From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V2 #93 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Friday, May 23 1997 Volume 02 : Number 093 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: Serious about t-shirts? ["Stephen M. Tilson" <71160.307@CompuServe] Re: Alloy: Serious about t-shirts? [Steven McDonald ] Re: Alloy: Serious about t-shirts? [RThurF@aol.com] RE: Alloy: Serious about t-shirts? ["James E. Hartman" ] Alloy: As-it-comes or Digest [Neil Leacy ] Alloy: Oops! [Paul Baily ] Re: Alloy: As-it-comes or Digest [Paul Baily ] Re: Alloy: T-shirts etc ["Melissa R. Jordan" ] Re: Alloy: T-shirts etc [Neil Leacy ] Re: Alloy: T-shirts etc [Croydon ] Alloy: Wickedly crucial ["Melissa R. Jordan" ] Re: Alloy: Wickedly crucial Mark Almond [Bill Hargreaves ] Re: Alloy: Wickedly crucial [Steven McDonald ] Re: Alloy: Wickedly crucial ["Melissa R. Jordan" ] Alloy: Hooked on Phonics ["Melissa R. Jordan" ] Re: Alloy: Wickedly crucial ["MEYER,ANN ELIZABETH" ] Re: Alloy: Serious about t-shirts? [Paul Baily ] Re: Alloy: Serious about t-shirts? [DThurkirk@aol.com] Re: Alloy: T-shirts etc [DThurkirk@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Dirty Datsuns [Elaine Linstruth ] Re: Alloy: T-shirts etc [Elaine Linstruth ] Re: Alloy: T-shirts etc [Elaine Linstruth ] Re: Alloy: One of our Trench Coats [Elaine Linstruth ] Alloy: omnipresent fructose [Brian Clayton ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 22 May 97 04:36:14 EDT From: "Stephen M. Tilson" <71160.307@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Alloy: Serious about t-shirts? Dear Team, I have pondered the Alloy t-shirtless issue too, and have concluded that if we are SERIOUS about it, I would be happy to produce same for our enjoyment, and to confound the un-initiated . I have a friend in the custom t-shirt biz, so it would be but little effort for me to accomplish this task. It only remains to be seen if we can AGREE on a design, and COMMIT to buying them, as there is a minimum and I do not wish to be left holding the bag (of unclaimed shirts). The cost would be modest; I estimate they could be produced in a variety of styles and sizes from tanks to scoop-neck to crew-neck short sleeve 100% cotton for less than $15.00 US plus shipping. We could make a few sweatshirts too . . . So, perhaps we should explore the design issue more closely, tabulating votes and the ideas they represent. Quite a few are in already. Of course, I've had a few ideas come to me as well, so if you please ... A L L O Y We Make A Crucial Team For A Dying World -or- A L L O Y Switch Off The Mind And Let The Heart Decide Coupled with, hopefully, a graphic image taken (with permission, Thomas) from the Dolbynalia we are so fond of, placed above this lettering on the left upper breast. And of course, FRUIT JUICE EVERYWHERE! On the back. Show us your interest, and I will research the wherewithal. Best regards, Stephen "Miles" Tilson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 01:58:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Steven McDonald Subject: Re: Alloy: Serious about t-shirts? On 22 May 1997, Stephen M. Tilson wrote: > upper breast. And of course, > > FRUIT JUICE EVERYWHERE! > > On the back. > > Show us your interest, and I will research the wherewithal. > I'm in ;-) - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 07:17:23 -0400 (EDT) From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Serious about t-shirts? I would definitely buy at least one t-shirt! Shall we establish a deadline by which we must choose quotes for the shirts? Who would handle the actual design of it (typeface, colors etc)??? Robin :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 06:36:09 -0500 From: "James E. Hartman" Subject: RE: Alloy: Serious about t-shirts? On Thursday, May 22, 1997 03:36, Stephen M. Tilson [SMTP:71160.307@CompuServe.COM] wrote: > Of course, I've had a few ideas come to me as well, so if you please ... > > A L L O Y > We Make A Crucial Team > For A Dying World I like that quote too. So many quotes, so little time... Count me in on the group that'll pony up some cash for a shirt. - -- James E. Hartman | Austin, Texas | http://www.eden.com/~jhartman "A stick is your friend." --The Brain ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 07:42:15 -0400 (EDT) From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re:(cont'd) Alloy: Serious about t-shirts? one design idea is to compile a list of terms from different languages which all mean "alloy", or combination, and use them as a sort of out-of-focus background over which the main quote is placed. We might also think about using a map or globe somewhere in