From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V3 #321 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Tuesday, December 1 1998 Volume 03 : Number 321 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re[6]: Alloy: All Dolby roads lead to Alloy [John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmail] Re: Alloy: Needles to Naked Men... [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Needles [MacSuirtain ] Re: Alloy: Needles to Naked Men... [MacSuirtain ] Re: Alloy: Needles [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Alloy: fighting Buddhists [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Live Wireless/ CIA agents [RThurF@aol.com] Alloy: Russian coat question [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Russian coat question [MacSuirtain ] Re: Alloy: Needles [DThurkirk@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Needles [MacSuirtain ] Re: Alloy: Live Wireless/ CIA agents [DThurkirk@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Needles ["Keith Stansell" ] Re: Alloy: Russian coat question [Robyn Moore ] Alloy: Look What I Got [Robyn Moore ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:03:21 -0600 From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com Subject: Re[6]: Alloy: All Dolby roads lead to Alloy - --IMA.Boundary.280714219 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: cc:Mail note part = Slarv mused. = = >Ah yes, a programme I try hard not to miss. They're still running with = the = >Mandelsonn theme, and are still getting away with it. I bet Mr Birt is = >biting the carpet wondering how he can stop them without bringing the ga= me = >into disrepute himself. = >Slarv = It's because HIGNFY is made by an independant company, Hat Trick = Productions, I believe, and bought by the BBC. If the Beeb complaine= d = about it, then Hat Trick would simply bugger off to Channel Four or = even ITV, who would welcome it with open arms. It's one of BBC 2's t= op = audience grabbers, and in effect they would be shooting themselves i= n = the foot should they do anything to jeapordize or lose it. 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Precedence: bulk - --IMA.Boundary.280714219-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 07:17:50 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Needles to Naked Men... In a message dated 11/29/98 11:47:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, wearart@erols.com writes: << "Thomas from Paris" (who was naked on a Harley) >> Whoo hoo! Send him to me! Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:07:18 -0500 From: MacSuirtain Subject: Re: Alloy: Needles Chris Cracknell wrote: As usual, a damn funny story. For me, it was the thought of Blackhole pillowcases as part of the backdrop that really did me in. > ....It might not be a bad idea for everyone to take a nude photo of > themselves when they're in their prime to admire later when the flower of > youth has faded (or the beer of gut has expanded ;). Maybe not such a bad idea (for most people -- I could be arrested for even contemplating that!), but, if you become rich and famous, be sure to lock up the negatives. Just remember Dr. Laura. > I guess I'll have to make a print to scan and send it to Melissa after I've > visited her website (or does it have to be a current pic?) Ohhhhhh, I don't know if any of the photos I've received are current or not... I get this nervous laugh now, whenever I see an unfamiliar e-mail address in my in-box. If I see that little paper clip "attachment" icon, then I start thinking "oh god, here we go again..." I have responded to only one of my "pen pals." This guy was lying on a sofa, propped up on a zillion pillows, holding a steaming mug of something. I was concerned for his safety, and sent this message: "Naked men and hot beverages don't mix! I hope there's a good burn center where you live." No response so far... Crackers - I have to ask - who took your photo? A friend? Girlfriend? Landlord? Used a timer and did the self-portrait thing? Just curious. (Personally, I like the thought of you asking your landlord to lend a hand.) :-) Back to the job hunt... Cheers, - - M. - -- Melissa R. Jordan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:11:24 -0500 From: MacSuirtain Subject: Re: Alloy: Needles to Naked Men... RThurF@aol.com wrote: > << "Thomas from Paris" (who was naked on a Harley) >> > > Whoo hoo! Send him to me! Hey, Robin! If I can remember where he is on the computer, he's all yours! - -- Melissa R. Jordan, Misfit Toy Don't forget -- the restored, enhanced version of "Rudolph" is on tonight. "But I wanna be a dentist!" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 18:31:52 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Needles In a message dated 11/30/98 12:41:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, crackers@hwcn.org writes: << Speaking of photos of naked men... I found a negative of a nude photo I had taken of myself in my first year of college for a girlfriend. >> Send me a copy of this, will you crackers? C'mon, I showed you mine! Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 21:32:17 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: fighting Buddhists In a message dated 11/29/98 12:29:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, wearart@erols.com writes: << Someone in the audience asked him why, considering the philosophy of Buddhism, there were so many vicious regimes and bloody civil wars in Buddhist nations. His answer, "Well, there are many nasty Buddhists!" >> Did I hear recently about a scuffle taking place within a Tibetan monastery? There was some sort of a fistfight concerning the appointment of their next spiritual leader, or something like that. I'm serious! I heard it on the BBC. Hundreds of monks were supposedly punching & kicking each other over this (??) & it had to be broken up by the cops! Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 22:13:22 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Live Wireless/ CIA agents In a message dated 11/29/98 12:12:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, wearart@erols.com writes: << I had A&H on tape in the car. I sat there and listened to it while I wept buckets and some of the songs were way too painful. Not again for a long time. At the airport, he handed me his VHS copy of "Live Wireless" that he'd just won on eBay. He said that, since he was going off to have some fun, I should enjoy watching it by myself. I've never seen Thomas perform, but I can't bring myself to watch it, especially as it was a sort of "here, this is your consolation prize" kind of thing.>> This was a completely nasty thing for him to infer. I can understand your feelings all too well. He sounds so much like that guy I told you about in my letter. Did all these guys graduate from the same trade school somewhere? Anyway... I know it's rough. Don't let him keep you from enjoying an extremely good film though (Live Wireless!) One look at Thomas' drop-dead sexy smouldering gaze - no one can smoulder like our Thomas, and that's a fact - and I guarantee you'll forget all about old what's-his-name in two seconds flat. <> This is an amazing story!! Yes, I would DEFINITELY have laughed too if it'd been me... no two ways about it. David Lynch could not have come up with a better set up. Do they do it on purpose, to weird people out? do you still have the packet? Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 22:32:33 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Alloy: Russian coat question I need to ask the advice of our more worldly Alloy members, concerning a Russian military greatcoat I have just purchased. I love this coat, it's nice & warm & I love the military cut of the shoulders especially. I'm planning to wear this as my winter coat.. but I have a dilemma. It's vintage 1950's or 60's, in excellent condition, grey with red striping on the collar, two gold stars on each shoulder, and the buttons are gold with a star symbol on them, and inside each star is a hammer & sickle. Considering that there is a huge Russian immigrant population in Boston, not to mention people from other former Eastern Bloc nations... do you think I should change the buttons, so at least the hammer & sickle insignia are no longer there? It may sound really silly, but I would feel just awful if I upset someone by wearing this. I'm even worried that if my friend who grew up in communist Poland saw me in it she might freak! Do you think I should just change the buttons to something plain? Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 22:49:05 -0500 From: MacSuirtain Subject: Re: Alloy: Russian coat question RThurF@aol.com wrote: > > I need to ask the advice of our more worldly Alloy members, concerning a > Russian military greatcoat I have just purchased. I love this coat, it's nice > & warm & I love the military cut of the shoulders especially. I'm planning to > wear this as my winter coat.. but I have a dilemma. It's vintage 1950's or They do make fab winter wear, those coats. I had one, too, once. My mechanic in Moscow also gave me his whole uniform, which was cool. The wool is soooo thick - lasts forever. > 60's, in excellent condition, grey with red striping on the collar, two gold > stars on each shoulder, and the buttons are gold with a star symbol on them, > and inside each star is a hammer & sickle. Considering that there is a huge Sounds like a dress uniform coat. Very nice. The buttons are standard issue (I have a bunch of them in silver that I bought somewhere in Russia years ago.) > Russian immigrant population in Boston, not to mention people from other > former Eastern Bloc nations... do you think I should change the buttons, so at > least the hammer & sickle insignia are no longer there? It may sound really More than upsetting anyone, you might want to remove them to save them for posterity. If they're like my silver ones, they're hollow and crushable. > silly, but I would feel just awful if I upset someone by wearing this. I'm > even worried that if my friend who grew up in communist Poland saw me in it > she might freak! Do you think I should just change the buttons to something > plain? It's not silly to think about these things. In fact, it's downright courteous. I used to wear a lot of Russian stuff. Most of the immigrants I know just shrug it off. Younger people often get a laugh out of it, some older people bristle. It's a mixed bag of reactions. I doubt you'd get too much of a rise from anyone, except for people asking you where you got the coat! - - M. - -- Melissa R. Jordan, who, as usual, cried tonight when the misfit toys thought Santa wasn't coming for them. God, I am such a sap. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 23:25:23 EST From: DThurkirk@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Needles In a message dated 11/30/98 10:09:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, wearart@erols.com writes: << Maybe not such a bad idea (for most people -- I could be arrested for even contemplating that!), but, if you become rich and famous, be sure to lock up the negatives. Just remember Dr. Laura. >> Who is this Dr. Laura person? I keep reading things about her being naked somewhere and I don't know who she is or why anyone would mind that she was naked. I just know that she says she was young and foolish when she was naked. __Dave T (oh to be young foolish and naked again) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 23:56:00 -0500 From: MacSuirtain Subject: Re: Alloy: Needles DThurkirk@aol.com wrote: > Who is this Dr. Laura person? I keep reading things about her being naked > somewhere and I don't know who she is or why anyone would mind that she was > naked. I just know that she says she was young and foolish when she was > naked. I think the one person who minds her being naked is Dr. Laura herself, since she has built herself up as this paragon of virtue and she sees this as tarnishing her rep as a "respected" radio talking head. (BTW, she's this sharp-tongued chica who dispenses sometimes decent, but usually snarky, snide, and not well-thought-out "advice" on a nationally-syndicated radio show.) I've listened to her once and got more and more annoyed with her as the show progressed. Lots of folks believe her PhD is in psychology, when, in fact, it is in physiology. > __Dave T (oh to be young foolish and naked again) Oh, Dave, you're still young, surely not foolish, and who says you can't be naked any time you want? Cheers, M. - -- Melissa R. Jordan Owner/Artist, Compass Rose Studios Unique Wearable Art in Large Sizes & Handstamped Handicrafts http://www.erols.com/jamesq/crs/welcome.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 23:49:38 EST From: DThurkirk@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Live Wireless/ CIA agents In a message dated 11/30/98 10:18:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, RThurF@aol.com writes: << The CIA recruited me, too, about 6 years ago, but I got the giggles something fierce during the pre-interview orientation and I think that finished me off. >> No one ever asks me to join any espionage organizations! Some people get all the luck. __Dave T ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 21:42:20 -0700 From: "Keith Stansell" Subject: Re: Alloy: Needles As very often is the case, the answer to the question is a URL away : http://www.drlaura.com But just to sum up - Dr. Laura has a syndicated radio show where people call in with their moral dilemmas. Now, go take on the day! - -Keith - -----Original Message----- From: DThurkirk@aol.com To: alloy@smoe.org Date: Monday, November 30, 1998 9:29 PM Subject: Re: Alloy: Needles > >In a message dated 11/30/98 10:09:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, >wearart@erols.com writes: > ><< Maybe not such a bad idea (for most people -- I could be arrested for > even contemplating that!), but, if you become rich and famous, be sure > to lock up the negatives. Just remember Dr. Laura. >> > >Who is this Dr. Laura person? I keep reading things about her being naked >somewhere and I don't know who she is or why anyone would mind that she was >naked. I just know that she says she was young and foolish when she was >naked. > >__Dave T (oh to be young foolish and naked again) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 21:46:35 -0800 From: Robyn Moore Subject: Re: Alloy: Russian coat question At 07:49 PM 11/30/98 , you wrote: >Melissa R. Jordan, who, as usual, cried tonight when the misfit toys >thought Santa wasn't coming for them. God, I am such a sap. Me too. At least now we both know we're not alone. :) BTW...get better soon. ::hugs:: Robyn M @ Robyn Moore @ http://www.alveus.com/kbrm/robyn.html @ You knew the job was dangerous when you took it. - S.C. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 22:08:55 -0800 From: Robyn Moore Subject: Alloy: Look What I Got Hello all, While at my in-laws' for Thanksgiving, I had Kevin scan the picture of Thomas from the Back 2 Back CD. If anyone wants a copy, feel free to mail me, and I'll send it to you. I already sent Robin a copy, so she can vouch for how great it is. :) Robyn M @ Robyn Moore @ http://www.alveus.com/kbrm/robyn.html @ You knew the job was dangerous when you took it. - S.C. ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V3 #321 ***************************