From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V2 #3 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Saturday, January 4 1997 Volume 02 : Number 003 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Fwd: Re: Alloy: 1997ers Re: Alloy: 1997ers Fwd: Alloy: You're gonna be sorry you asked! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 08:56:45 -0500 (EST) From: Beth Meyer Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Alloy: 1997ers >I was contemplating what the ultimate TMDR song would have to contain and only got as far as a >reference to vaseline and a smattering of French. Help me out here! Hmmm...that's a little tough, since TMDR's lyrics tend to vary quite a bit in style from one song to another (part of why we love him, of course)... I would say, it would have to be a song about a very personal topic -- a romantic interlude, probably -- yet throw in some off-the-wall cultural reference, such as the structure of the DNA molecule or a Matisse exhibit. (The DNA reference would no doubt be in your honor, Mary :-). I would have picked a discovery from my own field, but "Fitts' Law" is just NOT sexy...) With any sort of >encouragement at all (even one email saying "Maybe I'd read it"!) I will indeed >transcribe it. I just fear that you folks find me insufferable (though I tend >to ascribe qualities such as acceptance, open-mindedness etc. with Dolby fans) >and don't want to stuff your mailbox with things you'd rather not read. > Please go ahead -- I certainly don't remember having seen it before. And I can safely say that there is NO-ONE on this list whom I find insufferable, least of all you, Mary. In fact, I find this list to be populated with some of the coolest people on the planet. I hope that 1997 is a great year for all of you! (Of course, if the rarities CD does come out, how could it be otherwise?) By the way, if any of you folks have home pages to which you'd like a pointer, please feel free to send me a note at my address below. I'd like to start a little "Thomas Dolby listening party" on my own home page. I'm already hoping to refer to Paul's & Lazslo's pages, but the more the merrier. (Of course, this may not actually happen for a while, but it doesn't hurt to collect the data!) Thanks and happy new year, Beth - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Beth Meyer School of Psychology Pager: +1-404-866-1362 Georgia Institute of Technology FAX: +1-404-894-8905 Atlanta, GA 30332-0170 bmeyer@psy.tfe.gatech.edu http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gt9020a/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:29:39 -0500 From: AlgieArch@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: 1997ers In a message dated 97-01-02 22:58:13 EST, you write: << Are you joking? You think we wouldn't want to read? Those of us unlucky enough to have never seen a Thomas concert live vicariously through you guys! :-) >> Absolutely !!!!!!!!! (Although, I try to avoid thinking of myself as unlucky) And please don't leave out any details. Additionally, I must say I am against the notion of a generic Dolby song. Having said that. The background details/ effects are critical. More Crickets! They help establish mood and place. The crackling thunder, a little rain, wow! I automaticallly pull up my collar. It really seems to reinforce his songs exceptionally well. ..." look down from the Hills", poof , I am there looking down into the back of nice modest white modern LA house. You see people arguing, one golden surfer Boy, a door slams... I think the difference is most writers start from a musical base and in a way are trapped by that. The Best of TMDR are his romantic moody pieces, for me. Or actually all of them where he succeeds in creating visual images and space in addition to the acoustic one. No videos needed. The book is almost always better than the movie. Algie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jan 97 13:46:02 +1000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Fwd: Alloy: You're gonna be sorry you asked! [Hi all, for some reason the server didn't feel like sending this out to you when Mary originally sent it so I'm forwarding on her behalf. Apologies for the delay. PB.] - ----------------- From: "Mary A. Brown" Reply-To: "Mary A. Brown" To: alloy@smoe.org Subject: You're gonna be sorry you asked! Greetings, fellow Dolbyphiles! I wanted to thank you all for the positive reinforcement and can't resist responding to the messages but will be considerate enough to do it all in one posting (that is, if the UK system hasn't decided to change my address on me yet again!) Elaine Linstruth wrote: > Are you joking? You think we wouldn't want to