From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V3 #322 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Wednesday, December 2 1998 Volume 03 : Number 322 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: Rudolph the Red nosed Reindeer [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Rudolph the Red nosed Reindeer ["Charles E. Kemp" ] Re: Alloy: Needles [Chris Cracknell ] Re: Alloy: Needles [Chris Cracknell ] Re: Alloy: Rudolph the Red nosed Reindeer [Chris Cracknell ] RE: Alloy: Nudes ["Beth Meyer" ] Re: Alloy: Nudes [MacSuirtain ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 06:55:34 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Rudolph the Red nosed Reindeer In a message dated 11/30/98 10:51:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, wearart@erols.com writes: << Melissa R. Jordan, who, as usual, cried tonight when the misfit toys thought Santa wasn't coming for them. God, I am such a sap. >> We watched this tonight too, and Dave reminded me that our friend Russ' grandfather wrote the story... so we at least know the grandson of the man responsible for so many television viewers' heartbreak each Christmas season. Want us to chew him out for ya? :) Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 04:28:35 -0800 (PST) From: "Charles E. Kemp" Subject: Re: Alloy: Rudolph the Red nosed Reindeer > << Melissa R. Jordan, who, as usual, cried tonight when the misfit toys > thought Santa wasn't coming for them. God, I am such a sap. >> > > We watched this tonight too, and Dave reminded me that our friend Russ' > grandfather wrote the story... so we at least know the grandson of the man > responsible for so many television viewers' heartbreak each Christmas season. > Want us to chew him out for ya? :) > > Robin T > Argh! I can't believe I missed it AGAIN. I had managed to see this every year that I can remember until the last 2 years. One of these days, I'll manage to record it. ****** Charles E. Kemp ****** cekemp@netcom.com ****** (812) 597-5950 ****** Just for the sake of it make sure you're always frowning, it shows the world that you've got substance and depth. - Neil Tennant ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 10:38:07 -0500 From: MacSuirtain Subject: Re: Alloy: Rudolph the Red nosed Reindeer Charles E. Kemp wrote: > Argh! I can't believe I missed it AGAIN. I had managed to see this > every year that I can remember until the last 2 years. One of these > days, I'll manage to record it. Ah, and last night it was "Rudolph - the Special Edition." They put back in 2 1/2 minutes that hadn't been shown since it was first on CBS in the mid 60's. And they cleaned the color up, too. Very neat. I found out that my local drug store is selling small plush toys of all the main characters. A friend just called to let me know she bought me a Charlie-in-the-Box. That's so cool! - - M. - -- Melissa R. Jordan, Misfit Toy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 10:42:29 -0500 From: MacSuirtain Subject: Re: Alloy: Rudolph the Red nosed Reindeer RThurF@aol.com wrote: > We watched this tonight too, and Dave reminded me that our friend Russ' > grandfather wrote the story... so we at least know the grandson of the man > responsible for so many television viewers' heartbreak each Christmas season. > Want us to chew him out for ya? :) Ooooh -- you know, I heard somewhere that the original Rudolph story was written for Montgomery Ward, to be used as a holiday marketing thing. Could you ask your friend if he knows whether or not that's true? I've always been curious! Cheers, M. - -- Melissa R. Jordan, Misfit Toy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 17:02:02 -0600 From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com Subject: Re[2]: Alloy: Rudolph the Red nosed Reindeer - --IMA.Boundary.069825219 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Someone wrote.. Ah, and last night it was "Rudolph - the Special Edition." They put back in 2 1/2 minutes that hadn't been shown since it was first on CBS in the mid 60's. And they cleaned the color up, too. Very neat. I found out that my local drug store is selling small plush toys of all the main characters. A friend just called to let me know she bought me a Charlie-in-the-Box. That's so cool! And I say Can you buy a plush toy of the reindeer immediately behind Rudolf the Red Nosed Reindeer, "Freddie the Brown Nosed Reindeer" who wasn't very good at emergency stops ? - --IMA.Boundary.069825219 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from ns2.baxter.com (159.198.1.38) by ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 00707951; Tue, 1 Dec 98 09:43:52 - -0600 Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (chmls06.mediaone.net [24.128.1.71]) by ns2.baxter.