From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V2 #124 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Wednesday, June 25 1997 Volume 02 : Number 124 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: Croydon [paul ] Re: Alloy: Croydon [Lem Bingley ] Alloy: A lurker Bio [Sam Rauch ] Re: Alloy: The New Round of Introductions [Beth Meyer ] Re: Alloy: Fwd for Frank [MsSakamoto@aol.com] Re: Alloy: A lurker Bio [Ian ] Re: Alloy: TMDR's new book [crackers@hwcn.org] Re: Alloy: The New Round of Introductions [crackers@hwcn.org] Re: Alloy: Introductions [crackers@hwcn.org] Re: Alloy: The New Round of Introductions [Ian ] Re: Alloy: Fwd for Frank [Frank Wheeler ] Re: Alloy: The New Round of Introductions [Frank Wheeler ] Re: Alloy: Fwd for Frank [Elaine Linstruth ] Alloy: new Alloy introductions [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Fwd for Frank [Frank Wheeler ] Alloy: Here's my bio [Elaine Linstruth ] Re: Alloy: Duke Nukem!? [ljackson@intex.net (Lee Jackson)] Alloy: Yet another bio... [cekemp@netcom.com (Charles E. Kemp)] Re: Alloy: Catching Up Again... [Neil Leacy Subject: Alloy: Croydon Croydon, I thought that I might have disuaded you from that blasted "donorcycle". A cloud now hangs over the remainder of my day. Sphere ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 13:39:10 +0100 From: Lem Bingley Subject: Re: Alloy: Croydon At 19:14 23/6/97 -0700, you wrote: >Croydon, I thought that I might have disuaded you from that blasted >"donorcycle". A cloud now hangs over the remainder of my day. Sphere > Alas, no, it's in the blood. Funny, the 'donorcycle' bit - plus you being a Doc and all - reminded me of one of the most annoying continuity errors I've ever seen on TV. In an early episode of ER, nurse Hathaway tut-tutts over an incoming gurney with bloody victim, saying that "round here we call 'em donorcycles." A couple of seasons later, and Dr Greene has bought a motorcycle. Nurse Hathaway needs to get home in a hurry, and borrows said bike. "Do you know how to ride?" asks the concerned Dr Greene. "Hey, how different can it be from a moped," quips the excitable nurse, and off she goes.... No leathers, no lessons, no pause to do up the chin-strap of her helmet. And I thought ER was the responsible face of TV. Actually, my bike's up for sale. Since I am moving to California later this year, I won't be able to take it with me. And I doubt I'll buy a bike in the US, since I think I surely would end up dead with all my riding reflexes working toward the wrong side of the road and all... Lem ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 08:49:02 -0500 From: Sam Rauch Subject: Alloy: A lurker Bio Hello Fellow Dolby Enthusiasts, Before I tell everyone about myself I'd like to tell Melissa Jordan that I've been forwarding her posts to a few friends who read them and enthusiastically wait for the next one! Thank you for giving us a mental trip to places many of us will never see. It's truly fascinating. And to Frank Wheeler, regarding one of your last posts, I think everyone here on the list would be glad to bestow upon you an honorary degree in Computer Science. I know I would. Congratulations on continuing to do what interests you, even if it takes a lot of learning in the beginning. Name: Sam Rauch Age: Freshly 27 Occupation: Technical Support for a popular options trading software package. Other Musical Interests: Paul Weller, Ben Folds Five, Steely Dan, Jamiroquai, Liquid Soul, 311, Metallica (my motto: there's a time and a place for everything), Rush, Eat Static, Daft Punk, Cocteau Twins, a number of ska bands (that WAS a generalization), Faith No More, etc., etc., etc., Other Interests: Drumming, travel, fitness, beer (brewing AND drinking...have to exercise if I want to drink all that beer), live music, movies, reading. Been a Dolby fan since: bought a vinyl copy of the "She Blinded Me..." single and it had "One of Our Submarines" on it. I liked all of that, and I had a buddy who was majorly into Dolby and Peter Schilling. Told me to get my arse out and get "The Flat Earth". Which I did, and that's all it took. I don't have all of TMDR's stuff, but I have heard all of it. I particularly enjoy the Mind's Eye stuff. Cheers, Sam ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 10:24:58 -0400 From: Beth Meyer Subject: Re: Alloy: The New Round of Introductions Hi, folks; Frank said: >Thanks for the welcome, and now I am in a quandary, somewhat. > >Right now, I am just not sure as to my selection. I'll submit it to a >roll-call. I'll count the votes; all in favor of Retro say Aye, all in favor >of Flat Earth say Buy and I'll pick the winner! Those lurking in the shadows >can cast a vote. I'm honest. Well, maybe some people just have to be different, but my top recommendation would actually be for "The Gate to the Mind's Eye." Based on Frank's love