago, in referrence to Mr. Scarfe designing the > Hercules characters, you said you didn't think it would be good to watch a > Disney film while tripping on acid This a reference to all those people who say that the only way to watch "the Wall" was all tripped on LSD! It's kind of a high school/college joke, but it was the only reason i tried it in the first place and YES it did enhance "the Wall" for me somewhat! Though like I said, I like the wall no matter what state of mind I am in which is mostly sober these days. :) > - and I remember my oldest sister telling > me she did just this when FANTASIA first came out (along with every other > audience member in those days I'm sure) So it has been done. Though I think > there is never any need for acid, ever; isn't reality weird enough on its > own??!! AGREED!!! I stopped quite a few years ago (after a fairly light amount of experiments with it as compared to some of the people I was hanging around with at that time!) and have absolutely no desire to even see it! > I have loved Gerald Scarfe's work since I was a child, & I've never taken > acid at all. . .so go anyway. And if you're not tripping, you won't scare the > kiddies! Robin, I thought you were trying to convince me that I WOULDN'T need it!?! ;^) If I can't scare the kiddies I might as well wait for the video . ps. I have a bit of a problem with Disney these days. They have taken some of the most fantastic stories I ever heard as child and put their stamp on it and made it a DISNEY story. I mean The brothers Grimm are seen as those guys who wrote for Walt and Mother Goose was probably one of his earliest staff writers! Disney holds no charm for me any more unless they hire someone like Tim Burton! Tim's stuff is typically Disney in that it appeals to all ages but it's still weird beyond anything else that they produce and it's typically TIM BURTON! (do I make sense?) - -- - ---Ian Gifford (flirp/folkie) mailto:giffordstrasser@oiart.org =^.^= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 11:51:04 -0400 From: Ian &/or Heidi Subject: Re: Alloy: Re:Disney Animation RThurF@aol.com wrote: > > I remember the "Pink Elephants" sequence, from seeing Dumbo as a child in the > early '70's. It was WAY too scary for a theater filled with little kids. The > screams could be heard for miles> > Wasn't that sequence in Fantasia coupled with Tchaikovsky? That is a scary memory for me too! - -- - ---Ian Gifford (flirp/folkie) mailto:giffordstrasser@oiart.org =^.^= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 11:48:49 -0400 From: Ian &/or Heidi Subject: Re: Alloy: John Schofield's cousin RThurF@aol.com wrote: > > My other claim to fame is that my hometown, Binghamton NY, was also the > hometown of the Twilight Zone's very own Rod Serling! > > Robin :) Hey, Sarnia was home to Susan Clarke (Webster's mom! and Cherry Forever from Porky's) and James Doohan (Nooooo coptan, ah cannay beemya op, theres trobble with tha reelays agin) Not to mention my 2 favorite former Detroit RedWings Dino Ciccarelli and Shawn Burr (sorry to all of those with minimal exposure to the NHL). Also my dad used to deliver milk as a boy with Big Tam (aka Sean) Connery, in Edinborough and my mom delivered papers to the McCartney residence in Liverpool! (so they say!!!!) :) - -- - ---Ian Gifford (flirp/folkie) mailto:giffordstrasser@oiart.org =^.^= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 11:53:22 -0400 (EDT) From: MsSakamoto@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: "Cliff Brigdon" In a message dated 97-06-28 18:11:47 EDT, lazlo@swcp.com (Lazlo Nibble) writes: > This is like looking for the number "23" -- once you're aware of it, it's > in everything you look at. :-) Oooh...I've noticed that! - --Suzanne-- p.s. 23 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 11:14:37 -0700 From: Eclipse Subject: Re: Alloy: Disney on acid Ian &/or Heidi wrote: > ps. I have a bit of a problem with Disney these days. They have taken some of the > most fantastic stories I ever heard as child and put their stamp on it and made it > a DISNEY story. I mean The brothers Grimm are seen as those guys who wrote for > Walt and Mother Goose was probably one of his earliest staff writers! Disney holds > no charm for me any more unless they hire someone like Tim Burton! Tim's stuff is > typically Disney in that it appeals to all ages but it's still weird beyond > anything else that they produce and it's typically TIM BURTON! (do I make sense?) Disney is -evil-. From those workers in undeveloped countries that are paid below subsistance level, to the fact that the company is trying to take over the known world Do you realize how much of the mass media they control? They have their own planes. They have their own little army, really, with guns and everything... they actually own their own -town- for heaven's sakes! ("Celebration")... They brainwash people. The plots