the design to reflect the world-wide nature of Alloy. Some main quote ideas (serious or otherwise): "The Elements in Harmony" "Etch Out a Future of Your Own Design" "It Cost Me Ten Dollars" Robin :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 07:51:54 -0400 (EDT) From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: murky background I think the background on the cover of Golden Age of Wireless shows the hospital where all the deranged scientists go to live out their days. . .the antiqued magazine "Golden Age of Wireless" being perhaps one of their reading materials. Robin :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 12:49:29 +0100 From: Croydon Subject: Alloy: T-shirts etc On Thursday, May 22, 1997 03:36, Mr Tilson wrote: > Of course, I've had a few ideas come to me as well, so if you please ... > > A L L O Y > We Make A Crucial Team > For A Dying World I don't think I'd buy anything with the word 'crucial' on it, myself. Sorry. But otherwise I'm keen and promise to buy one (if I can work out how to pay in US Dollars from London). I know we're overflowing with suggested quotes, but I particularly like: "I'm only humanoid" Lem. *The views expressed in this e-mail message *are not those of the Croydon Borough Council *http://www.croydon.gov.uk/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 13:26:49 From: Neil Leacy Subject: Alloy: As-it-comes or Digest Hi Paul, I've joined the digest version of the list but I'm still getting the as-it-comes version as well. I thought I'd resigned the latter. Can you help... Regards, Neil Leacy IT Support (nleacy@it-excelsior.britax.co.uk) ==================================================================== For further information on child car seats designed and produced by Britax-Excelsior visit our web pages at http://www.britax.co.uk/ ==================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 13:24:25 From: Neil Leacy Subject: Re: Alloy: Serious about t-shirts? >On 22 May 1997, Stephen M. Tilson wrote: > >> upper breast. And of course, >> >> FRUIT JUICE EVERYWHERE! >> >> On the back. >> >> Show us your interest, and I will research the wherewithal. >> >I'm in ;-) I still prefer the earlier, equation suggestion... Regards, Neil Leacy IT Support (nleacy@it-excelsior.britax.co.uk) ==================================================================== For further information on child car seats designed and produced by Britax-Excelsior visit our web pages at http://www.britax.co.uk/ ==================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 97 22:41:10 +1000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Alloy: check who who alloy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 97 22:46:55 +1000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Alloy: Oops! Hi y'all, Abject apologies for that list command going to the list like that, got my addresses all mixed up in the excitement(?). Really must try and get the hang of this sleep thing... stay well, Paul. ________________________________________________________________________ Paul Baily paulb@thehub.com.au Consulting SE/IT contractor http://www.thehub.com.au/~paulb Brisbane, Australia There is a spirit here that won't be broken. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 97 22:56:42 +1000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Re: Alloy: As-it-comes or Digest G'day Neil (and all) >I've joined the digest version of the list but I'm still getting the >as-it-comes version as well. I thought I'd resigned the latter. Can you >help... Certainly sir, in fact you should be getting an unsubscribe message from the server shortly for the live alloy list. For anyone else, if you want to hop over to the digest version and are at all unsure on how to do it, don't hesitate to get in touch with me at paulb@thehub.com.au cheers, Paul. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 09:57:36 -0400 From: "Melissa R. Jordan" Subject: Re: Alloy: T-shirts etc At 12:49 PM 5/22/97 +0100, Croydon wrote: (Re: Sievelike Brain quote on t-shirt) >I don't think I'd buy anything with the word 'crucial' on it, myself. >Sorry. Croydon, sorry if I'm being obtuse, but... I have to ask - what's wrong with the word 'crucial'? Thanks for the enlightenment. Melissa - ------------------- Melissa R. Jordan - ------------------- Special Projects Manager International Programs Office Goodwill Industries International, Inc. (301) 881-6858 (phone) (301) 881-9435 (fax) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 13:42:13 From: Neil Leacy Subject: Re: Alloy: T-shirts etc Hi Lem, and all other UK Alloy members, >I don't think I'd buy anything with the word 'crucial' on