of the stuff on the Headspace web site, and his love of big band (think "Nuvogue"), I suspect that it is what he would enjoy the most. But Retrospectacle and Flat Earth are not bad choices either -- I particularly think that you would enjoy the title track of the latter. However, here is another thought to help Frank make his decision. Frank, if one of us were to download and send you (via e-mail) a few sound or video clips from the Flat Earth Society web site, do you think you would be able to play them? That way, you could try before you buy, so to speak. All you need is: * An e-mail package that accepts binary files attached to the message * PKZIP software for "unzipping" compressed files * Software that will play audio and video (the specific audio format is called "mpeg audio", and I know that it can be downloaded from someplace.) I just would hate to see you spend your hard-earned dollars on a CD that you don't end up enjoying that much. (Of course, if you bought "Retrospectacle" and didn't care for it, there are probably a few of us who don't have it yet who'd be willing to buy it from you.) Oh, and I don't think that Algarve is on a CD yet. Anyone else here know any more? Cheers, Beth M. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Beth Meyer School of Psychology Pager: +1-404-866-1362 Georgia Institute of Technology FAX: +1-404-894-8905 Atlanta, GA 30332-0170 bmeyer@psy.tfe.gatech.edu http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gt9020a/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 09:48:27 -0700 From: Eclipse Subject: Re: Alloy: A lurker Bio Sam Rauch wrote: > > Hello Fellow Dolby Enthusiasts, > > Before I tell everyone about myself I'd like to tell Melissa Jordan that > I've been forwarding her posts to a few friends who read them and > enthusiastically wait for the next one! Thank you for giving us a > mental trip to places many of us will never see. It's truly > fascinating. I've been forwarding them too! And collecting them to show to a few other friends. Even better than Nat'l Geographic... ;-) - -- E(lipse ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 11:31:16 -0400 (EDT) From: MsSakamoto@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Fwd for Frank In a message dated 97-06-24 02:53:16 EDT, wheelman@mindspring.com (Frank Wheeler) writes: > Suzanne: I just wish I had your age and was starting over. I know so very > little about your preferences but I am sure as the devil willing to find out. Some of them I think that you might like. Squirrel Nut Zippers are somewhat Dixieland, and Combustible Edison (as well as Big Bad Voodoo Daddy) are swing/lounge music. > Now Harry Connick, Jr. Him I know. Harks back to the days of the Dorseys. > Yes, they do belong to this century. Ha! I've loved his music since about the time he did the soundtrack for "When Harry Met Sally..." I think it was because I already loved "It Had to Be You", but who knows? My current favourites of his are "Just Kiss Me" and "Red Light Blue Light (Someone's There)". > I am going to buy 'Retrospecticle'. Sounds great. Is $13.99 a good or a bad > price for the CD. I researched it at Wherehouse. Good, considering I've seen it for around $15 for U.S. and $20 for import (and there was no differences on the cd that I could tell, other than the letters on the front were of a different colour, but then again, I only saw the cd--I didn't look on the inside. Even the songs were the same). I personally got mine for $7, bargained down from $10 (hey, I was unemployed at the time and had to borrow the money in the first place!) at Mole Records in Cincinnati. - --Suzanne-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 14:38:11 -0400 From: Ian Subject: Re: Alloy: A lurker Bio Eclipse wrote: > > Sam Rauch wrote: > > > > Hello Fellow Dolby Enthusiasts, > > > > Before I tell everyone about myself I'd like to tell Melissa Jordan that > > I've been forwarding her posts to a few friends who read them and > > enthusiastically wait for the next one! Thank you for giving us a > > mental trip to places many of us will never see. It's truly > > fascinating. > > I've been forwarding them too! And collecting them to show to a few > other friends. Even better than Nat'l Geographic... ;-) > I also have been printing these regularly! My Parents have been very enthused for Melissa (thought they keep asking me who she is and I say I don't quite know! but...) as my Father did alot of work for Goodwill though mostly regionally (In Ontario) for about 18 years (perhaps you met him at a G.I.A. conv. Melissa!!) Pleas send us more if you get the connections okay? - -- - ---Ian Gifford (flirp/folkie) mailto:giffordstrasser@oiart.org =^.^= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 14:48:12 -0400 (EDT) From: crackers@hwcn.org Subject: Re: Alloy: TMDR's new book In article <199706230714.HAA23025@rockdmz1.geis.com>, you wrote: >While surfing the web, I found this on the Ziff-Davis Press site: > >Ziff-Davis Press presents... > >Thomas Dolby's Guide to Web Site Sound Design: >Beatnik, RMF and Digital Audio ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ Feh! I'd be much more insterested in a biography than a tech book, or even a "this is what I think about stuff" book, or even a conclusion to the unfinished "Emeritus Professor" story. ;) Personally, I hope he gets this whole "headspace" thing worked out of his system soon and gets back to making music. A new digital audio format isn't going to change the world overnight... anymore than the invention of the sound blaster. CRACKERS (I wanna new CD from hell!!!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 14:48:16 -0400 (EDT) From: crackers@hwcn.org Subject: Re: Alloy: The New Round of Introductions In article , you wrote: >By the way, is CRACKERS on this list? ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ Yepper... I suppose I'll use this opportunity to do my introduction for those who don't know me. Name: Crackers Birth Name: Christopher David Cracknell Title: King Of The Geeks City: Hamilton Province: Ontario Country: Canada, eh. Date of Birth: September 13th, 1965 (Virgo) Age: 31 Wife: Beena Sheba Cracknell (India) /33 Son: Logan Raju Cracknell /4 Expecting: september 17th (99% sure it'll be a girl in which case she will be named Kerala Pembroke Cracknell. if a boy then Sloan Ashok Cracknell) Education: current student at Macmaster University '83-85 Humber College (Audio Visual Production) Major: Combined honours Anthropology/Japanese Post Graduate Plans: Forensic Anthropology Occupation: Musician Main Instrument: Accordion Secondary Instrument: Keyboards (former main instrument) Musical Style: Wethifl Favorite Colour: Forest Green Favorite Beer: Guinness Favorite Food: Suicidal Chicken Wings w/ onion rings and Bun Fu Favorite Softdrink/Slurpee Flavour: Dr. Pepper Second Favorite Slurpee Flavour: Miss Sakamoto Military Service Record: Gunner, Royal Canadian Artillery. Twice decorated for getting drunk above and beyond the call of duty. Medal of Honour for regimental Potato Sack Race. Awarded the Purple Butt after dropping soap in showers at CFB Petawawa. Invented the sport of "Howitzer Headbutting". Talents: Music, Art, and I can perfectly imitate the sound of someone talking on a "Walkie Talkie". Also writing name in snow with urine. Ineptitudes: Speling, basic math. Hobbies: Collecting Atari 2600 Cartridges. Writing programmes for the 2600. (Yep, the 2600 was the great grandaddy of all cartridge based home video game machines) Favorite Sailor Scout: Sailor Mercury (Ami Chan wa atama ga ii desu). Computers: 3 Commodore 64s, 2 Vic-20s, 5 Atari STs, 2 TI-99/4As, 1 Timex Sinclair ZX-81, 1 Apple ][+ clone, 1 Apple ][e, 2 8088s, 1 386, 1 486, and a partridge in a pear tree. (incidently, I use the 386 as a file server for my Atari 2600... ... I'm serious! Now you know why I'm the King Of The Geeks.) Favorite Breast: The left one... definetly the left. Religion: Devotee of Bira Bira, mystic guardian of the Sacred Reef Store. Favorite Computer: Atari ST (it's ancient, but it beats the crap out of my 486 when it come to MIDI, plus you can find them for $10 at the Goodwill). First Thomas Dolby Audio Orgasm: Listening to the drums on "She Blinded Me with Science" move back and forth in my head on my brother's walkman. Favorite Thomas Dolby Album: (tie) The Golden Age Of Wireless Astronaughts and Heritics. Favorite Thomas Dolby Song: (tie) She Blinded Me With Science Silk Pajamas. Favorite Thomas Dolby Obsession: Trying to hunt down those elusive photos of Thomas dressed in drag as a bored, blonde, Beverly Hills housewife. Favorite Video Game: Warlords with 4 players (Atari 2600) Favorite Sport: Co-ed Rugby (nude) Favorite Author: Sheri S. Tepper Favorite Star Trek Series: Deep Space Nine Favorite Wet Dream: it involved Debbie Harri and Lt. Uhura (puberty was never so much fun) Favorite Pastime: wasting lots of bandwidth introducing myself to mail lists. And think that should do it for now... if you need more info on me, visit my webpage. CRACKERS (Anyone got pictures of Thomas in drag from hell!!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 14:48:14 -0400 (EDT) From: crackers@hwcn.org Subject: Re: Alloy: Introductions In article <33AEAC1C.163B@a.crl.com>, you wrote: >Sure, why not... I'm Eclipse (real life name of Julia), and I live in >rural Missouri, USA, though not by choice (I'm leaving for the coast at >the first opportunity). I have lots of pets, lots of hobbies, and much >less experience with the world in general than most of the members of >Alloy and TFES (especially Melissa! ;-) ), but hey, I'm young... ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ Hey E(lipse! Nice to see you again. Quite a few of the FES crew have been wandering into here since the "demise" of the Tap Room. CRACKERS (General milling about from hell!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 14:56:51 -0400 From: Ian Subject: Re: Alloy: The New Round of Introductions Hello Ian here: I am 27 till Sept. I live in London, Ont. Canada and grew up in a city of 74,000 called Sarnia which is known as the armpit of Ontario! (what a stink! Sarnia is home to the largest percentage of petrochemical plants in Canada! places like "DOW", "BASF", "Bayer", "Cabot Carbon", "Imperial Oil", "Suncor" and more. That's why I left!) Sarnia is at the mouth of the Great Lake Huron and the basin of the st. Clair river! I am interested in mostly musical thangs! I play acoustic guitar and write and sing! I perform festivals, at coffee houses, at pubs/bars and on street corners! I am a recent graduate of O.I.A.R.T. (as I have mentioned recently) and hope to Produce albums for artists for the rest of my life! I live with my girlfriend Heidi who recently was a candidate for MP (member of parliament) for the GREEN party! Musically I like: the rheostatics, People From Earth, Laughing Sam's Breakdown, The THe, TMDR, Sinead O'connor, UZEB, Weather Report, Pat Metheny, Jean Luc Ponty, Mahavishnu, Glenn Miller, Yes, King Crimson, World Party, Jane Siberry,Bruce Cockburn, Tori Amos, THE BEatles, Adam miner (a 17 yr. old pop genius that I recently produced!) Sarah McLachlan (I interviewed her for a magazine that I used to write for!) OH! And I will not forget ANI DIFRANCO!!! (my heroine!) I have been a TD fan since the release of the sbmws video (Iwas a kid! I dug his hair and the wacky scientist get up!) - -- - ---Ian Gifford (flirp/folkie) mailto:giffordstrasser@oiart.org =^.^= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:17:48 -0700 From: Frank Wheeler Subject: Re: Alloy: A lurker Bio At 08:49 AM 6/24/97 -0500, you wrote: >Hello Fellow Dolby Enthusiasts, > > > >And to Frank Wheeler, regarding one of your last posts, I think everyone >here on the list would be glad to bestow upon you an honorary degree in >Computer Science. I know I would. Congratulations on continuing to do >what interests you, even if it takes a lot of learning in the beginning. Thanks, Sam > >Name: Sam Rauch >Age: Freshly 27 >Occupation: Technical Support for a popular options trading software >package. > >Other Musical Interests: Paul Weller, Ben Folds Five, Steely Dan, >Jamiroquai, Liquid Soul, 311, Metallica (my motto: there's a time and a >place for everything), Rush, Eat Static, Daft Punk, Cocteau Twins, a >number of ska bands (that WAS a generalization), Faith No More, etc., >etc., etc., > >Other Interests: Drumming, travel, fitness, beer (brewing AND >drinking...have to exercise if I want to drink all that beer), live >music, movies, reading. > >Been a Dolby fan since: bought a vinyl copy of the "She Blinded Me..." >single and it had "One of Our Submarines" on it. I liked all of that, >and I had a buddy who was majorly into Dolby and Peter Schilling. Told >me to get my arse out and get "The Flat Earth". Which I did, and that's >all it took. I don't have all of TMDR's stuff, but I have heard all of >it. I particularly enjoy the Mind's Eye stuff. > >Cheers, > >Sam > Hi some more, Sam. And what did George Bernard Shaw say, "Youth is such a wonderful thing. Why is it bestowed only on young people?". Everyone is so young in this Alloy group. And I don't know your music groups at all but I am strictly to blame. I have been living in a cave for a very long time. But I do understand BEER. Now we are talking the same language! I am discovering a lot about TD. First and foremost he is a composer. That I can prove from the Beatnik site. And I am gathering that he sings, too. But since I have not heard any of the songs but only references, I have to hold judgment on that account. Everyone seems to tout the Science composition. Is there anyway to go to a Web Site and just sample a snippet of what TD has produced? I have forgotten where, but once I was there and because the colors were so washed out and I didn't know how to increase my options on my computer, I bowed out because the text was so underlit that I couldn't read it. I guess my setting had a lot to do with that. You all sound so outgoing. I like that. And now if I get the MO correctly, this email gets directed back to you Sam and to all of the remaining members in Alloy. Right? I get back even copies of what I write. Took me a while to figure that one out. I don't grasp things like I used to. Perhaps an early sign of senility. Quien sabe? You sound like you have a challenging profession. I'll bask in your glory. No longer is there a need for me to write my own songs. Thanks again for the encouragement. The Elder Statesman Frank Wheeler ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:38:30 -0700 