read? Those of us > unlucky enough to have never seen a Thomas concert live vicariously > through you guys! :-) Sorry to hear that, Elaine. I wouldn't wish that fate on anyone! Perhaps there's still hope though. Beth Meyer's response to the ultimate Dolby challenge: >Hmmm...that's a little tough, since TMDR's lyrics tend to vary quite >a bit in style from one song to another (part of why we love him, >of course)... I couldn't agree more! Thank heavens he fought the record company's desire for him to make "Science Part 2 to 10"! And with a bit more pondering, I figured there ought to be a reference to a brand name like Miller, Milky Way, Coldrex etc. >I would say, it would have to be a song about a very personal topic >-- a romantic interlude, probably -- yet throw in some off-the-wall >cultural reference, such as the structure of the DNA molecule >or a Matisse exhibit. Perhaps an exhibit from the Art Institute in Chicago since his stepmother used to work there! And a little tidbit which got me thinking about my relationship with my own PhD advisor, Louise was TMDR's father's grad student lo those many years before she became Mrs. Robertson. >(The DNA reference would no doubt be in your honor, Mary :-). > I would have picked a discovery from my own field, but "Fitts' Law" >is just NOT sexy...) Why thank you for that, Beth. Thomas doesn't seem particularly interested in biology though. Pity. I'd gladly be his personal tutor... >Please go ahead -- I certainly don't remember having seen it before. > And I can safely say that there is NO-ONE on this list whom I find >insufferable, least of all you, Mary. Beth, your check is in the mail!! >In fact, I find this list to be populated with some >of the coolest people on the planet. I second that! Algie wrote: >Absolutely !!!!!!!!! (Although, I try to avoid thinking of >myself as unlucky) >And please don't leave out any details. I'm so relieved to hear you say that because my account is full of them. Partly out of laziness but mostly to preserve the spirit in which I wrote it, I'm going to do little or no editing. So please be kind. /Indulgent/ even! >Additionally, I must say I am against the notion of a generic Dolby song. Well, yeah, it's not as though there could really be one. I was just more or less in a humorous way looking for those items which the fans are attached to or noticed. >Having said that. The background details/ effects are critical. > More Crickets! Ya got something against Buddy Holly? >I think the difference is most writers start from a musical base >and in a way are trapped by that. The Best of TMDR are his romantic >moody pieces, for me. Or actually all of them where he succeeds in >creating visual images and space in addition to the acoustic one. How true! That small cascade of notes on "Windpower" always make me think of sparks trailing from an exploded firework. And the string section of "Screen Kiss" where the musical tension is released has me picturing a skater coming out of a spin. And my beloved Paul Baily typed: >Ditto! Oh, and lets not forget that this very same Genetic Ingenue Though TMDR has sung, "There's no credit when no credit is due" (what in the hell cost him 10 dollars anyway?) for those who don't already know, this title was bestowed upon me by the terribly clever Brian Clayton. >once got hauled up on stage by TMDR mid-concert ...then looked at >her and said "Hey, I /know/ you don't I?" and then proceeded to >introduce /her/ to the crowd... While I'm extremely flattered by your blatant attempt to get me even /more/ attention, Paul, (hmm, it didn't work too terribly well, did it?) I feel compelled to set the record straight. I was hauled up onstage by our hero mid-/lecture/ and after he asked my name and where I was from, he replied, "Don't you know my father?". I like to think he didn't figure out who I was because I didn't fit the science geek stereotype - I had a modified mohawk back then. But Master Clayton has a much more recent experience he could share with us... More than enough blathering from me. With any luck, I'll get the Flat Earth tour description typed in this weekend and then scuttle back under my rock! Mary ___________________________________________________________________________ __ Mary A. Brown, Genetic Ingenue | Department of Biochemistry Phone: (606) 257-7349, -7039 | University of Kentucky Fax: (606) 323-1037 | 800 Rose St. E-mail: mabrown@pop.uky.edu | Lexington, KY 40536-0084 "I'm just a slow emotion replay of somebody I used to be" Matt Johnson ___________________________________________________________________________ __ ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V2 #3 *************************