From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V3 #320 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Monday, November 30 1998 Volume 03 : Number 320 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: the new me [CJMark@aol.com] Re: Alloy: the new me [Chris Cracknell ] Re: Alloy: Laundry List [CJMark@aol.com] Re[4]: Alloy: All Dolby roads lead to Alloy [John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmail] Re: Alloy: Laundry List [MacSuirtain ] Re: Alloy: Laundry List [MacSuirtain ] Alloy: Needles [John Schofield ] Alloy: Hello list [Peter Fitzpatrick ] Re: Alloy: Needles [MacSuirtain ] Re: Re[4]: Alloy: All Dolby roads lead to Alloy ["I T Admin @ Govt Office] Re: Alloy: I am back / no access to Flat Earth ["I T Admin @ Govt Office ] Re: Alloy: Hello list [MacSuirtain ] Re: Alloy: Needles ["Charles E. Kemp" ] Re: Alloy: Needles to Naked Men... [MacSuirtain ] Re: Alloy: Needles [Chris Cracknell ] Re: Alloy: I am back / no access to Flat Earth ["zoe mcneish" Subject: Re: Alloy: the new me In article <2.2.32.19981129004113.006ba0e4@gtnet.gov.uk>, you wrote: >PS I tried to send this TWICE from my office PC but it didn't take, so now >I'm trying it from home. Wha's goin' on? ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ I'm telling you it's the anal probe! CRACKERS (Damn those aliens! Damn them all from hell!!) - -- Collector of Atari 2600 carts - Accordionist - Bira Bira Devotee - Anime fan * http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html | Crackers' Arts Base * * http://www.angelfire.com/ma/hozervideo/index.html | Hozer Video Games * Nihongo ga dekimasu - 2600 programmer - Father of 2 great kids - Canadian eh ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 02:42:57 EST From: CJMark@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Laundry List Welcome Back.. Melissa! That was some list!! Hope the wrists improve! Ciao for now.. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:46:18 -0600 From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com Subject: Re[4]: Alloy: All Dolby roads lead to Alloy - --IMA.Boundary.126043219 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part I was in the UK a few weeks back & saw the excellent "Have I Got News For You", which was a non-stop tirade against PM. They even showed the directive from Birt about mentioning Mandelsson, to which the reponse of Deayton was "oops !" I couldn't stop laughing all through the program. John ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Re[2]: Alloy: All Dolby roads lead to Alloy Author: "I T Admin @ Govt Office North West" at Internet Date: 29/11/1998 00:41 At 18:36 27/11/98 -0500, Rochelle wrote: > >Message text written by INTERNET:alloy@smoe.org >>>But certainly not Peter Mandelsson. Apparently. > > >Wheeeeeeeeee ...........sploooosh. I think THAT one might have gone WAY >over the heads of out colonial cousins and landed in the Specific Ocean. >< > >Well! I've been out working a second job (it seemed like a fun idea when I >thought of it but I'm not questioning my sanity), and I'm struggling to go >through all this mail. Yes, I'll admit this was miles over my colonial >head. Dare I ask the reference (I'm fearing that I may sound ignorant in >asking but I'm doing so anyway)? > >Rochelle > Peter Mandelsson is a prominent English politician, a prime mover and shaker at the moment, but it's been alleged that he's gay. This might be enough of a revelation in its own right, but now the BBC has been banned from making any mention of this chap as he's a friend of John Burt, the chief honcho at the Beeb. This goes against the grain as far as a lot of the Beeb staff are concerned, as they've always prided themselves on being impartial and reporting the news without fear of censorship. Needless to say, some Beeb broadcasters are finding imaginative ways of NOT saying things about 'he who shall not be named' in such a way that no one is in any doubt about who they mean. Slarv - --IMA.Boundary.126043219 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from ns1.baxter.com (159.198.180.56) by ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 006FDC82; Sat, 28 Nov 98 18:48:36 - -0600 Received: from siren.shore.net (siren.shore.net [207.244.124.5]) by ns1.baxter.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA26893 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 18:48:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] by siren.