From: Frank Wheeler Subject: Re: Alloy: Fwd for Frank At 11:31 AM 6/24/97 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 97-06-24 02:53:16 EDT, wheelman@mindspring.com (Frank >Wheeler) writes: > >> Suzanne: I just wish I had your age and was starting over. I know so very >> little about your preferences but I am sure as the devil willing to find >out. > >Some of them I think that you might like. Squirrel Nut Zippers are somewhat >Dixieland, and Combustible Edison (as well as Big Bad Voodoo Daddy) are >swing/lounge music. > >> Now Harry Connick, Jr. Him I know. Harks back to the days of the Dorseys. >> Yes, they do belong to this century. Ha! > >I've loved his music since about the time he did the soundtrack for "When >Harry Met Sally..." I think it was because I already loved "It Had to Be >You", but who knows? My current favourites of his are "Just Kiss Me" and >"Red Light Blue Light (Someone's There)". > >> I am going to buy 'Retrospecticle'. Sounds great. Is $13.99 a good or a >bad >> price for the CD. I researched it at Wherehouse. > >Good, considering I've seen it for around $15 for U.S. and $20 for import >(and there was no differences on the cd that I could tell, other than the >letters on the front were of a different colour, but then again, I only saw >the cd--I didn't look on the inside. Even the songs were the same). I >personally got mine for $7, bargained down from $10 (hey, I was unemployed at >the time and had to borrow the money in the first place!) at Mole Records in >Cincinnati. > >--Suzanne-- > Hi Suzanne: Does Walnut Hills High School ring a bell. That's where I went to High School in Cincinnati before you were born, I might add!!! I appreciate your comments and suggestions. Next month when the Eagle flies I'll be in a better position to BUY things. I'm still saving for the premium on my car insurace which comes due in August. Do they still make Hudepohl in Zinzinnati? Vas you effer vas in Zinzinnati? I did love that City. Left it in 1940 never to return. Went on the Northwestern. Never graduated. I now quit getting caught up on my emails. I am just too damn popular. Thanks to everyone. Aged Frank Wheeler ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:33:15 -0700 From: Frank Wheeler Subject: Re: Alloy: The New Round of Introductions At 10:24 AM 6/24/97 -0400, you wrote: >Hi, folks; > >Frank said: > >>Thanks for the welcome, and now I am in a quandary, somewhat. >> >>Right now, I am just not sure as to my selection. I'll submit it to a >>roll-call. I'll count the votes; all in favor of Retro say Aye, all in favor >>of Flat Earth say Buy and I'll pick the winner! Those lurking in the shadows >>can cast a vote. I'm honest. > >Well, maybe some people just have to be different, but my top >recommendation would actually be for "The Gate to the Mind's Eye." Based >on Frank's love of the stuff on the Headspace web site, and his love of big >band (think "Nuvogue"), I suspect that it is what he would enjoy the most. >But Retrospectacle and Flat Earth are not bad choices either -- I >particularly think that you would enjoy the title track of the latter. > >However, here is another thought to help Frank make his decision. Frank, >if one of us were to download and send you (via e-mail) a few sound or >video clips from the Flat Earth Society web site, do you think you would be >able to play them? That way, you could try before you buy, so to speak. >All you need is: > >* An e-mail package that accepts binary files attached to the message >* PKZIP software for "unzipping" compressed files >* Software that will play audio and video (the specific audio format is >called "mpeg audio", and I know that it can be downloaded from someplace.) > >I just would hate to see you spend your hard-earned dollars on a CD that >you don't end up enjoying that much. (Of course, if you bought >"Retrospectacle" and didn't care for it, there are probably a few of us who >don't have it yet who'd be willing to buy it from you.) > >Oh, and I don't think that Algarve is on a CD yet. Anyone else here know >any more? > >Cheers, >Beth M. > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >Beth Meyer >School of Psychology Pager: +1-404-866-1362 >Georgia Institute of Technology FAX: +1-404-894-8905 >Atlanta, GA 30332-0170 bmeyer@psy.tfe.gatech.edu > http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gt9020a/ > > Hi to Beth (and the rest of the gang) I repeat your comments and offer:- (these just arrived from Beth) >However, here is another thought to help Frank make his decision. Frank, >if one of us were to download and send you (via e-mail) a few sound or >video clips from the Flat Earth Society web site, do you think you would be >able to play them? That way, you could try before you buy, so to speak. >All you need is: > >* An e-mail package that accepts binary files attached to the