From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V3 #336 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Tuesday, December 15 1998 Volume 03 : Number 336 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: Alloy: Little Announcement ["Ulfstedt, Louise" ] Alloy: Sad [John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com] Re: Re[2]: Alloy: Little Announcement [Tim_Dunn.JBA_HEATHROW.SPL_EXTERNAL] Re: Alloy: Redheads! [Kathleen McClelland ] Re: Alloy: Who Were You In The '80's? [Kathleen McClelland ] Re: Alloy: Who Were You In The '80's? [MacSuirtain ] Re: Alloy: Who Were You In The '80's? [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Sad [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Little Announcement [MacSuirtain ] Re: Alloy: Who Were You In The '80's? [MacSuirtain ] Alloy: Jungle Line [Rochelle Kirby <104040.2055@compuserve.com>] Re: Fwd: Alloy: Screen Kiss ["Keith Stansell" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 10:32:59 +0200 From: "Ulfstedt, Louise" Subject: RE: Alloy: Little Announcement Hi all! Gosh,...I won't even try to catch up with all the backlog, but I'd like to send my warmest greetings to all the newbies that have arrived whilst I've been lurking in the background,...welcome everyone,...nice to have you join our ranks!! Congrats Tim! And well done,...I empathise totally with the strains placed on couples due to their families being from different cultures,....but I really think if understanding can happen on that level, it's the best hope for all our futures,....! Wonderful news! And as you said, a bit of bloody-minded Yorkshireness can get you everywhere,..(well,...it got me up to Finland , didn't it??) In the meantime, I'm just going to sit here and sulk, because whilst you lot down under are enjoying the sun, I'm freezing my proverbials into numbness,...it was -12 centigrade this morning, and I really didn't want to come out from under my warm duvet,......sigh! P.S. Slarv,...that snowball got me right betwixt me eyes,.....I'm going to get you for that,..... > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim_Dunn.JBA_HEATHROW.SPL_EXTERNAL@jba.co.uk > [SMTP:Tim_Dunn.JBA_HEATHROW.SPL_EXTERNAL@jba.co.uk] > Sent: 11 December 1998 17:48 > To: alloy@smoe.org > Subject: Alloy: Little Announcement > > > Hello there everyone > > It's been so long since I've written to Alloy (Stephen, Elaine and Robin > apart) that I feel totally out of touch!! There are even loads of new > Alloids whose intros I haven't had time to read. Welcome anyway. > > Anyway, the reason for this post, and the reason I've been away is that I > have a great announcement to make (are you ready for this Robin??) Some of > you may remember from years back that I'm married to a beautiful and > fantastically smart, talented and brilliant Moroccan called Nadia who I > met > at Uni. What you probably don't know is that we've been forced to be > seperated since we left Uni in June 1997, because, not only were we > married > in 1996 in secret, without them knowing about it (they still don't), but > we'd have been refused permission to see each other because, despite the > fact that her parents are wonderful people, they are very devout Muslims, > and REALLY socially elevated, so that the fact that their daughter was > going out with a godless poor white rock drummer was anathema. > > The past 18 months have been exrememly difficult for both of us, apart, > and > we were on the verge of giving up in the face of this seemingly > insurmountable gap, but last month various circumstances decreed that > Nadia > had to come to England for a short while, and to cut a VERY long story > short, we've finally persuaded her parents that 5 years' dedication is > enough of a basis on which to trust me to marry their daughter. > > So we're going to get married - again - to each other!!!! Strange or > what?? > I'll be going to Dubai in the Spring to convert to Islam, and to get > engaged formally, and then some time probably towards the end of the year, > we'll be tying the knot properly (a full three-day Arab wedding!), either > there or London or Morocco, we don't know. It's so exciting, and then I'll > be a full member of the Bensoudas of Fez, who are such an amazing and > gifted family - I'm really hoping I'm up to it!! > > So there's my news - it's been a very long time coming, but it shows you > what you can do with a bit of bloody-minded Yorkshireness behind you! > > Anyone who wants to hear Nadia sing can dig out their old copy of Zal and > give Hawaii a spin - everyone who's sent me their address recently - I'll > have your tapes done hopefully by the weekend, complete with bonus tracks > from the next album. > > See you all soon > > the_copse > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:43:54 -0600 From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com Subject: Re[2]: Alloy: Little Announcement - --IMA.Boundary.7626363190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: cc:Mail note part = > From: Tim_Dunn.JBA_HEATHROW.SPL_EXTERNAL@jba.co.uk = > Anyway, the reason for this post, and the reason I've been away is that= I = > have a great announcement to make (are you ready for this Robin??) Some= of = > you may remember from years back that I'm married to a beautiful and > fantastically smart, talented and brilliant Moroccan called Nadia who I= = > met > at Uni. Lordy !!! (Or should that be Allahy ?) Bravo Tim, that's a hell o= f = a step to take, you're a braver man than I !!! Congratulations, = f=E9licitations etc... Best wishes... does this mean that you can speak = French, too ? A+ John PS does she like TMDR ? = - --IMA.Boundary.7626363190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from ns1.baxter.com ([159.198.180.56]) by ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 3.11) id 0001239A; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 02:42:52 -0600 Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (chmls06.mediaone.net [24.128.1.71]) by ns1.baxter.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA04937 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 02:42:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from smoe.org (080020908e73.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.204.144]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA03927; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 03:38:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id DAA15027; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 03:37:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Mon, 14 Dec 1998 03:37:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id DAA15014 for alloy-outgoing; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 03:37:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from teleste.fi (root@teleste.fi [212.213.16.8]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with ESMTP id DAA15010 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 03:37:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from obelix.teleste.fi ([212.213.16.9]:9989 "EHLO obelix.teleste.fi" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by teleste.fi with ESMTP id <291141-26359>; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 11:41:21 +0200 Received: by obelix.teleste.fi with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 10:33:00 +0200 Message-ID: <514B833CB5E4D1118E320008C724B24B03FE5F@obelix.teleste.fi> From: "Ulfstedt, Louise" To: "'alloy@smoe.org'" Subject: RE: Alloy: Little Announcement Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 10:32:59 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-alloy@smoe.org Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. Precedence: bulk - --IMA.Boundary.7626363190-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 10:45:54 +0000 From: Lem Bingley Subject: Alloy: Re: Tim's news and More Sakamoto Congratulations Tim. Anyone willing to get married *twice* must really be in love. > Anyone who wants to hear Nadia sing can dig out their old copy of Zal And anyone who wants to see the happy couple can of course go to the Alloy Names to Faces page http://www.thehub.com.au/~paulb/scrap/scrapbook.html and click on the Tim Dunn link. You kids are just too good-looking for words. I hate you both. Kathleen: Mail me offline if you want me to look up a copy of IME for you. I'll try and think of an album that you can send me in return :-) And Sakamoto fans should also recall that Ryuichi both starred in and wrote the music for the film Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence. Lem ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 14:20:10 -0600 From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com Subject: Alloy: Sad That's me at www.multimania.com/jwh/jh.gif A+ John ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 13:02:24 +0000 From: Tim_Dunn.JBA_HEATHROW.SPL_EXTERNAL@jba.co.uk Subject: Re: Re[2]: Alloy: Little Announcement Hello THanks everyone for all your congrats. Am I the first Alloyer to get married? I can't remember if there was one before.... John's asked the burning question though - does she like TMDR??? Well, yes she does of course (how could I marry her otherwise?) but he's not her favourite. She loves his musicianship, but her preference is towards Morrissey and the Smiths and Radiohead, something that may be a little less smart and knowing. That's because I mainly play her Aliens though, and if she'd listened to Astronauts more she'd like that. However, I Scare Myself has been on our SPECIAL TAPE for many years now............. Cheers the_copse ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 09:49:04 -0800 From: Kathleen McClelland Subject: Re: Alloy: Redheads! Robin, Well, I'm outgoing anyway and a bit eccentric. I got mostly compliments when I