to their movies get worse and worse and worse, and I'm personally not - -very- impressed with the artwork and animation. They are a Big Evil Corporation. (not only that, but I'm none to thrilled with their dolphins in captivity, research aside... and I think I might have some "disagreements" with Drs John Gory and Mark Xitco, although their work is pretty solid (well, so is Lou Herman's..)) Hope I'm not offending anyone here! I'm just none too fond of Disney. And I've about gotta respect the Southern Baptists for -trying- to boycott them, even though it is for all the wrong reasons!! Will go hide under a rock now before I accidentally start a flame war... - -- E(lipse ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 17:07:37 -0400 (EDT) From: MsSakamoto@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Question about Thomas' EQ Article In a message dated 97-06-29 10:03:03 EDT, RThurF@aol.com writes: > I haven't had time to read the EQ article thoroughly yet, though I must say > Thomas looks fantastic! But there is something I must ask - what IS that > strange thing he's holding on page 70? I swear, it is impossible to find that magazine anywhere in the greater Cincinnati area! If someone could pick up a copy of it for me, I would be happy to pay for it and shipping charges! - --Suzanne-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 20:45:10 -0700 (PDT) From: cekemp@netcom.com (Charles E. Kemp) Subject: Re: Alloy: John Schofield's cousin > NHL). Also my dad used to deliver milk as a boy with Big Tam (aka Sean) Connery, > in Edinborough and my mom delivered papers to the McCartney residence in > Liverpool! (so they say!!!!) :) > sheesh...and all the better that I can do is my brother is the substitute mailman on my route, and one of the other boxes on the route is John Mellencamp's bassist, Toby Myers. ****** Charles E. Kemp ****** cekemp@netcom.com ****** (812) 597-5950 ****** Just for the sake of it make sure you're always frowning, it shows the world that you've got substance and depth. - Neil Tennant ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 14:52:49 -0700 From: bcohen@LPL.Arizona.EDU (Barbara A Cohen via apocalypse ) Subject: Alloy: Live Aid Last week some friends and I watched a tape of the 1985 concert "Live Aid"--remember that? David Bowie did some "Lets Dance"-era stuff with a huge backup band and two really outrageous backup singers. Near the end, he introduced everyone, and said that on the keyboards was the amazing Thomas Dolby! Well, we hadn't even noticed a keyboard, and then even while actively looking for one, the backup singers were always in the way! I have a pretty poor 3rd generation VHS copy, but I'd be glad to share it... There's also some other interesting stuff --like the Led Zeppelin "reunion" featuring Phil Collins and 3 slow guys, and a really great performance by Sting doing old Police stuff with just him, his guitar, and Branford Marsalis on sax... Re: Dr. Who: Wow, my favorite doctor is also a toss-up between Tom Baker and Sylvester McCoy and I thought the movie was okay but could've been better :) Tom was my 1st doctor but I really love McCoy. Incidentally, I've never seen any Jon Pertwee episodes. Apparently no PBS I've seen has run them. I can't stand Colin Baker. :) And about the bday tape, sounds like a fun idea! I'm in a little garage band that I'll bring the idea up to. We might think of something.... *B* Barbara Cohen Cosmochemical Cocktail Mixer, PhD to be ****************************************** Lemmings don't grow older, they just die. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 18:15:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "Eric J. Hansen" Subject: Re: Alloy: Live Aid Barbara Cohen writes: > Last week some friends and I watched a tape of the 1985 concert > "Live Aid"--remember that? David Bowie did some "Lets Dance"-era > stuff with a huge backup band and two really outrageous backup > singers. Near the end, he introduced everyone, and said that on > the keyboards was the amazing Thomas Dolby! Well, we hadn't [...] this is probably old news, but TD also appeared in some Pink Floyd "The Wall" benefit/tribute concert (for which there is a live CD). If I remember correctly, TD played a keyboard solo in lieu of one of Waters famous guitar solos in Another Brick In The Wall (part II, maybe?) - -Eric - -- Eric J. Hansen Worldmachine Technologies Corporation http://www.worldmachine.com tel: 617.492.1929, fax: 617.492.1953 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 21:14:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: [none] On Fri, 27 Jun 1997 crackers@hwcn.org wrote: > Anyways. What do you think of this idea? Any takers? I think it sounds fabulous. Of course, since I have no talents whatsoever, that's easy for me to say. :) I do have time. If there is any way I can contribute I'd be glad to.. but I'm no musician or artist. I used