message >* PKZIP software for "unzipping" compressed files >* Software that will play audio and video (the specific audio format is >called "mpeg audio", and I know that it can be downloaded from someplace.) I have Eudora. I have received once in the past an attachment. It downloaded itself. I then opened it. It was a .wav sound bit. A cartoon character. Speedy. And I was able to play it. I have unzipping abilities and a Wizard that helps in the installation. I have many audio and video things. I am uncertain about "mpeg audio". I am sure it can be downloaded. But if I could just get back to the Headspace Site ( which I just did and it's not the site I had in mind.) When I first arrived on the scene somebody in Alloy did provide a URL but I have not been able to find the particular email with the address mentioned. The Site was devoted to TD. My reception of it was poor. My reply to Sam told why. I just emailed a reply to Sam which means the rest of you will read it too. Can anyone answer this question? Again this seems to go out broadside. I hope I understand the process. What a friendly group. I'll leave you all something when I die, like my computer debt. Ha!. But what an investment. Right? Thanks Frank Wheeler (of San Diego) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:58:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Re: Alloy: Duke Nukem!? On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Lee Jackson wrote: > On Mon, 23 Jun 1997 00:16:32 +0100 (BST), you wrote: > > >Maybe it's time we asked everyone for a few lines about > >themselves again. > > Real Name: Lee Jackson > Tap Room Alias: none > Age: 33 > Employed as: Music and Sound Director, Apogee Software/3D Realms. I > do music and sound effects for games like Duke Nukem 3D, Shadow > Warrior, and (coming soon) Prey. Lee, do I have *you* to thank for the fact that my husband goes around humming that tune and saying "Time to kick ass and chew gum. Damn. All outta gum. BLAM!BLAM!BLAM!" ;) (This drives me insane. In-sane.) Write a tune for a game that's about cosmetics, tampons, or something else stereotypically female. That way I can get back at him. :P (Don't laugh.. if marketers are smart they'll start having feminine products sponsor stuff like Bowl games. Can you see the Kotex Bowl? Mary Kay presents? it could work.) - -- Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:52:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Re: Alloy: Fwd for Frank On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Frank Wheeler wrote: > I am going to buy 'Retrospecticle'. Sounds great. Is $13.99 a good or a bad > price for the CD. I researched it at Wherehouse. That's not a bad price, Frank. Some stores are still charging $17-18 for CD's. Music clubs are cheaper (Consumer Reports says you average $5-6 each, after shipping, I think), but they tend to have only "mainstream" artists. I know I've seen Retrospectacle from BMG, but I don't know what other TD selections they might offer. - -- Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 22:00:21 -0400 (EDT) From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Alloy: new Alloy introductions It's really nice getting to read people's intros. Even though I've been in here a while, there's a lot I never knew about some of the people here! Following Slarvi's layout, here's mine: REAL NAME: Robin Thurlow TAP ROOM CODE NAME: Robin xx AGE: 29 WORK: at a violin shop in Boston. There are two college-age kids working in my department for the summer who have never even heard of The Clash!!! INTERESTS: music, reading, 2-D design, Jhonen Vasquez' comics and Winsor McCay's comics too!, anthropology, Medieval embroidery, early music instrument making, trying to figure out how to sightread whilst mangling Breval on the cello, etc etc etc. MUSIC: Dolby, Rasputina (who really ought to get together with Dolby), The Clash, Siouxie, Nick Cave, Scott Joplin, Mahler, Saint-Saens, scary movie soundtracks, etc etc etc AWESOME MOVIE: Predator! HUSBAND: Dave, a painter, computer wizard and theoretical physics/hypercube aficionato, who is also in Alloy; married for nearly 6 happy years!!! and a quick NEWS FLASH before Dave needs the computer: I just found out that Gerald Scarfe, who is one of my all-time favorite illustrators (he did the animation for Pink Floyd's The Wall) designed all the characters for the new Disney movie Hercules! WOW! Must go. Robin :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 18:54:08 -0700 From: Frank Wheeler Subject: Re: Alloy: Fwd for Frank At 04:52 PM 6/24/97 -0700, you wrote: > > >On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Frank Wheeler wrote: >> I am going to buy 'Retrospecticle'. Sounds great. Is $13.99 a good or a bad >> price for the CD. I researched it at Wherehouse. > >That's not a bad price, Frank. Some stores are still charging $17-18 