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA02411 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 09:43:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from smoe.org (080020908e73.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.204.144]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA01943; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:38:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id KAA21659; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:37:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:37:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id KAA21645 for alloy-outgoing; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:37:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with ESMTP id KAA21641 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:37:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from erols.com (207-172-45-91.s91.tnt5.brd.erols.com [207.172.45.91]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29828 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:40:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36640D5F.9BB81E8B@erols.com> Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 10:38:07 -0500 From: MacSuirtain X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en]C-RR082798 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: alloy@smoe.org Subject: Re: Alloy: Rudolph the Red nosed Reindeer References: <199812011228.EAA01827@netcom15.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-alloy@smoe.org Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. Precedence: bulk - --IMA.Boundary.069825219-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 13:32:34 -0500 From: MacSuirtain Subject: Alloy: Kazakhstan! Kyrgzstan! Uzbekistan! And the rest of the Icky-stans! I had this urge to call an old colleague from the Commerce Department today -- we've done training programs (for former Soviet business leaders) together for several years. Strangely, she told me that she was thinking about me today, and would I be interested in taking a 3-month contract to travel around Central Asia, evaluating the success of their science and business training programs. This would mean meeting real, honest-to-god rocket scientists, visiting Baikonur, going on factory tours of all sorts! Cool!!! Three months away from Washington could be very, very healthy! Fresh Central Asian air, chillin' again on the Tibetan Plateau, wandering in the snow covering the Mountains of Heaven, the occasional period of civil war in Tadjikistan... Well, keep fingers and toes crossed. They have to accept applications for a two week period once the announcement goes out, but the way she described it (she's the director), it's mine. She said, "Yeah, we'll give you an office at the embassy in Almaty." An embassy office. Zowa. Well, here's hoping! Cheers, Melissa - -- Melissa R. Jordan, Misfit Toy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 14:28:27 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Re: Alloy: Needles In article <3662B4A6.FEC21DDF@erols.com>, you wrote: >Crackers - I have to ask - who took your photo? A friend? Girlfriend? >Landlord? Used a timer and did the self-portrait thing? Just curious. >(Personally, I like the thought of you asking your landlord to lend a >hand.) :-) ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ I set the camera up on a tri-pod and then used the timer on my camera to take it myself. CRACKERS (Where's my Zoom lense from hell!!!) - -- Collector of Atari 2600 carts - Accordionist - Bira Bira Devotee - Anime fan * http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html | Crackers' Arts Base * * http://www.angelfire.com/ma/hozervideo/index.html | Hozer Video Games * Nihongo ga dekimasu - 2600 programmer - Father of 2 great kids - Canadian eh ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 14:28:27 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Re: Alloy: Needles In article , you wrote: >Send me a copy of this, will you crackers? C'mon, I showed you mine! ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ I dunno, I can just see my E-mail getting intercepted by the RCMP then the next thing I know I'm arrested for distributing "kiddie-porn" on the net. "Honest officer! This is a self portrate and I was of legal age at the time. Really!" Looks at photo... looks at me... "Lock the pervert up boys." And that's what happens when you don't have any distinguishing features on your penis. CRACKERS (Generic Johnson from hell!!) - -- Collector of Atari 2600 carts - Accordionist - Bira Bira Devotee - Anime fan * http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html | Crackers' Arts Base * * http://www.angelfire.com/ma/hozervideo/index.html | Hozer Video Games * Nihongo ga dekimasu - 2600 programmer - Father of 2 great kids - Canadian eh ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 14:28:24 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Re: Alloy: Needles In article , you wrote: >__Dave T (oh to be young foolish and naked again) ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ Two out of three ain't bad. CRACKERS (Where's my pants from hell!!!) - -- Collector of Atari 2600 carts - Accordionist - Bira Bira Devotee - Anime fan * http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html | Crackers' Arts Base * * http://www.angelfire.com/ma/hozervideo/index.html | Hozer Video Games * Nihongo ga dekimasu - 2600 programmer - Father of 2 great kids - Canadian eh ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 14:28:26 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Re: Alloy: Rudolph the Red nosed Reindeer In article <36640D5F.9BB81E8B@erols.com>, you wrote: >Ah, and last night it was "Rudolph - the Special Edition." They put >back in 2 1/2 minutes that hadn't been shown since it was first on CBS >in the mid 60's. And they cleaned the color up, too. Very neat. I ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ "Rudolf - the Director's Cut"... In this version Rudolf says, "Go hump your fat ugly ass you jolly fat fuck! If you think that I'm going to help you out after all the flak you and your facist deer with a bad case of moose envy gave me you're one candy cane short of a stuffed stocking! Maybe Mrs Santa would like to know the real reason you've been spending so many late nights in the workshop. Anyone for a game of "Hide the Elf"? You can all watch my fluffy white tail walk out the door. I'm taking my red nose to L.A. where freaks are welcome! How's that for your 'late one foggy christmas eve'?" We wanted to give Rudolf an edge to bring him into the 90s. He's a very pro-active, in-your-face kind of deer with a raw gritiness to his character as a result of growing up on the tough streets of the lower east North Pole. But inside there's still the emotionally fragile deer-child who is really yearning for love an acceptance which manifests itself in a co-dependent relationship with an elf who has a tooth fetish. It's this vulnerability which we feel draws the audience into the life of this very special deer. We've got a lot of big names in on this project and have completely redubbed all the old parts. We have Robert Denero as Santa "Fat-Daddy" Clause. "Are you pullin' my sleigh? Are you pullin' my sleigh? I don't see anyone else's sleigh here so you must be pullin' my sleigh. Are you pullin' my sleigh?" And James Earl Jones as "The Abominable Snowman". "Dasher never told you the truth about your father. Rudolf, I am your father." "NOOOOooooooooo!!!!!" "Search your feelings Rudolf, you know it to be true. You can destroy Santa, he has forseen it. Come, join with me and together we shall rule the North Pole as father and son." And William Shatner as the Elf Forman. "More... toys... DamnitelvesIneed more.... toys.... MORE..........TOYS!!" We've also included an additional 20 minutes of new digitally enhanced computer special effects. CRACKERS (Released in Letter-box format from hell!!) - -- Collector of Atari 2600 carts - Accordionist - Bira Bira Devotee - Anime fan * http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html | Crackers' Arts Base * * http://www.angelfire.com/ma/hozervideo/index.html | Hozer Video Games * Nihongo ga dekimasu - 2600 programmer - Father of 2 great kids - Canadian eh ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 15:11:05 -0500 From: MacSuirtain Subject: Re: Alloy: Rudolph the Red nosed Reindeer Chris Cracknell wrote: > "Rudolf - the Director's Cut"... For the love of god, Crackers -- please get a job writing for tv/movies/twisted magazines. I'd hang on every word. BTW, do y'all get MadTV in Canada? Hasn't been good since the first season, but when it was good... ah... they did these amazing animated pieces that perfectly copied things like "Rudolph..." or "Davey and Goliath." The Rudolph takeoff was "The Reinfather." Bad things happened to Santa and Yukon Cornelius. I laughed so hard. "Davey and Son of Goliath" was even better. "Davey, oh, Davey! Time to cleanse the city, Davey!" It was brilliant, and I wish I had a copy of it. - -- Melissa R. Jordan "Well, Davey, have you learned anything?" "Yes, father. I've learned it's bad to kill people in parked cars." "Well, goodbye forever, Davey." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 20:13:25 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Nudes In a message dated 12/1/98 2:40:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, crackers@hwcn.org writes: << "Honest officer! This is a self portrate and I was of legal age at the time. Really!" Looks at photo... looks at me... "Lock the pervert up boys." >> I have a solution which might work. Simply alter your suroundings in the picture using Photoshop (presto change-o, instant bachelor pad!) and graft on a manly-looking beard. We could even do it as part of a contest, where all Alloy members get to fashion unique surroundings for the gracile young crackers! Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 21:34:54 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Kazakhstan! Kyrgzstan! Uzbekistan! In a message dated 12/1/98 1:35:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, wearart@erols.com writes: << They have to accept applications for a two week period once the announcement goes out, but the way she described it (she's the director), it's mine. She said, "Yeah, we'll give you an office at the embassy in Almaty." >> Melissa, this sounds wonderful!! Congratulations on this great offer. You WILL keep one of your luscious travel diaries for us to indulge ourselves in, yes? (Or at least to hang onto for yourself.. to publish!! :) Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 02:55:16 From: Eclipse Subject: Re: Alloy: Rudolph the Red nosed Reindeer >Ah, and last night it was "Rudolph - the Special Edition." They put >back in 2 1/2 minutes that hadn't been shown since it was first on CBS >in the mid 60's. And they cleaned the color up, too. Very neat. I >found out that my local drug store is selling small plush toys of all >the main characters. A friend just called to let me know she bought me >a Charlie-in-the-Box. That's so cool! > >- M. > >-- >Melissa R. Jordan, Misfit Toy Neato! Have you seen "Rudolph's Shiney New Year"? Sequels to "children's" movies are often kinda dull, but I really liked it... the Baby New Year runs away into the achipelego of time or yesterday or something like that--each island is a different year in the past. Rudolph, of course, has to go get him.. Haven't seen it for a couple years--we used to get it from the video store, I think. My little brother watched it constantly for a few months.. -- E(lipse who has been lurking for a while here.. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 22:38:50 -0500 From: "Beth Meyer" Subject: RE: Alloy: Nudes Hi, folks; Regarding the problem of crackers' inability to send out his nude photos of himself as a young man without risking being nailed as a child pornographer, Robin suggested: >Simply alter your suroundings in the >picture using Photoshop (presto change-o, instant bachelor pad!) and graft on >a manly-looking beard. >We could even do it as part of a contest, where all Alloy members get to >fashion unique surroundings for the gracile young crackers! Actually, I'm envisioning the Naked Crackers Paper Doll here. Maybe we could send the photo to Melissa (if she can stand one more such photo), Robin, Dave, and anyone else with clothing design or artistic inclinations, and they could draw lots of stunning outfits, with little tabs to hold them in place, for the young future accordionist in repose. Something different to give the kiddies for Christmas... Cheers, Beth P.S. Thanks for the inquiry Elaine, the baby on the way seems to be coming along just fine, judging by the squirm frequency (I seem to have passed along my propensity to toss, turn, and fidget!). Beth Meyer bethmeyer@mindspring.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 01:21:38 -0500 From: MacSuirtain Subject: Re: Alloy: Nudes Beth Meyer wrote: > Actually, I'm envisioning the Naked Crackers Paper Doll here. Maybe we > could send the photo to Melissa (if she can stand one more such photo), > Robin, Dave, and anyone else with clothing design or artistic inclinations, I like that. At one point today, I was thinking about Colorforms, and how much fun it would be to have a grown-up version. Heh heh heh. Then again, I already do have those "Dress Up David" and "Dress Up Venus" magnet sets. Oh, bother. Now I have this image of a naked Crackers picture on my fridge, held in place by naughty magnet poetry. Yep, it's time for this girl to get some sleep. - -- M. - -- Melissa R. Jordan, whose magnetic poetry set came from the manufacturer with these words strung together on the top: "please incubate the meat pole" ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V3 #322 ***************************