it, myself. >Sorry. But otherwise I'm keen and promise to buy one (if I can work out >how to pay in US Dollars from London). I'd like to volunteer coordinating any UK/US money transaction i.e. collection, conversion and sending off. I quite often buy stuff from the US and can get a good exchange from our accounts department (and I don't have to pay a handling fee). Also there's a new international money system that the Post Office have introduced which I can look into. Email me if you're interested. Regards, Neil Leacy IT Support (nleacy@it-excelsior.britax.co.uk) ==================================================================== For further information on child car seats designed and produced by Britax-Excelsior visit our web pages at http://www.britax.co.uk/ ==================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 15:09:47 +0100 From: Croydon Subject: Re: Alloy: T-shirts etc At 09:57 22/5/97 -0400, you wrote: >Croydon, sorry if I'm being obtuse, but... I have to ask - what's wrong with >the word 'crucial'? Well, you know what they say, if you have to ask, you're part of the problem. Actually, 'Crucial' is a word, like 'wicked', that has taken on a really naff, wide-boy, prats-in-a-bespoilered-BMW-with-the-pumping-bass-shaking-your-teeth-out type image. At least here in London it has. Crucial on the shirt would make it about as cool a fashion statement as a shirt that said "My mum's a fan of Thomas Dolby and all she got me was this Lousy T-shirt." *We'd* know it was a cool Dolby lyric, but no-one else would. BTW, I trump your Gillian Anderson with Alan Rickman, who I just bumped into on Oxford Street. L. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 11:05:18 -0400 From: "Melissa R. Jordan" Subject: Alloy: Wickedly crucial Sorry to hear that 'crucial' has been handed the same cruel fate as 'wicked.' Yeesh. At 03:09 PM 5/22/97 +0100, Croydon wrote: >BTW, I trump your Gillian Anderson with Alan Rickman, who I just bumped >into on Oxford Street. Wow! I'll trade you! I love Alan Rickman!! Very cool. Here's one of my favorite strange London/brush with fame/celebrities of 80's music stories: One afternoon, after classes were over at the LSE, I had wondered down to Covent Garden (wanted some goodies from the Transport Museum.) I decided to stop in a nearby pub and have some cider, yum, yum, yum. I was standing at a little table outside - there were two sweaty workmen in coveralls at the next table. While we stood there, a rail thin, ultra pale guy dressed entirely in tight black leather strolled by and stopped to look in a shop window. Here's the running commentary from the workmen: #1: Oi! Isn't that Marc Almond from Soft Cell? #2: Yeah, don't he look like crap. #1: Think he's on drugs? #2: Look at how thin he is. Must be. #1: OI! MARC ALMOND! (Mr. Almond spins around) YOU LOOK LIKE CRAP! Poor Marc Almond, a puzzled look on his face, just smiled halfheartedly, kinda half-waved at the guys, and continued on his way, shaking his head and shrugging his shoulders as he went. (And Workman #1 used a more colorful term than 'crap.' In the interest of public decency, though, [and in case Senator Exon is reading my mail], I thought I'd clean it up a bit.) That's one of those moments when you realize just how much it must stink sometimes to be a celebrity. You can't exactly get into someone's face when they rip you apart, unless you want to be across the headlines the next day. I really felt sorry for him! (He *didn't* look very healthy, though.) Okay, back to the Pit of Ultimate Despair (tm.) Cheers, Melissa (first newspaper headline I saw when I moved to London: "George Michael Vomits On Date!") - ------------------- Melissa R. Jordan - ------------------- Special Projects Manager International Programs Office Goodwill Industries International, Inc. (301) 881-6858 (phone) (301) 881-9435 (fax) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 16:27:50 +0100 (BST) From: Bill Hargreaves Subject: Re: Alloy: Wickedly crucial Mark Almond At 11:05 22/05/97 -0400, you wrote: > >That's one of those moments when you realize just how much it must stink >sometimes to be a celebrity. You can't exactly get into someone's face when >they rip you apart, unless you want to be across the headlines the next day. >I really felt sorry for him! (He *didn't* look very healthy, though.) > Agggghhhhh. You've hit my Achille's Nerve or Sore Heal or something similar. Marc Almond. Hate him. Vehemently. I used to be indifferent to him and thought he was just crap, but then I had the misfortune to see him being interviewed on TV about music (other people's) and his main comment was that ALL music was crap except his own. This