for >CD's. Music clubs are cheaper (Consumer Reports says you average $5-6 >each, after shipping, I think), but they tend to have only "mainstream" >artists. I know I've seen Retrospectacle from BMG, but I don't know what >other TD selections they might offer. > >-- >Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) > Thanks Elaine. I now know a lot more how to go about buying a CD. I don't even have a stereo. I did but I left it in Mexico with an orphanage when I came up north to San Diego in '94 after about 7 years retirement in Mexico. It was a Radio Shack 8-track with turn-table. Not worth the effort to take it with me back to the States. I'm glad to be back home. I gave the boys and girls an old TRS80 Model 4P bought in '84 and defunct in '91. There is a Radio Shack center down there who might get it back in service but I chose not to go that route. So I've gone from 'trash'DOS to Windows in one fell swoop. I'll take Windows 95. great. I never have been exposed to MSDOS. I also gave the Fathers a 21 inch RCA Color TV, really nice. I could not take much in my Wagon when I came back up north. So there you have me, thanking you and giving the group a little more info about my retired life. Did any of you see the match on HBO this day between Chang and Woodford? One of the very best I have ever seen. Chang was this . close. They both are winners in my book. Until Frank Wheeler ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 20:39:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Alloy: Here's my bio My gosh, what a diverse group we have here. I knew it, but I still found myself surprised. Techies, musicians, artists, secretaries, students.. cool. Name: Elaine Linstruth TapRoom Handle: Don't have one, open to suggestions Age: Will be 30 around Halloween (sigh) From: Grew up a Navy brat; A transplanted US east-coast girl; left Washington DC and now lost in the Mohave Desert of CA. Stuff that's most likely different than you: I live in a house with a stucco facade and a red clay roof. It has been 95+ degrees Farenheit every day since late May. I haven't seen rain since February, 1997. My mid50-something parents-in-law live separately in a pseudo-alternative California lifestyle but remain legally married. I live 3,000 miles from my Mommy. This is both good and bad. Dolby: My boyfriend (now husband) had TGAOW and AAMB, and bought The Flat Earth for me for my birthday that year. (In a used bin for $8, how lucky.) My occupation was a convention planner. My first travel assignment in the field was a weeklong convention in Las Vegas in early 1993. Right before leaving, I bought A&H (hadn't heard a thing off of it, just knew it was the new TMDR and that's good enough). After the convention, I rented a car and drove around the desert, down to Arizona & such.. for a couple days before flying home. While out there I heard ILYG, and it has had a special place in my mind ever since. Not sure why! Maybe there truly is something about driving alone, too fast, in the desert, being 25, smoking lots of cigarettes, and listening to too-loud music. Anyway, I stopped working when I had Elizabeth (AKA Pookie), and we moved west. Stopped smoking, too. Other music: many of the same ones you all have mentioned. Pookie likes The Flat Earth and "Is This Love" by Bob Marley. I can't wait for the Raffi bit to start. What do you figure are the odds that TMDR would write a childrens' album? Movies: The Princess Bride is my favorite, I think. I also like those endlessly-quotable movies, like Smokey & the Bandit, Pulp Fiction, or Fast Times at Ridgemont High. Food weakness: chocolate with almonds Favorite cocktails: Tanqueray, 7&7's and good british ales & stouts Hobbies: watching satellite TV, esp. my old Washington ABC station; IRC (come see me at irc.qnet.com); doing baby girl stuff I'm sure that's more than you wanted to know. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 04:52:48 GMT From: ljackson@intex.net (Lee Jackson) Subject: Re: Alloy: Duke Nukem!? On Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:58:22 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: >Lee, do I have *you* to thank for the fact that my husband goes around >humming that tune and saying "Time to kick ass and chew gum. Damn. All >outta gum. BLAM!BLAM!BLAM!" ;) (This drives me insane. In-sane.) I'm the one responsible for the song (most likely - Bobby Prince also wrote for this game, but the theme song is mine). However, the voice is that of San Diego (?) DJ Jon St. John, and Bobby Prince did the work on his voice files. >Write a tune for a game that's about cosmetics, tampons, or something=20 >else stereotypically female. That way I can get back at him. :P Hey, I use feminine rage to help me come up with stuff like the Duke 3D theme. When my wife fires off at me and really gets me p*ssed, that's when I write some