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) id 0zjuyZ-0004Ji-00; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 19:44:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id TAA19562; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 19:40:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 19:40:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id TAA19521 for alloy-outgoing; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 19:39:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from ginas.gtnet.gov.uk (ginas.gtnet.gov.uk [195.44.96.1]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with ESMTP id TAA19511 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 19:39:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from az36 (d37.gtnet.gov.uk [195.44.98.37]) by ginas.gtnet.gov.uk with SMTP id AAA07304 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:39:19 GMT Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981129004115.006b7390@gtnet.gov.uk> X-Sender: az36@gtnet.gov.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:41:15 +0000 To: alloy@smoe.org From: "I T Admin @ Govt Office North West" Subject: Re: Re[2]: Alloy: All Dolby roads lead to Alloy Sender: owner-alloy@smoe.org Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. Precedence: bulk - --IMA.Boundary.126043219-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:11:39 -0500 From: MacSuirtain Subject: Re: Alloy: Laundry List RThurF@aol.com wrote: > > Did he take Astronauts & Heretics with him? That S.O.B.! Actually, no -- he did take my very, very hard-to-find Iguanas "Nuevo Boogaloo" disc with him, though, the creep. I had A&H on tape in the car. I sat there and listened to it while I wept buckets and some of the songs were way too painful. Not again for a long time. At the airport, he handed me his VHS copy of "Live Wireless" that he'd just won on eBay. He said that, since he was going off to have some fun, I should enjoy watching it by myself. I've never seen Thomas perform, but I can't bring myself to watch it, especially as it was a sort of "here, this is your consolation prize" kind of thing. > <<11. Had a belated birthday dinner with my friend the CIA agent (which > was really, really strange)>> > > You MUST tell us all about it, you've intrigued me (and everyone else here, > I'm sure!) The strangest part about it is she is the person least likely to be, in my mind, a CIA agent - which is probably why she's so good. The CIA recruited me, too, about 6 years ago, but I got the giggles something fierce during the pre-interview orientation and I think that finished me off. You see, I figured they were calling me in for a Langley desk job (translating Russian, that sort of thing) and, when I got there (mind you, I was dressed in a paisley skirt, purple jacket, and lavender suede pumps) I found a room full of serious-looking young people, all in sensible navy blue or black. Turned out, they'd picked me as a likely candidate for covert operations (bwah-hah-hah-hah-hah), and they proceeded to show us a video about spying that actually included part of a James Bond film (remember when he swims underwater with the dead bird/breathing tube thing on his head?) I was astounded. Then this guy in an ice cream white suit (with a blue polka dotted tie) came out and told us about "spy camp." Successful candidates would be sent to the wilds of Virginia to learn how to rappel down buildings, survive in the woods, eat bugs, etc. Sounded like a very scary girl scout camp (with no S'mores.) I had to wait almost 4 freaking hours for my interview, and, when I got in, they didn't even really interview me. The guy who spoke to me was named Michael Mouse (hahahahaha), and he already had a file on me. Said I'd probably worked with some of our people in Moscow, and handed me this incredibly long application packet. I had essays to write, lists to make of any foreigners I EVER had contact with (oh so easy for someone who's lived overseas for 5 years, eh?), etc., etc. I'd already decided this wasn't the life for me (they did ask me if I'd have any problems manipulating people to lie and turn against their country - isn't that one hell of an interview question?!?!?) and, although they'd told me to tell no one I was interviewing for this job, I went home and called just about everyone I knew and gave them a dramatic reading of the crap in the packet. > <<12. Finally sent something off (my Thailand story) to a magazine to see > if my stuff is worthy of being published... > It's more than worthy - you are an incredible writer! How long do you have to > wait before you hear anything from the magazine people? Well, thanks for saying that -- you're way too kind. It could be months before I hear from them. Oy. Fingers and toes are crossed. Cheers, M. - -- Melissa R. Jordan, Misfit Toy "Nobody wants a Charlie-in-the-Box." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:28:52 -0500 From: MacSuirtain Subject: Re: Alloy: Laundry List I T Admin @ Govt Office North West wrote: > >RE:cortisone shots in my wrists > > > Sorry to hear this, you'll have to get hold of some voice recognition > software to ease the stress on your wrists. Thanks for the thought -- actually, it looks like I'll have to have this crummy carpal tunnel surgery in a few months, if this treatment and use of wrist supports (and taking it easier on the keyboard) doesn't help. Almost all of my sisters, plus my mom, have had to have this done. They all have these creepy scars on their wrists. Some scars are sexy -- some really, really aren't! > >2. Saw Harrison Ford across a street and nearly got run down trying to > >get closer > This is all wrong, HE should have nearly been run down trying to get close > to YOU!! Ha! I love it! I was waiting for someone at California Tortilla, a little cafe in downtown Bethesda, and he was walking out of this pricey Italian place across the street (with director Sidney Pollack.) It was the last week of shooting in DC for their new movie ("Random Hearts" with Kristen Scott Thomas.) I knew a lot of people who had spotted him around town, and it was killing me. After all, I'm the one with the vintage 1977 autographed Han Solo photo on my desk (I wrote to Ford and said, "All my friends like Luke Skywalker, but I think Han Solo is the best. I think you will be very famous someday.") Ford's signature is so illegible, "Harrison Ford" looks like "Happijon Ronz," which is what my close friends call him. > >3. Wished someone well, said an agonizing goodbye, got my heart broken... > There could be a mini-series in the making here. Tell it to your friend who > writes for ER. Yeah, but they'd re-cast me as some gorgeous startlet, and then there'd have been no reason for him to fly off to Norway in the first place! > >8. Saw the Dalai Lama and laughed a lot > See him on TV a few times. Seems like a nice chap, good sense of humour, > despite what's happening in his homeland. He really was amazing - and a delight to listen to. There was a lot of laughter, even as he talked about the problems of Tibet. Someone in the audience asked him why, considering the philosophy of Buddhism, there were so many vicious regimes and bloody civil wars in Buddhist nations. His answer, "Well, there are many nasty Buddhists!" He said there was nothing in particular he missed about Tibet -- each time the monsoons sweep across India, he does miss the gentle breezes and light rain he remembers in Lhasa, but that was it. Fascinating man -- and it was interesting to hear him speak Tibetan - I don't think I'd ever heard it spoken before. > >11. Had a belated birthday dinner with my friend the CIA agent (which > >was really, really strange) > Another mini-series cooking here. Something along the lines of The Pelican > Brief perhaps? Ha, again! I'm afraid it would be way too mundane for that -- most of our conversation was about what a pain in the butt it is to work with State Department bureaucrats. I had more interesting conversations with my neighbors in Moscow. Those were great because, when we had something to say that we didn't want the KGB to hear, we actually had to write it down, read it, and then burn it in my ashtray. The lamps have ears. > >12. Finally sent something off (my Thailand story) to a magazine to see > >if my stuff is worthy of being published... > WE know it's worth it, but DO THEY? God bless you. Well, I'll let you know if anyone else likes it. > Good to have you back anyway. It is good to be back. Better go read the Sunday employment ads now. (Bleech.) Cheers, M. - -- Melissa R. Jordan, Freelance Dilettante ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:04:54 +-1100 From: John Schofield Subject: Alloy: Needles Welcome home Melissa!. Sounds like you've had quite an interesting few weeks (one way or another). I can relate to those nasty needle-things. I have to take a particularly nasty drug at the moment which requires me to have fortnightly blood tests. Problem is that the Doctors can never find a vein in my arm so they have to take it from the back of my hands. Hate that. TTFN. John (john@police.tas.gov.au) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:19:01 -0000 From: Peter Fitzpatrick Subject: Alloy: Hello list I don't know why it has taken me so long to get around to finding and subbing to a TMDR list. I'm looking at a (laserdisc) copy