to plan conventions though, so maybe I could help with planning or deadlines. - -- Elaine Linstruth ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 21:25:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Re: Alloy: A birthday present for Mr. Dolby On Fri, 27 Jun 1997 crackers@hwcn.org wrote: > Well, first we should have someone confirm for a fact that Thomas's birthday > is indeed in October (we don't want to look like dinks). If it is then It's October 14th and he will be umm.. 39 this year I think. > to the general public to compete with Thomas's recordings. So you'd kind > of have to be a real prick to sue someone whose only trying to give you > a birthday present. And I just don't think that would be Thomas. Does Thomas own all of his own songs? - -- Elaine Linstruth ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 21:28:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Re: Alloy: A birthday present for Mr. Dolby On Fri, 27 Jun 1997 crackers@hwcn.org wrote: > (who knows... if enough people contribute to Project B-Day it might turn > into a Double Album!) Is this album going to have a name? - -- Elaine Linstruth ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 21:42:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Re: Alloy: John Schofield's cousin On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Ian &/or Heidi wrote: > with tha reelays agin) Not to mention my 2 favorite former Detroit > RedWings Dino Ciccarelli and Shawn Burr (sorry to all of those with I was thinking I had no claims to fame at all, but I realized upon seeing Dino's name that I was at Champion's in Georgetown (DC) the very same night as the one in which he supposedly met the infamous underage coed. He and his fellow Caps at the time allegedly raped her in a limo. Something like that. I wasn't there at the same time. :) Don't you wish you were me. - -- Elaine Linstruth ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 21:50:51 -0700 From: drbliss@blissworks.com (Clif Brigden) Subject: Re: Alloy: "Cliff Brigdon" Hey Lazlo, >(This is like looking for the number "23" -- once you're aware of it, it's >in everything you look at. :-) Would that my name were that omnipresent, I'd be retired by now. >Clif, was that your name I saw -- horribly mispelled -- credited with >percussion for Instinct in the credits of the ZTT: Value Of Entertainment >concert video? That's most definitely me. ZTT probably misspelled my name so they didn't have to pay me the usage fees. I remember they filmed the gigs - there were 14 days of them I think, but I had no idea they'd actually released the thing. I think I'm scared. Do you or anyone else on the list have a copy? I'd love a dub of it if you do. Peace . . . CLi f. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 97 18:51:54 +1000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Alloy: query [originally from Monya De ] I don't have Aliens but I've heard a live version of My Brain.... Is it a duet on the CD as well? Monya ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 97 18:51:56 +1000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Alloy: Bio and B-day [originally from Monya De ] 97 messages in my inbox...my head is spinning. Well, I had intentions to volunteer to put the tapes together, but looking at Ian's list of equipment, it seems that he has dibs on this job. What about the songs that are duets...Cruel etc. Are we just going to skip them? Bio: Monya De, who divides her time between Southern Indiana and Stanford University. Potential human biology major. Got into Dolby when I heard ILYGB on the radio. Favorite album: A&H. and live stuff, of course. Fave music: TD, Blues Traveler, Dave Matthews, Indigo Girls, Sarah MacLachlan, Jewel sometimes, Phantom/Miss Saigon/Les Mis/Once on this Island soundtracks, Stanford A Cappella (especially covers of "Don't Dream it's Over", "Fear" "Possession", "Satellite", "Take on Me" ...Cruel would sound great a cappella. anyway, REM sometimes, The Why Store. Fave TV: ER and Caroline in the City when I remember the time it's on. No time to watch anything else. Instruments: Piano, flute, aux. percussion. Played the flute in a marching band. Midwestern high school band is a culture all its own.Dabbled in choir. Got buff arms playing this set of ancient, horrendously heavy cymbals in the tri-state youth orchestra, as well as xylophone and about 20 other random instruments. Monya ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 09:47:21 -0400 From: "Melissa R. Jordan" Subject: Alloy: Stuff Hi, there - to Elaine, Charles, and the other fine folks who asked for the rest of my travel tales - I will try to find a moment or two later this week (as soon as I deal with the 10 tons of paperwork I found waiting on my desk this morning) to send them out to you. I'm considering distilling a few of them into a story to send to a special interest women's