put red in my hair. The shade I put in was a medium auburn. It looked quite natural on me. eventually I'm going permanent with this shade of red. Just haven't gotten enough courage yet to take that leap. Pax Aye, Kate;) RThurF@AOL.COM wrote: > In a message dated 12/11/98 4:01:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, > Kathleen.McClelland@online.disney.com writes: > > << I dye my hair a nice shade of red at times when > the mood strikes me. >> > > Wow, I just did this too, only a few weeks back. The strangest thing about it > has been that nobody at work has said a single word about my haircolor change, > even though I still catch them gazing at it when they talk to me. Could it be > they're so used to my little idiosyncrasies that they've given up mentioning > them? Mind you, this is a shade of red that does not look natural in the > least... it's deep flaming cherry color with glowing purplish highlights. I > love it :) The thing about doing my hair red is that it automatically makes me > feel more outgoing... do you also find this to be true? > > Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 14:29:50 -0500 From: MacSuirtain Subject: Alloy: Who Were You In The '80's? A handful of old friends and I have been scanning in and exchanging silly old photos of ourselves from when we first met in college. Made me realize just how much I missed the '80's. Any of you have silly pictures of what you looked like in the Flock of Haircuts era? Come on, you know you have one somewhere that makes you look like a reject from a Kajagoogoo or Bananarama video. Share it with us! Who were you when you discovered Dolby? Did you have hair that wouldn't fit through a doorway? Wear a zillion buttons on your lapel? Own a pair of little wire-rim glasses? (I did -- mine came from the NHS optician at the University of London student union -- those, plus the black clothes and the buzzcut hair made every person selling copies of Socialist Worker on the front steps of the LSE think I was one of their comrades.) Share some joy (or, at the very least, some amusement) with your fellow Alloy-folk for the holidays. Heck, we already know what Thomas looked like. It's only fair! And, for the younger members of our group who may have been fetuses the year GAOW came out, ultrasound images are acceptable. :-) Cheers, Melissa - -- Melissa R. Jordan, never wore blue eyeshadow, but did wear kelly green pants and duck shoes... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:54:07 -0800 From: Kathleen McClelland Subject: Re: Alloy: Who Were You In The '80's? Melissa, When I first heard Dolby's music, I was a straight lace kinda girl and was a sophomore in high school. I wanted to dress 'New Wave' but didn't have the resources to always do so. In my eleventh year I was in beauty school and tried to copy Limahl's hairstyle. It didn't quite turn out the way I wanted it too and was nicknamed 'Skunk' by many in my school. I have a picture somewhere. Will have to find it and send it to you. I also played accordion and used to play for my friend's French club. I remember searching for an overcoat much like the one Dolby wore in his 'She blinded me with Science' video. Also wanted to have a scooter, but the closest I got to that was a white wall tire bike that I would ride to school everyday. Kate;) MacSuirtain wrote: > A handful of old friends and I have been scanning in and exchanging > silly old photos of ourselves from when we first met in college. Made me > realize just how much I missed the '80's. Any of you have silly > pictures of what you looked like in the Flock of Haircuts era? Come on, > you know you have one somewhere that makes you look like a reject from a > Kajagoogoo or Bananarama video. Share it with us! Who were you when > you discovered Dolby? Did you have hair that wouldn't fit through a > doorway? Wear a zillion buttons on your lapel? Own a pair of little > wire-rim glasses? (I did -- mine came from the NHS optician at the > University of London student union -- those, plus the black clothes and > the buzzcut hair made every person selling copies of Socialist Worker on > the front steps of the LSE think I was one of their comrades.) > > Share some joy (or, at the very least, some amusement) with your fellow > Alloy-folk for the holidays. Heck, we already know what Thomas looked > like. It's only fair! > > And, for the younger members of our group who may have been fetuses the > year GAOW came out, ultrasound images are acceptable. :-) > > Cheers, > > Melissa > > -- > Melissa R. Jordan, never wore blue eyeshadow, but did wear kelly green > pants and duck shoes... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 20:55:22 -0000 From: Peter Fitzpatrick Subject: RE: Alloy: Who Were You In The '80's? I'll dig out some nice embarrassing college photos this weekend. ...But for now you can see some of the bands I was in at http://www.shabbyroad.com the earlier ones are the most embarrassing...but strangely enough were the most original (ain't that always the way ?). The first "band" (a duo) was with the guy who introduced me to Thomas' music. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 14:02:48 -0800 From: Kathleen McClelland Subject: Re: Fwd: Alloy: Screen Kiss Try singing the song 'Mulu'. There's a challenge. Kate TBlagg@AOL.COM wrote: > In a message dated 11/12/98 13:52:33 GMT, > John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com writes: > > << Hey people, sat at my desk just ten seconds ago I started singing > "Screen Kiss" & I just realized how hard it is to sing without going > grossly out of tune. Anyone else experienced this phenomena ? > >> > > John, You are not imune to this. A most difficult piece to sing...Especially > the bits where he DELIBERATELY goes out of key. However it sounds good to me > despite everone else wanting to leave the room.... > > My favourite Dolby No..... > > It's funny you should mention this in 1998. I had exactly this thought 14 > years ago...Spooky! > > Trev B. (U.K.) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Alloy: Screen Kiss > Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 14:37:09 -0600 > From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com > Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org > To: alloy@smoe.org > > > Hey people, sat at my desk just ten seconds ago I started singing > "Screen Kiss" & I just realized how hard it is to sing without going > grossly out of tune. Anyone else experienced this phenomena ? > > A+ > > John ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 17:36:55 EST From: TBlagg@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Screen Kiss In a message dated 14/12/98 22:06:18 GMT, Kathleen.McClelland@online.disney.com writes: << Try singing the song 'Mulu'. There's a challenge. I tried Kate,,,,,Then I tried again,,,,,Then again,,,Again,,,,,Now I have no friends at all! Trev B. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 14:57:39 -0800 From: Kathleen McClelland Subject: Re: Alloy: Screen Kiss LOLOL, yeah, I've tried too and almost broke a mirror. Hats off to anyone who can sing acopella and make it sound good. Kate;) TBlagg@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 14/12/98 22:06:18 GMT, > Kathleen.McClelland@online.disney.com writes: > > << Try singing the song 'Mulu'. There's a challenge. > > I tried Kate,,,,,Then I tried again,,,,,Then again,,,Again,,,,,Now I have no > friends at all! > > Trev B. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 23:38:26 +0000 From: "I T Admin @ Govt Office North West" Subject: RE: Alloy: Little Announcement At 11:26 14/12/98 +0000, Lissu wrote: <> >>P.S. Slarv,...that snowball got me right betwixt me eyes,.....I'm going to >>get you for that,..... >> Yahhhhh..... you'll never catch me now I've got me new bike ..... bugger, we weren't supposed to be talking bikes any more, were we? In which case I won't tell you that today was only the third time I'd ridden it, and all the way to work and back. How strange it feels. Slarv ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 23:38:28 +0000 From: "I T Admin @ Govt Office North West" Subject: Re: Alloy: Who Were You In The '80's? At 14:29 14/12/98 -0500, MacSuirtain wrote: > > Any of you have silly >pictures of what you looked like in the Flock of Haircuts era? Come on, >you know you have one somewhere that makes you look like a reject from a >Kajagoogoo or Bananarama video. Share it with us! I'm afraid that by the 80's I'd settled into much the same Slarvibarglheee you know and love today. Now if you'd said the 70's, that would have been a different matter, but very few photo's have survived, in fact very, very few were taken. In '72, when I left school, I was trying (possibly subconsciously) to emulate the image of John Lennon seen on the White Album. You know, three button stripey grandad vest and denim or cord Wrangler hacket, flared jeans and trainers, along with hair down to my shoulders with a centre parting. Outside I may look straight these days, but just under the surface there's a tree huggin' hippie. Prior to that I'd had a crew cut for about four years, during my serious cycle racing period. When I bent my best racing bike beyond repair I gave up the racing and grew my hair, so finally looked like all my pals. When I got married in '75 I got my hair cut, got a posh pin stripe suit, but had to wear bloody stupid platform shoes which were all the fashion at the time. I fought against it, but Lyn insisted that I look the height of trendiness, (whereas I thought I looked the complete balm pot (old Lancashire expression)). >Who were you when you discovered Dolby? Did you have hair that wouldn't fit through a >doorway? Wear a zillion buttons on your lapel? Boring, boring, boring ... I looked boring, or sensible. I was