of Live Wireless. Which leads me to ask - any plans to release this gem on DVD ? Better still - is there a video compilation anywhere ? - -Peter ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:18:42 -0500 From: MacSuirtain Subject: Re: Alloy: Needles John Schofield wrote: >I can relate to those nasty needle-things. I have to take a particularly nasty drug at the moment which >requires me to have fortnightly blood tests. Problem is that the Doctors can never find a vein in my arm so >they have to take it from the back of my hands. Hate that. Oh, god! That sounds really, really awful! I feel for you in such a big way. Usually, I don't have a problem giving blood, but last year, after one of my trips, I got so sick and dehydrated they had to poke me for 20 minutes until they found a likely spot (I was hallucinating swirling purple flames at the time.) God bless you for having the fortitude to put up with that. Cheers, Melissa - -- Melissa R. Jordan, who wishes that strange men would stop showing appreciation for her website by sending her naked pictures of themselves, ta very much. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 01:01:03 +0000 From: "I T Admin @ Govt Office North West" Subject: Re: Re[4]: Alloy: All Dolby roads lead to Alloy At 12:46 29/11/98 -0600, you wrote: > > I was in the UK a few weeks back & saw the excellent "Have I Got News > For You", which was a non-stop tirade against PM. They even showed the > directive from Birt about mentioning Mandelsson, to which the reponse > of Deayton was "oops !" I couldn't stop laughing all through the > program. > > John > > Ah yes, a programme I try hard not to miss. They're still running with the Mandelsonn theme, and are still getting away with it. I bet Mr Birt is biting the carpet wondering how he can stop them without bringing the game into disrepute himself. Slarv ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 01:01:05 +0000 From: "I T Admin @ Govt Office North West" Subject: Re: Alloy: I am back / no access to Flat Earth At 10:41 26/11/98 PST, Zoe, Alex, Caroline452 wrote: > > >Slarv, > o.k...I admit I owe you an explanation. Here goes... > My REAL name is Zoe McNeish but I use the pseudonym Alex 'cos I feel >it's more aesthetic (was also nickname at school cos of my obsession >with the book "A Clockwork Orange"- main character Alex DeLarge!) > The Caroline452 bit? THREE psuedonyms! Heck, I'm just being evasive! > > Hope that clears up any confusion....( I'm even confusing myself >here!!) > > Zoe, Alex, Caroline452, whatever! > And another thing, are you the same Caroline452 who used to post to the FES Chat Room? If so, where the hell have you been, we had to start without you. Slarvibarglhee ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:06:14 -0500 From: MacSuirtain Subject: Re: Alloy: Hello list Peter Fitzpatrick wrote: > I'm looking at a (laserdisc) copy of Live Wireless. Which leads me to ask - > any plans to release this gem on DVD ? Better still - is there a video > compilation anywhere ? Hi, Peter, Good to meet you. Live Wireless is available on VHS (if you are lucky enough to find one floating around on the Internet.) I have someone else's copy in my possession right now, as a matter of fact (still can't make myself watch it, darn it). There is at least one video compilation, too -- The Golden Age of Video, which features the videos for 12 songs. If you try some used Internet places like promusicfind.com, you can find copies used. (There are two copies out there right now -- a little pricey for my blood, but, then again, I'm a cheap girl.) Promusicfind.com also has a lot of Dolby vinyl - lots of singles - right now. You might try eBay, too. I've seen The Golden Age of Video out there a couple of times. (Just do a search for "Thomas Dolby" -- I learned the hard way -- just "Dolby" gets you a long list of stereo equipment. I know, I get a big "DUH" for that one.) Cheers, Melissa - -- Melissa R. Jordan Owner/Artist, Compass Rose Studios Unique Wearable Art in Large Sizes & Handstamped Handicrafts http://www.erols.com/jamesq/crs/welcome.