was said in all seriousness and from that moment on I've had no time at all for the opinionated little shit (pardon my French). So say hello, wave goodbye. BH ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 10:29:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Alloy: My 2 cents I would buy at least two XL shirts, no matter what they say. I'd even pay for a baby-sized one if it could be made.. but since I might be the only one that's probably not possible. All I ask is that we pay for good quality shirts, even if it does cost a little extra. Cheap t-shirts really suck. I must say I'm kinda partial still to the 2+2=5.25 idea. Bill's Marc Almond story reminds me of Jewel.. I've seen her interviewed twice and both times she appears to be an arrogant little snot, whom too many people have fawned over. She is convinced that her ability to strum and write one song is an enormous talent. (I have her album and every song sounds exactly like the others -- it's as if she has written one song and changes the outward appearance & calls it another and another. I personally find it unlistenable. Good thing it was a freebie from BMG or I'd be pissed.) - -- Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 11:38:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Steven McDonald Subject: Re: Alloy: Wickedly crucial On Thu, 22 May 1997, Melissa R. Jordan wrote: > > Poor Marc Almond, a puzzled look on his face, just smiled halfheartedly, > kinda half-waved at the guys, and continued on his way, shaking his head and > shrugging his shoulders as he went. > That's funny, just about the first thing I remember after waking up this morning was looking at my Soft Cell/Marc Almond Singles collection CD.... coincidence? I think not.... ;-) - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 15:40:24 -0400 From: "Melissa R. Jordan" Subject: Re: Alloy: Wickedly crucial At 11:38 AM 5/22/97 -0700, Steve wrote: >That's funny, just about the first thing I remember after waking up this >morning was looking at my Soft Cell/Marc Almond Singles collection CD.... >coincidence? I think not.... Heh. Well, I've had "Tainted Love" going through my head all morning. Had to call a friend who was my boss in Moscow - once we had a shipment of Argentine beef for the commissary due to arrive by air on such-and-such date. I had to go out to the airport, meet the flight, and zoom the beef into the embassy before it could defrost. However, the Soviets were very annoyed with us that week (lord knows what we'd done!) and, as punishment, they hurried the beef off the plane and hid it in the depths of their warehouse system. (They'd done this to me before - just ask me about the Passover seder food and the corpses!) By the time I'd located it, the beef was not suitable for human consumption. On my way back to the embassy, I had figure out how to explain what had happened. In my head, I drafted new lyrics to "Tainted Love" for the occasion. The new song, "Tainted Meat," was very popular in my office for a while (especially with my boss, the vegetarian, who felt this was divine retribution for eating cattle, anyway.) She still has the lyric sheet I typed up. All I can remember now is: "Don't touch that beef! Or it will give you gastic grief! Tainted meat! Oh-oh-oh-oh! Tainted meat!" etc., etc. Yeah, it's sick. Cheers, Melissa, not in the running for a Grammy - ------------------- Melissa R. Jordan - ------------------- Special Projects Manager International Programs Office Goodwill Industries International, Inc. (301) 881-6858 (phone) (301) 881-9435 (fax) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 15:47:58 -0400 From: "Melissa R. Jordan" Subject: Alloy: Hooked on Phonics No wonder I lost that spelling bee in third grade. I have no idea what "gastic grief" is, but "gastRic grief" is what you'd get from eating tainted beef (along with plenty of other nasty things, surely.) Yours in poor spelling, Melissa (got my name right) - ------------------- Melissa R. Jordan - ------------------- Special Projects Manager International Programs Office Goodwill Industries International, Inc. (301) 881-6858 (phone) (301) 881-9435 (fax) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 16:13:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "MEYER,ANN ELIZABETH" Subject: Re: Alloy: Wickedly crucial Hi, folks; > That's funny, just about the first thing I remember after waking up this > morning was looking at my Soft Cell/Marc Almond Singles collection CD.... > coincidence? I think not.... > > ;-) Well, while we're on the subject of coincidences and the Alloy list... Remember the earlier comment that, should we live long enough, we could sing the