a training officer for the Department of Employment at that time, so needed to look the part. I could say I looked like a typical civil servant, but no such animal actually exists, though most people's vision of and English civil servant is a chap in a pin stripe suit with a bowler hat, a tightly rolled brolly and shiny shoes. But even my wedding suit didn't match that image. Because of the platform shoes I had to have huge flares to cover them. A few years later I took the trousers to a tailor to have them taken in. He jokingly asked if I'd like him to make a waistcoat from the bits he removed, and he probably could have. They were a hoot. We still have some old cine film of the wedding, and when I walk I look like I've just got off my horse because I had to swing my legs outwards to avoid getting tangled in the flares. If I can get a decent scan of my '72 passport photo I'll let you see it. Slarvi ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 23:38:24 +0000 From: "I T Admin @ Govt Office North West" Subject: Re: Alloy: Little Announcement At 15:48 11/12/98 +0000, the_copse wrote: > >Hello there everyone > .... but >we'd have been refused permission to see each other because, despite the >fact that her parents are wonderful people, they are very devout Muslims, >and REALLY socially elevated, so that the fact that their daughter was >going out with a godless poor white rock drummer was anathema. > First, let me add my best wishes to those already posted here. I wish you both great happiness. Coincidences, coincidences, coincidences. Did any of our English brethren see 'Everyman' on the Beeb last night? The whole program was about religious differences and mixed marriages, and was very interesting indeed. There was an Irish couple (one Catholic, one Protestant) a couple from Sarajevo (an Orthodox Christian and a Muslim), an English Christian and a Druid, and an English Vicar with a Hindu wife. Despite their backgrounds they were successfully making a go of it, and in some cases despite pressures from their own families and countrymen/women. There was even a Jewish woman who's mother had married a Nazi in Germany in 1943, and with a little help from the clergy they had successfully managed to avoid her being identified as a Jew and being carted of to a concentration camp. Apart from the mixed marriages there was a lot of discussion about the religious wars that have always been with us. As they said, it's ironic that most religions advocate peace and tolerance of other people, yet their people go to war in the name of their faith. They were of the opinion that most of these wars are really about power and territorial gains, and that religious fanatics keep stirring up the more liberal members of their faith to fight in the name of their beliefs. The older I get, the more I despair of mankind. Life is enough of a struggle for many of us without destroying what we have in the name of our gods. I am grateful that I live in a society which seems to have lost a lot of its religious fervor. But while church attendances continue to fall in some of the more liberal religions, like the Church Of England, the zealots are busy recruiting members for the end of the world and this DOES worry me. One man I really felt sorry for was a sea fisherman who lives on the Yorkshire coast. He trawls from a small boat and is away from home a lot of the time. One of his wife's relatives was a Jehovah's Witness, and while he was away at work was gradually indoctrinating his wife and son. What he thought were his wife's friends popping in for tea were actually bible classes, and eventually his wife locked him out of his own home, and his son, who used to go out fishing with him, told him that he (his father) didn't love him as he didn't want to become a Witness himself. This was an average bloke, working himself hard to keep body, soul and family together, but who lost everything because of fanatics. Certainly in the west there seem to be far more mixed marriages than ever before, and I applaud everyone brave enough to do this. This gradual tide of change must be having a positive effect. Where do I stand on the question of religion? Right in the middle of the road. I had no strong religious upbringing, but I try my best to understand those with strong beliefs. The two students working for me at the moment are a Catholic and a Muslim, and we agree on a whole lot more than we disagree about. I don't know the religion of my boss or my other colleagues, though I DO know how they feel about human rights and equal opportunities. They can be any religion as far as I'm concerned, provided they respect others equally, and don't try to force their beliefs on others. I'll get off me soap box now. Sorry if I've trodden on anyone's toes here, regular readers will know that that's never my intent. Slarvibarglhee ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 