of my best music. (Interesting question raised here - has this ever happened to Thomas? Which songs?) >(Don't laugh.. if marketers are smart they'll start having feminine=20 >products sponsor stuff like Bowl games. Can you see the Kotex Bowl? =20 >Mary Kay presents? it could work.) Don't get me started on this one. I have a sick mind, and it's against the law in several states to encourage me to use it. ;-) // Lee Jackson (ljackson@intex.net) // Music and Sound Director // Apogee Software, Ltd. & 3D Realms Entertainment ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 22:51:33 -0700 (PDT) From: cekemp@netcom.com (Charles E. Kemp) Subject: Alloy: Yet another bio... Name: Charles E. "Chuck" Kemp Hometown: Morgantown, IN Occupation: Unemployed salesman, PT meat clerk Age: 27 in 23 days (July 16) Education: College drop-out, Ball State University, Muncie IN Hobbies: Reading Joseph Wambaugh, Frank Herbert, nonfiction on the Classical period. Basketball junkie (sue me, I'm a HOOSIER.). Gardening, geeking out over home appliances (they really are interesting! honest!). IRC addict (#depeche and #hottub denizen, EFnet). The Music: Pet Shop Boys, Depeche Mode, Laurie Anderson, Eric Clapton, Front 242, Morrissey, Alison Moyet, Peter Murphy, NIN, Robert Palmer, the Police, Sisters of Mercy, New Order, Electronic, The Smiths, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Carly Simon, They Might Be Giants, Boomtown Rats/Geldof, Pink Floyd, Gustav Holst, Aaron Copland, George Gershwin, Ray Lynch, and of course TMDR. Oh, and Dwight Yoakam. What I won't listen to: the Beatles. The most overrated human beings since Judas Iscariot won the Best Disciple Competition of AD 31. Rap. Death metal. Glam rock. Grunge. Ok, pretty much anything that gets airplay in central IN. Movies: Anything that has Steve Martin in it, especially my all time fave, LA Story. War movies, Bogey, 007, Star Wars, Schwarzenegger, Blade Runner, John hughes teenybopper movies (esp Some Kind of Wonderful), Spartacus, Ben Hur, Glenn Close. What I won't watch: Oliver Stone conspiracy crap, Uma thurman, Meryl Streep, Michelle Pfeiffer, John Travolta, Tarantino films, Cher, Richard Gere, Warren Beatty. TV: Trashy tabloid shows and talk shows, News, I Claudius, Home Improvement, MASH, Barney Miller, Columbo, Banacek, Lovejoy, Star Trek, MST3K, and too much that I can't even think of at the moment. And what I won't tune in to: Seinfeld. That's about it. speaks volumes, eh? And my philosophies on life... If it moos, oinks, or baaaahs, eat it. if it clucks then run screaming. Dislike a lot of things, it makes you savor your passions all the more. Deny that happiness is open as an option and disappointment disappears overnight. (thanks to Neil Tennant) When in doubt, get the hell out. Never chase buses or women, you always get left behind. That which does not kill me puts me in the hospital for a few months. It's better to be dead and cool than alive and uncool. Mean people rule. People with "mean people suck" bumper stickers suck. Your kid's on the honor roll because everyone is on the honor roll, just to keep from hurting anyone's feelings. This is your brain. This is your brain on drugs. compare that to my brain. Now my brain on drugs. See? I'm too f*cked to bother with drugs. Only in America can a high school dropout serve for over a decade on the school board. (local joke) Software Piracy isn't piracy if it's a Microsoft product. OK, that's enough. :) ****** Charles E. Kemp ****** cekemp@netcom.com ****** (812) 597-5950 ****** Just for the sake of it make sure you're always frowning, it shows the world that you've got substance and depth. - Neil Tennant ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 08:40:24 From: Neil Leacy Subject: Re: Alloy: Catching Up Again... Other uses for cd's... Glue two together (label side to label side). Drill a tiny hole near the outside edge. Tie to a length of string. Add more cd's. String out over your prize strawberry, pumpkin or cabbage patch and voila! The perfect bird scarer. Carry one around as a novel compact mirror for those discrete touch ups of the hair, etc. (Also a great conversation starter along the lines of "Hey, you may be vain, but you've obviously got a great taste in music!") Things you still can't do with cd's that you could with lp's... Look at the pattern of the grooves and recognise what the music is without hearing it - and yes I have seen this done! Regards, Neil Leacy IT Support (nleacy@it-excelsior.britax.co.uk) ==================================================================== For further information on child car seats designed and produced by Britax-Excelsior visit our web pages at http://www.britax.co.uk/ ==================================================================== ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V2 #124 ***************************