line as "we're in continent in continent" (etc.) ? Well, it just so happens that the experiment that is keeping me holed up in the lab all day (and unable to write more than very brief messages) is a cognitive aging study. So, when I read the "in continent" lines, I was about two feet away from six retirees working away at the computer-based tasks I'd given them. Fortunately, I'm good at muffling laughter. Gotta go, Beth ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 13:16:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Monya De Subject: RE: Alloy: Serious about t-shirts? I'd buy one too... Monya ps. We should vote on the picture/color issue. It could bring down the price substantially. Faisan 202 Stanford University Mailing: P.O. Box 13503 Stanford, CA 94309 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 14:27:27 -0700 (PDT) From: cekemp@netcom.com (Charles E. Kemp) Subject: Re: Alloy: Wickedly crucial > "Don't touch that beef! Or it will give you gastic grief! > Tainted meat! Oh-oh-oh-oh! Tainted meat!" etc., etc. > > Yeah, it's sick. > I dunno, not really any sicker than the time I split my eyebrow open while ice skating in Ann Arbor and making up new lyrics for New Order's "Round & Round" while riding to the hospital, dealing with the event. Needless to say, due to the impact I wasn't right in the head. ****** Charles E. Kemp ****** cekemp@netcom.com ****** (812) 597-5950 ****** Just for the sake of it make sure you're always frowning, it shows the world that you've got substance and depth. - Neil Tennant ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 22:14:21 GMT From: ljackson@intex.net (Lee Jackson) Subject: Re: Alloy: Serious about t-shirts? On 22 May 97 04:36:14 EDT, you wrote: >I have pondered the Alloy t-shirtless issue too, and have concluded that= if=20 >we are SERIOUS about it, I would be happy to produce same for our = enjoyment,=20 >and to confound the un-initiated . Count me in. >It only remains to be seen if we can AGREE on a design, and COMMIT to = buying=20 >them, as there is a minimum and I do not wish to be left holding the bag= (of=20 >unclaimed shirts). I'd buy. How about slapping up a web page with a quick and dirty form for voting? Include a slot for e-mail addresses, so we can verify that only Alloy member votes are counted. > A L L O Y > Switch Off The Mind > And Let The Heart Decide Possibly. I'd nominate a couple of others for the spot below the "Alloy" name: "A Spirit that Won't Be Broken", "Try to Think of Nothing", and "Dirty Datsun Driving Club". >Coupled with, hopefully, a graphic image taken (with permission, Thomas)= from=20 >the Dolbynalia we are so fond of, placed above this lettering on the = left=20 >upper breast. I'd like this, but if you'll permit one more suggestion: use the album cover art from the first release of The Golden Age of Wireless (TMDR on a big stage), put the word ALLOY across the top, and whatever phrase we pick in the black part at the bottom. 'Twould frame well, eh? > And of course, > > FRUIT JUICE EVERYWHERE! > >On the back. High marks from me on this idea! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 18:33:12 -0400 (EDT) From: MsSakamoto@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Serious about t-shirts? I'd be in for a shirt as well, seeing as I just started a new job and can now afford nifty things like t-shirts! - --Suzanne-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 18:37:13 -0400 (EDT) From: MsSakamoto@aol.com Subject: Re: (cont'd) Alloy: Serious about t-shirts? In a message dated 97-05-22 13:00:21 EDT, RThurF@aol.com writes: > "It Cost Me Ten Dollars" I just have to say that I love that! - --Suzanne-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 16:26:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Steven McDonald Subject: Re: Alloy: Serious about t-shirts? On Thu, 22 May 1997, Lee Jackson wrote: > > Possibly. I'd nominate a couple of others for the spot below the > "Alloy" name: "A Spirit that Won't Be Broken", "Try to Think of > Nothing", and "Dirty Datsun Driving Club". ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Up until a couple of months ago when it dies, I was driving a dirty datsun ;-) (forest green, '78 810 station wagon, paint peeling and a constant layer of dirt) > > > > FRUIT JUICE EVERYWHERE! > > > >On the back. > > High marks from me on this idea! > This seems to be fairly universal. - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 May 97 09:41:24 +1000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Re: Alloy: Serious about t-shirts? In last night's episode, we heard Lee Jackson say: >I'd buy. How about slapping up a web page with a quick and dirty form >for voting? Include a slot for e-mail addresses, so we can verify >that only Alloy member votes are counted. Okay, give me a few minutes here and I'll see what I can throw together (work permitting). cheers, Paul. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 20:22:50 -0400 (EDT) From: DThurkirk@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Serious about t-shirts? In a message dated 5/22/97 7:24:27 AM, you wrote: <> I think it would be interesting if anyone who'd care to do the design work might do a few roughs and we could distribute them among Alloy and deside which is the best liked....I'd definatly buy a T-Shirt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 20:29:17 -0400 (EDT) From: DThurkirk@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: T-shirts etc You know I am so not hip that I can't recall ever having heard the word "crucial" used outside of its proper context. I have got to leave this room more often or at least start watching TV. - --Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 17:59:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Re: Alloy: Dirty Datsuns >> Possibly. I'd nominate a couple of others for the spot below the >> "Alloy" name: "A Spirit that Won't Be Broken", "Try to Think of >> Nothing", and "Dirty Datsun Driving Club". ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Up until a couple of months ago when it dies, I was driving a dirty > datsun ;-) (forest green, '78 810 station wagon, paint peeling and a > constant layer of dirt) I dated a guy once with a car like that. We used to say, "don't wash it, the dirt is probably the only thing holding it together!" Sound familiar? :) - -- Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 18:02:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Re: Alloy: T-shirts etc On Thu, 22 May 1997 DThurkirk@aol.com wrote: > You know I am so not hip that I can't recall ever having heard the word > "crucial" used outside of its proper context. I have got to leave this room > more often or at least start watching TV. > > --Dave I was going to say the exact same thing, Dave. I have never heard "crucial" used gratuitously on any subject -- we both need to get out more. - -- Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 18:04:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Re: Alloy: T-shirts etc On Thu, 22 May 1997, Croydon wrote: > Well, you know what they say, if you have to ask, you're part of the > problem. Hm..actually, that's "if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem," isn't it.. - -- Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 19:27:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Re: Alloy: One of our Trench Coats > At 06:43 AM 5/7/97 EDT, Miles wrote: > > A good military uniform is designed to: look smart and orderly, awe the > enemy, and make the wearer look stronger and more impressive in general > (which doesn't explain those AWFUL uniforms designed for women in the U.S. > Navy, but that's another story...) The trenchcoat is definitely one of the > best elements of military style to make it to mainstream fashion. I think > women look quite smart in a good trenchcoat, too. It doesn't explain bell bottom denim hiphugging dungarees or the white bowler popeye hats on the males, either... although my husband (who did his 4 years) insists that there are very good reasons for those awful pants. Supposedly among them, you can tie the ends together and have a makeshift flotation device, or something like that. > >Which brings me long way around to my TMDR question. I have observed a > >distinctly military flavor to some of his early works, most notably "One Of > >Our Submarines Is Missing"... On Wednesday, May 7, 1997, Melissa wrote: > Agreed. And there are some folks out here who can shed light on the > "Submarines" issue for you. Hey Melissa, I'm among those who could use a little light on that subject ;) (that, or email me if you think it's too boring for the list). I know very few, if any, tales of TMDR songwriting inspiration. - -- Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 20:18:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Clayton Subject: Alloy: omnipresent fructose > FRUIT JUICE EVERYWHERE! Gee, everyone is going to think we're members of the Elizabeth Aumont Fan Club. :) BTW, I see at least a couple of dozen folks downloaded my flaterth.jpg file, but I haven't received any feedback. Did anyone like it? BC - --- Brian Clayton "So Zathrus talk to dirt...and to walls...and stemish@kumr.lns.com to ceiling--but dirt is closer." -- Zathrus ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V2 #93 **************************