19:07:47 -0500 From: MacSuirtain Subject: Re: Alloy: Who Were You In The '80's? Kathleen McClelland wrote: > When I first heard Dolby's music, I was a straight lace kinda girl and was a > sophomore in high school. I was a junior. My friend Mary (who now only listens to NPR now) had a copy of GAOW, and she made me a tape of it -- I remember it was Dolby on one side and Michael Praetorius (kick ass real thing Renaissance music) on the other. I still have that tape. Memorex, BTW. I was pretty straight laced, too. For the most part, I was the quiet scholarly type (oh, man, did that disappear once I hit college.) I was a pseudo-preppy (meaning, my family was working class, and all my prepster duds came from the Kings Daughters' Sewing Circle thrift shop) whose friends almost all seemed to be the daughters and sons of doctors and lawyers. They drove to school in Audis, with Rush and Foreigner pouring from the speakers. Sometimes I was lucky and got to drive Mom's Volare (eeeeeek!) station wagon to school. It was banana yellow with fakey contact paper "wood" paneling. Yeesh! I remember driving home from school in that crapmobile on several occasions and having "Always Something There To Remind Me" by Naked Eyes come on the radio -- I'd zoom down one of the really steep roads to the Mississippi, driving as fast as I could, with the volume turned up so loud it was almost distorted. Ah, youth. When speeding tickets, high speed crashes, and hearing loss seems inconsequential. >I wanted to dress 'New Wave' but didn't have the resources to always do so. Right there with you, mah sistah. Also, I think I didn't want to be too outlandish in high school as a direct response to my father's total outlandishness. The man wore a kilt and walked with a shilelagh on the weekends. With a straw boater (please don't ask me -- I have no rational explanation.) And people wonder why I turned out the way I did. >In my eleventh year I was in beauty school and tried to copy Limahl's hairstyle. It didn't quite turn out the >way I wanted it too and was nicknamed 'Skunk' by many in my school. Oh, man. I can relate. I have very unruly, curly hair. In high school, I hadn't mastered doing anything with it (and frankly, I didn't care, unless I was going on stage in a play), so I looked like I had a dead squirrel on my head. I still look like that in the morning and whenever it's humid outside. >I also played accordion and used to play for my friend's French club. I remember searching for an You and Crackers will have to form an Alloy sub-group for accordion players. And where is Crackers this week? Off taking more naked photos of himself, perhaps in a room with Teletubbies wallpaper this time? Ha! - -- Melissa R. Jordan Hey, at least I didn't write "naked photos of himself and his Furby..." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 19:19:33 -0500 From: MacSuirtain Subject: Re: Alloy: Who Were You In The '80's? Peter, I love these photos and the great commentary that goes along with it. The first photos remind me of so many album covers from the '60's. I laughed out loud at the bit about having aspirations of being Vince Clarke -- especially since the last time I saw Vince he was in a cactus suit. Someone in London once told me I sang like Alison Moyet. Pity that, at that time, I had no idea who she was. (Yeah, I grew up under a rock, what can I tell you?) Thanks for sharing your stuff. It's great. I'm just learning about setting up web pages. I'm afraid all I've mastered so far is scanning pictures and sticking them up on the itty bitty piece of web space my ISP provides. I'm a self-proclaimed techno-ninny. If you go here (http://www.erols.com/wearart/mrj1985.jpg) you can see a page of my Gallery of Bad Haircuts mid-80's style. The pictures are a wee bit fuzzy. I'm still getting the hang of using the scanner. Obviously, there is progress yet to be made. The picture in the lower left is me in my Macalester College Concert Choir gear. Try standing on stage under hot lights for a couple of hours wrapped in floor length tartan wool. Bleech. The Vend-a-Bait machine was outside the convenience store in my mom's neighborhood for years. I did see someone buying fresh nightcrawlers there once. Weird stuff, man. Very, very midwestern... Time to make dinner... Cheers, M. - -- Melissa R. Jordan Owner/Artist, Compass Rose Studios Unique Wearable Art in Large Sizes & Handstamped Handicrafts http://www.erols.com/jamesq/crs/welcome.