magazine, the editor of which once suggested I send her a few sample columns. We shall see... I like the TMDR B-Day Album idea. My musical skills are virtually nil, and I loathe the sound of my own recorded voice - almost to the point of not being able to listen to my answering machine - so maybe I can find some other way to be of assistance in creating such a creature... Cheers to you all - and a public thanks to My Friend James for giving you an update on my well-being when I was in Tashkent (although the dreadful phone line quality when I spoke to him - complete with resounding echoes, clicks, and other people's conversations - got a bit of my message messed up - I didn't stay in the Hotel Intercon, but rather the Hotel "D-Con," aka Rat and Roach Central.) Later, Melissa P.S. - Whazzup with the whole t-shirt thang? - ----------------------------------------- Melissa R. Jordan Remember The Women Pilots of WWII: Special International Projects Manager http://www.infinet.com/~iwasm/wasp.htm Goodwill Industries International, Inc. - ----------------------------------------- (301) 881-6858 (direct phone) (301) 881-9435 (fax) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 10:33:25 -0400 (EDT) From: MsSakamoto@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Live Aid In a message dated 97-06-30 21:31:01 EDT, eric@worldmachine.com (Eric J. Hansen) writes: > If I remember correctly, TD played a keyboard solo in lieu of one of > Waters famous guitar solos in Another Brick In The Wall (part II, maybe?) Not only that, but he appeared as the schoolmaster (and looked very cool doing it!) The entire concert was great, though. I love The Wall. Funny thing, though, since I look for insane things like this: Bob Geldof organized Live Aid--he also played Pink in the movie version of The Wall. Coincidence? Most likely. I just like to notice things like that. - --Suzanne-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 10:40:21 -0400 (EDT) From: MsSakamoto@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Stuff In a message dated 97-07-01 09:54:29 EDT, mjordan@goodwill.org (Melissa R. Jordan) writes: > I like the TMDR B-Day Album idea. My musical skills are virtually nil, and > I loathe the sound of my own recorded voice - almost to the point of not > being able to listen to my answering machine - so maybe I can find some > other way to be of assistance in creating such a creature... Anybody can sing. It's just a matter of doing it from the heart. Have you ever heard someone strangle a cow? No? Then you've never heard me sing. I'm still going to give it my best shot, though, because I know that it'll be coming from my heart and my intentions are good. (that had to be the sappiest thing I have ever written) - --Suzanne-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 10:54:01 -0400 From: Beth Meyer Subject: Re: Alloy: Stuff Hi, Melissa; It's a bit late, but I just wanted to add my name to the list of folks who would love to hear the travel stories! That e-mail address is bmeyer@psy.tfe.gatech.edu. Having experienced some of it myself, I find Eastern European and Slavic cultures fascinating (though it sounds like Uzbekistan is more Asian than Slavic, but still...) By the way, our last Sunday's paper in Atlanta had a big article on environmental problems in the former Soviet Union, notably Uzbekistan -- it talked about how a big inland sea there was being drained to irrigate the cotton crops. It featured a photo of a former boat captain in a "former port city" next to the beached skeleton of a boat. Of course, I imagine that a lot of folks there have a lot more urgent things to worry about... Cheers, Beth - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Beth Meyer School of Psychology Pager: +1-404-866-1362 Georgia Institute of Technology FAX: +1-404-894-8905 Atlanta, GA 30332-0170 bmeyer@psy.tfe.gatech.edu http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gt9020a/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 11:50:22 -0400 From: "Melissa R. Jordan" Subject: Re: Alloy: Stuff At 10:54 AM 7/1/97 -0400, Beth wrote: >By the way, our last Sunday's paper in Atlanta had a big article on >environmental problems in the former Soviet Union, notably Uzbekistan -- it >talked about how a big inland sea there was being drained to irrigate the >cotton crops. It featured a photo of a former boat captain in a "former >port city" next to the beached skeleton of a boat... Yeah, it's sad - the environment is so fragile there that two unexpected rainfalls during my stay (normally it doesn't rain in Uzbekistan after May 1st - hasn't done so in hundreds of years) may have a catastrophic effect on the cotton harvest. I saw some really depressing footage of the disappearing Aral Sea when I was there - very, very scary stuff going on throughout the region - the brazen disregard for the environment is terrifying. But it is true - if you're