From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V3 #327 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Sunday, December 6 1998 Volume 03 : Number 327 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: A Question for the Truly Savvy [MacSuirtain ] RE: Alloy: Video game questions [Peter Fitzpatrick ] Alloy: Video Gaming Questions [JARUTLAND@aol.com] Alloy: what's up with FES site ? [Peter Fitzpatrick ] Re: Alloy: Nudes [Chris Cracknell ] Re: Alloy: Nudes [Eclipse ] Re: Alloy: what's up with FES site ? [Brian Clayton ] Re: Alloy: Nudes/work [Eclipse ] Alloy: Six Degrees of '80's Music Separation [MacSuirtain Subject: Alloy: A Question for the Truly Savvy And this would include Thomas himself. I found a website with a couple of Dolby-related posters for sale. One is a promo poster for Musician magazine, with, presumably, Our Fearless Leader on it. The other one is described as "Music For Your Eyes" Video Promo Poster. Can anybody clue me in? What manner of beastie is this? Thanks, Melissa - -- Melissa R. Jordan Owner/Artist, Compass Rose Studios Unique Wearable Art in Large Sizes & Handstamped Handicrafts http://www.erols.com/jamesq/crs/welcome.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 03:41:13 -0800 From: Peter Fitzpatrick Subject: RE: Alloy: Video game questions Playstation = lots of games available, if you're in Europe it can be modified to play US games Nintendo64 = better spec machine, currently not as many games. it's Betamax Vs VHS all over again - -----Original Message----- From: DThurkirk@aol.com [mailto:DThurkirk@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, December 05, 1998 5:16 AM To: alloy@smoe.org Subject: Alloy: Video game questions Okay guys, after a hair raising experience involving a bad 3D card and my otherwise happy computer and monitor I have desided to buy a TV video game type thing rather than muck around with whatever upgrade my computer needs this week to play the latest game. Sooooo...what do you gaming folks like better the Playstation or the Nintendo 64 and why? __Dave T ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 04:23:47 PST From: "zoe mcneish" Subject: RE: Alloy: Video game questions I'm fortunate enough to own both machines and can only say that your choice has to come down to what kind of games you like playing. As it stands N64 doesn't have any decent fighting games or racers, but does have excellent platformers like Super Mario 64. Playstation on the other hand has far more games across all the different genres...there's bound to be something that takes your fancy. However if you like role playing games ( not THAT sort of role playing!) then the N64 now has the excellent Zelda. On the other hand at present N64 games are really "cute" looking, I doubt we'll see stuff like "Resident Evil" on N64! At the end of the day it's horses for courses,although in the variety stakes the Playstation does have the upper hand. Hope that's of some use,whatever you decide both machines are great! Good luck! Alex ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 08:51:28 EST From: JARUTLAND@aol.com Subject: Alloy: Video Gaming Questions Dave, I have always found the Sony to be superior if you like more "reality" type games, i.e.: car racing. Nintendo appears to have more to offer if you like "fantasy" games, i.e.: anything involving dragons. Personally, I like the Sony better in terms of interface, but that may be because I have spent more time using the Sony than the Nintendo. I had to weigh all of this when I had to choose one for a Christmas present last year for my brother. Hope this is helpful. Andy "moving in stereo" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 07:28:58 -0800 From: Peter Fitzpatrick Subject: Alloy: what's up with FES site ? am I out of date here? surfed to http://www.tdolby.com/ and getting error. is this ancient history or does my net connection need a good steam cleaning ? - -Peter http://www.shabbyroad.com a permanent construction site ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 10:20:09 -0500 From: "Beth Meyer" Subject: RE: Alloy: welcome Peter! Hi, folks; Peter wrote: >The comfy chair ? > >NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! NOT THE COMFY CHAIR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well, I already assumed that you would fit right in after the Bert and Ernie puppet thing, but this confirms it in my book! By the way, I take it from the name of your web site (www.shabbyroad.com) that you have seen "The Rutles." You should know, then, that there is a keen appreciation for musical humor here, if our Thomas Dolby song parody contest was any indication (pity you missed that). "The Rutles" was another movie that my husband and I had to get on tape and watch multiple times, laughing ourselves silly each time. For those of you who are not familiar with this movie, it is a wonderful rock documentary parody, not unlike the later and better-known "This is Spinal