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 19:46:45 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Who Were You In The '80's? In a message dated 12/14/98 2:32:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, wearart@erols.com writes: << Any of you have silly pictures of what you looked like in the Flock of Haircuts era? Come on, you know you have one somewhere that makes you look like a reject from a Kajagoogoo or Bananarama video. Share it with us! Who were you when you discovered Dolby? Did you have hair that wouldn't fit through a doorway? >> I'm DEFINITELY going digging for some photos of myself at age 15-18, but don't say I didn't warn you (though it may take me a while to get my hands on them, don't know if I have any here. My life history is now smeared across several states) I do have one of my rare mohawk photos which I'll have Dave scan in at work. i didn't do the mohawk til right before i got married, which doesn't qualify as the 80's, but it'll be interesting until i do find an 80's one. I'm wearing my mohawk down, reading a comic book, and eating squid (yes!) with one of Dave's giant paintings in the background. I made this photo into a magnet & it's now stuck to the fridge, so I know right where it is! Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 19:37:08 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Sad In a message dated 12/14/98 8:26:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com writes: << www.multimania.com/jwh/jh.gif >> This is a cool picture! What's that you're holding? And what's that big snow- covered monstrosity behind you? Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 20:15:48 -0500 From: MacSuirtain Subject: Re: Alloy: Little Announcement I T Admin @ Govt Office North West wrote: Some very wise words... > I'll get off me soap box now. No need. That was very, very well-written, sir. Wish I were that elequent. - -- Melissa R. Jordan, still struggling with English as a first language ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 20:24:31 -0500 From: MacSuirtain Subject: Re: Alloy: Who Were You In The '80's? RThurF@aol.com wrote: > I do have one of my rare mohawk photos which I'll have Dave scan in at work. i > didn't do the mohawk til right before i got married, which doesn't qualify as > the 80's, but it'll be interesting until i do find an 80's one. I'm wearing my > mohawk down, reading a comic book, and eating squid (yes!) with one of Dave's > giant paintings in the background. I love it! I think Robin is describing one of the lost scenes from "Repo Man." - -- Melissa R. Jordan Debbi: Duke, let's go do some crimes. Duke: Yeah! Let's go get sushi and not pay. -- "Repo Man" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 21:01:48 -0500 From: Rochelle Kirby <104040.2055@compuserve.com> Subject: Alloy: Jungle Line Thanks to Michael Lucky (who was kind enough to make a tape of Dolby rarities/obscurities) I have now listened to Jungle Line. It has become one of my favorite Dolby songs, which leads me to a question. What's the background on this song? For that matter, what's the background on Urban Tribal and Growth/Therapy (what a seductive song!)? Rochelle Powered by "Frank Sinatra" by Cake ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 20:08:25 -0700 From: "Keith Stansell" Subject: Re: Fwd: Alloy: Screen Kiss Tell me about it! That was my contribution to the forthcoming Dolby Tribute album. Not only was it difficult to sing, but I never in my life did anything like record a song all by myself. I had to learn how to use my MIDI keyboard, learn how to edit on the computer, I even had to make a few changes to the song to fit my vocal range. - -Keith - -----Original Message----- From: Kathleen McClelland To: alloy@smoe.org Date: Monday, December 14, 1998 3:24 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: Alloy: Screen Kiss > >Try singing the song 'Mulu'. There's a challenge. > >Kate > >TBlagg@AOL.COM wrote: > >> In a message dated 11/12/98 13:52:33 GMT, >> John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com writes: >> >> << Hey people, sat at my desk just ten seconds ago I started singing >> "Screen Kiss" & I just realized how hard it is to sing without going >> grossly out of tune. Anyone else experienced this phenomena ? >> >> >> >> John, You are not imune to this. A most difficult piece to sing...Especially >> the bits where he DELIBERATELY goes out of key. However it sounds good to me >> despite everone else wanting to leave the room.... >> >> My favourite Dolby No..... >> >> It's funny you should mention this in 1998. I had exactly this thought 14 >> years ago...Spooky! >> >> Trev B. (U.K.) >> >> ----------------------- - ------------------------------------------------- >> >> Subject: Alloy: Screen Kiss >> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 14:37:09 -0600 >> From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com >> Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org >> To: alloy@smoe.org >> >> >> Hey people, sat at my desk just ten seconds ago I started singing >> "Screen Kiss" & I just realized how hard it is to sing without going >> grossly out of tune. Anyone else experienced this phenomena ? >> >> A+ >> >> John > > > ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V3 #336 ***************************