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:04:36 -0800 (PST) From: "Charles E. Kemp" Subject: Re: Alloy: Needles Melissa sez... > Melissa R. Jordan, who wishes that strange men would stop showing > appreciation for her website by sending her naked pictures of > themselves, ta very much. > Damn, caught again! ****** Charles E. Kemp ****** cekemp@netcom.com ****** (812) 597-5950 ****** Just for the sake of it make sure you're always frowning, it shows the world that you've got substance and depth. - Neil Tennant ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:45:58 -0500 From: MacSuirtain Subject: Re: Alloy: Needles to Naked Men... Charles E. Kemp wrote: > Damn, caught again! A-ha! So you're Thor, eh? Heh heh heh heh heh. Yes, a naked (and aroused) man calling himself Thor sent me his photo today. Over the past month, apparently, my Compass Rose web site has become popular with fetishist European men who like large women. All of these guys have sent naked pictures as calling cards. Lucky me. First it was "Jo from Denmark" (who found my phone number using four11.com, dammit), then "Walter from Berlin" and "Thomas from Paris" (who was naked on a Harley), then "Lawrence, the male nurse from suburban London," and now, Thor. Just "Thor." No country of origin (although I can guess), no additional information (although I bet I could peg him in a police lineup on the basis of... uh... distinguishing marks...) The least these guys could do is order a jacket or t-shirt! This is a form of notoriety I hadn't planned on. One of my sisters today suggested making a collage. Another sister said, "Send 'em to me - -- I'll make fridge art!" Oy vey! If I get a picture labeled "Chuck," at least I'll know where it came from. :-) Ha! Cheers, Melissa - -- Melissa R. Jordan, hoping to find (or be found by) a semi-normal guy someday ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 00:35:29 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Re: Alloy: Needles In article <199811300404.UAA08069@netcom15.netcom.com>, you wrote: >Melissa sez... > >> Melissa R. Jordan, who wishes that strange men would stop showing >> appreciation for her website by sending her naked pictures of >> themselves, ta very much. ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ Speaking of photos of naked men... I found a negative of a nude photo I had taken of myself in my first year of college for a girlfriend. I was 18/19 at the time and in many ways the photo is quite funny. At the time I took the photo I was trying for "sexy and sophisticated" like one of those black and white artsy nudes. But now that I look at the negative it just comes off as "Crackers poses for Kiddie Porn". Even though I was of legal age at the time I looked like I was 16 and if that's not bad enough, the room I was renting in college used to be the room of my roomates 11 year old son. So here I am naked on the bed, trying to look sexy and sophisticated posing infront of a wall with race car wallpaper. And to make it worse I'm laying on the Ducky quilt my grandmother made for me and my bed has either my "Blackhole" (remember that movie?) or "M.A.S.H." pillowcases and bedsheets on it (I'll have to make myself a print sometime to tell for sure). File this one under "What the hell was I thinking". Still, it is nice to have a nude picture of myself when I was still youthful and trim. It might not be a bad idea for everyone to take a nude photo of themselves when they're in their prime to admire later when the flower of youth has faded (or the beer of gut has expanded ;). I guess I'll have to make a print to scan and send it to Melissa after I've visited her website (or does it have to be a current pic?) CRACKERS (Letting it all hang out from hell!!!) - -- Collector of Atari 2600 carts - Accordionist - Bira Bira Devotee - Anime fan * http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html | Crackers' Arts Base * * http://www.angelfire.com/ma/hozervideo/index.html | Hozer Video Games * Nihongo ga dekimasu - 2600 programmer - Father of 2 great kids - Canadian eh ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:17:10 PST From: "zoe mcneish" Subject: Re: Alloy: I am back / no access to Flat Earth Hi Slarv! In answer to your question: No, I'm not the same Caroline452...I'm er,new here. Alex > > >At 10:41 26/11/98 PST, Zoe, Alex, Caroline452 wrote: >> >> >>Slarv, >> o.k...I admit I owe you an explanation. Here goes... >> My REAL name is Zoe McNeish but I use the pseudonym Alex 'cos I feel >>it's more aesthetic (was also nickname at school cos of my obsession >>with the book "A Clockwork Orange"- main character Alex DeLarge!) >> The Caroline452 bit? THREE psuedonyms! Heck, I'm just being evasive! >> >> Hope that clears up any confusion....( I'm even confusing myself >>here!!) >> >> Zoe, Alex, Caroline452, whatever! >> > >And another thing, are you the same Caroline452 who used to post to the FES >Chat Room? If so, where the hell have you been, we had to start without you. > >Slarvibarglhee > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V3 #320 ***************************