starving, and the gov't gives you pesticides to keep your crops going, you're not going to stop and ask if the ingredients will eventually give your children extra eyes - you just use it and hope you'll be able to eat and sell your produce! Okay, back to work... Cheers, M. - ----------------------------------------- Melissa R. Jordan Remember The Women Pilots of WWII: Special International Projects Manager http://www.infinet.com/~iwasm/wasp.htm Goodwill Industries International, Inc. - ----------------------------------------- (301) 881-6858 (direct phone) (301) 881-9435 (fax) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 12:38:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "MEYER,ANN ELIZABETH" Subject: Re: Alloy: Stuff (whoops) Sorry, folks -- I actually intended to send that last note just to Melissa, but forgot to edit the "reply-to" address and sent it to the whole list instead. But hey, if we can hold discussions about the Spice Girls and one's favorite Dr. Who, why not Uzbek environmental issues? :-) Anyway, a public thanks to Melissa for all of the very cool global enlightenment... Cheers, Beth ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 10:12:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Re: Alloy: Re:Disney Animation Speaking of Fantasia, I was wondering why they haven't bothered to re-record (or at least re-engineer) the soundtrack to that movie. I bought the laserdisc, for posterity's sake.. and I can't even bear to watch it. Sounds terrible! Has anybody ever read anything about that subject? - -- Elaine Linstruth On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Ian &/or Heidi wrote: > RThurF@aol.com wrote: > > > > I remember the "Pink Elephants" sequence, from seeing Dumbo as a child in the > > early '70's. It was WAY too scary for a theater filled with little kids. The > > screams could be heard for miles> > > > > Wasn't that sequence in Fantasia coupled with Tchaikovsky? That is a > scary memory for me too! > > -- > ---Ian Gifford (flirp/folkie) > mailto:giffordstrasser@oiart.org > =^.^= > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 12:20:44 -0700 From: Eclipse Subject: Re: Alloy: Stuff MsSakamoto@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 97-07-01 09:54:29 EDT, mjordan@goodwill.org (Melissa R. > Jordan) writes: > > > I like the TMDR B-Day Album idea. My musical skills are virtually nil, and > > I loathe the sound of my own recorded voice - almost to the point of not > > being able to listen to my answering machine - so maybe I can find some > > other way to be of assistance in creating such a creature... > > Anybody can sing. It's just a matter of doing it from the heart. Have you > ever heard someone strangle a cow? No? Then you've never heard me sing. > I'm still going to give it my best shot, though, because I know that it'll > be coming from my heart and my intentions are good. (that had to be the > sappiest thing I have ever written) > > --Suzanne-- You're a braver woman than I, Suzanne... I can barely listen to my own recorded voice, and I'm loathe to sing where anyone can hear me... it does, I imagine, sound something like a cow being strangled... I "croak like a dying frog". But yes, I suppose if it comes from the heart... (speaking of which, does anyone else find Wendy Smith (of Prefab Sprout)'s near emotionless singing more than a little creepy?) I myself love the b-day album idea... but will -probably- stick to contributing artwork or poetry.. those, I can do. Pity I have no musical skills though, considering the profession I'm going into.. - -- E(lipse ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 11:53:20 -0600 (MDT) From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Re: Alloy: Re:Disney Animation > Speaking of Fantasia, I was wondering why they haven't bothered to > re-record (or at least re-engineer) the soundtrack to that movie. I > bought the laserdisc, for posterity's sake.. and I can't even bear to > watch it. Sounds terrible! Has anybody ever read anything about that > subject? Actually they've done both. Irwin Kostal conducted for a digital rerecording of the score that was used in the early-1980s rerelease of the film. This outraged a lot of people -- there were some problems with the sync between the animation and the music, and really, what's the point of with bit with Mickey Mouse shaking Stokowski's hand if Stokowski didn't play the music? -- so they went back and remastered the original Stokowski version of the soundtrack for 1990's 50th Anniversary rerelease. Which version of the laserdisc do you have, Elaine? I didn't think the 50th Anniversary version sounded bad at all considering the age of the source materials, though I think I remember hearing some folks complain about how the Dolby Surround tracks sound when played in mono . . . - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V2 #128 ***************************