Tap." "The Rutles" featured Eric Idle and Neil Innes of "Monty Python" fame in the account of a band whose history is suspiciously like that of the Beatles. Along the way, the movie has quite a bit of fun with the cliches of rock documentaries. My favorite moment was when the film takes the obligatory trip to the Mississippi Delta to explore the band's roots in rhythm and blues. We open with a shot of Eric Idle, the film's narrator, on a busy street in downtown New Orleans. Eric: Here we are on the banks of the Mississippi. The First National... (Eric pauses, looks bemused. Quick cut to a shot of Eric out in the countryside, with the Mississippi River flowing in the background.) Eric: Here we are on the banks of the Mississippi, to talk to some of the legendary blues musicians whose work may have been the foundation for the Rutles' music. Eric then goes on to interview legendary bluesman Blind Lemon Pye, who it turns out has never heard of the Rutles. The interview with legendary bluesman Ruttling Orange Peel goes even more awry ... Anyway, worth a look if you know anything whatsoever about the Beatles and feel like a good chuckle. Cheers, Beth (who is now seriously regretting the fact that all of our videotapes are in storage until our new house is finished!) Beth Meyer bethmeyer@mindspring.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 12:52:05 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Re: Alloy: Nudes In article <3.0.1.16.19981127112824.3e2f3ff0@mail.geocities.com>, you wrote: >Well damnit, I -am- underage! If it weren't for that (and the fact that mum >and dad and little brother would see anything they took to the developer) >I'd want one to paint from. Turq promised me he'd take pictures once we're >living together though... ;) > >I've done lots of sketches of myself naked (what can I say, I'm gorgeous).. >I wouldn't mind posing nude for an art class, if it paid well (and was >reasonably warm.. was it Robin who did this for a few hours in a really >chilly room once?) ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ How the heckety heck do you sketch yourself in the nude without taking a picture? Do you look in a mirror or just go by memory? I don't think guys would be able to do that, we'd be too tempted to give ourselves certain augmentations. I've got my nude pic scanned and it's posted on my website for those who really really want to see what I looked like younger and without clothes. It turns out it wasn't my Blackhole sheets I was posing on. There was a little mark on the negative on the sheet that I thought was a spaceship but upon making a print I don't think it is. It's something on the sheet but I have no idea what so I don't know what type of sheets they were. Still, the ducky quilt and the race-car wallpaper make this pic far less sexy than I thought it was at the time. *Warning* Naked Crackers Pic Below http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/yungme03.jpg There you go Robin, now we're even ;) Although yours was a much better quality photo in all aspects. CRACKERS (Letting it all flop out from hell!!!) - -- Collector of Atari 2600 carts - Accordionist - Bira Bira Devotee - Anime fan * http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html | Crackers' Arts Base * * http://www.angelfire.com/ma/hozervideo/index.html | Hozer Video Games * Nihongo ga dekimasu - 2600 programmer - Father of 2 great kids - Canadian eh ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 02:55:05 From: Eclipse Subject: Re: Alloy: Nudes >>I've done lots of sketches of myself naked (what can I say, I'm gorgeous).. >>I wouldn't mind posing nude for an art class, if it paid well (and was >>reasonably warm.. was it Robin who did this for a few hours in a really >>chilly room once?) >~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ > >How the heckety heck do you sketch yourself in the nude without taking a >picture? Do you look in a mirror or just go by memory? Both. Mirrors 'specially. Out here there really aren't any people to sketch at all. My lil' brother (with his clothes on!) usually won't sit still long enough. (long enough=~15 minutes) So I have to resort to myself. Maybe that's why I have trouble drawing males (clothed or otherwise)... 'course, Crackers's pic might change that. Oh, wait, I'm still underage! -- E(lipse (who just sent her first telegram (how quaint!) and has been stressing out being the hub of a "little social network" of four... one in Brazil, Indiana without any telephone access and no car/license/transportation, one in inner St Louis, Missouri with sporadic telephone (but no internet) access and no car/license/transportation and one in Bozeman, Montana with, dogbless, telephone & internet access, a driver's license, a job, some $, available vehicular transport, a nice family and some self-confidence (!!!). Hopefully, with luck and effort, the four of us will all be in one spot for a few hours by next Sunday.) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 11:25:01 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) From: Brian Clayton Subject: Re: Alloy: what's up with FES site ? On Sat, 5 Dec 1998, Peter Fitzpatrick wrote: > am I out of date here? > > surfed to http://www.tdolby.com/ and getting error. > > is this ancient history or does my net connection need a good steam cleaning The FES is now at www.thomas-dolby.com, Peter. I guess they couldn't get tdolby.com transferred over from their previous webhosting provider. Hmm...actually, the domain has expired; so I might suggest that TD re-register it and point it to the new site, so everyone may find their way to it again. BC - --- Brian Clayton "Anyway, it's not me that's mad, it's the rest stemish@lns.com of the world. Aaaaaaaahh!" -- TMDR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 03:14:46 From: Eclipse Subject: Re: Alloy: Nudes/work Me, Robin.. ><< I wouldn't mind posing nude for an art class, if it paid well (and was > reasonably warm.. was it Robin who did this for a few hours in a really > chilly room once?) >> > >It was ten degrees below zero in the middle of January, and the heat was >unexpectedly broken at my friend's studio. He was an artist who worked for a >television station & had gotten a bunch of other artist friends together to >pay me to sit for them Ack.. yep, that's pretty chilly. >(the pay often isn't bad for art models, btw, but the >work is BORING! :) Yeah.. when I said I wouldn't mind I was thinking of sitting very still in one spot for long stretches of time as much as anything. I'm generally pretty good at keeping my mind occupied. I imagine I'd have to be a bit more flexible than I am now to keep from being extremely uncomfortable (the only bad grade I got in kindergarten was in PE, for flexibility (my lack thereof)! I hated that kindergarten...) Recently I've been thinking and thinking and thinking about what sorts of things I could potentially do to make money.. since I live an hour from almost anywhere and can't drive, a job hasn't been a great option, but this summer it should be...and next year (wow) I'm going to college. Maybe I could do some kind of tutoring or work with kids.. I wonder how I'd get started trying to publish some of my writing/illustrations (I'm well aware that it would be remarkable if I made pocket change off of that now, but in the hope of getting -something- for it later, starting to collect experience/credentials now seems like a good idea..). Maybe I could do something with animals (?).. or computers. I'm currently in the process of starting a small business, but all/any $ it makes is going back into it.. and even after that, of the three owners, I'm the one who needs cash the least. Maybe some kind of cooking/baking job.. I'm not bad at that. Hmmmm... >I didn't want to reschedule after all those arrangements >had been made. I sat for a three hour session. The people who were drawing me >were wearing their winter coats & mittens. They felt so bad that I sat there & >froze that they paid me extra, which was a huge plus especially at the time. You're a brave and dedicated soul, Robin..! >One tip as far as modelling... if you sit for a class, try to come up with >really interesting poses, using props like chairs to drape yourself over etc. >The more dynamic you can be without spraining something (and always consider >that it's a pose you'll have to hold for a while), the more sought after >you'll become as an art model. If you consider the poses from the artist's >perspective, which poses show tension, weight, balance, etc, it will be fairly >easy to do something people can learn from. Think of yourself as a teacher of >sorts. That's really cool. :) >Finally.. be prepared for the fact that people who draw from you in class >won't recognise you in the halls because they're not used to seeing you with >your clothes on. Hmm.. I bet they'd recognize my hair. (I've got a lot of hair.. not an exceptional lot, but enough that people seem to notice it. See http://www2.cybercities.com/t/thecove/looks.html for pictures of me (and my hair)) My mom modeled for sculptors when she was in college. She says that they all told her she was very difficult to sculpt well, because she doesn't have any really distinguishing features at all... Peace... -- E(lipse ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 22:10:48 -0500 From: MacSuirtain Subject: Alloy: Six Degrees of '80's Music Separation I was doing some hunting at The Mining Company, when I found that Our Fearless Leader was featured in a "six degrees of separation" game on their site. Visit it and see how you get from Free to TMDR in six easy moves: http://80music.miningco.com/library/weekly/bl061598.htm - -- Melissa R. Jordan Owner/Artist, Compass Rose Studios Unique Wearable Art in Large Sizes & Handstamped Handicrafts http://www.erols.com/jamesq/crs/welcome.htm ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V3 #327 ***************************