From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V3 #304 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Thursday, November 12 1998 Volume 03 : Number 304 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: intros..? [ljackson@nstar.net (Lee Jackson)] Re: Alloy: Back to Back [Robyn Moore ] Alloy: Howard Jones ["Keith Stansell" ] Re: Alloy: journal keeping [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Dolby Covers & Robin's Picture [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Dolby Covers [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Howard Jones [CJMark@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Dolby Covers & Robin's Picture [CJMark@aol.com] Re: Alloy: journal keeping [RThurF@aol.com] Alloy: thanx [Sir Moog ] Re: Alloy: journal keeping [RThurF@aol.com] Alloy: Re: alloy-digest V3 #303 [mary@headspace.com (Mary Coller)] Re: Alloy: Dolby Covers & Robin's Picture ["I T Admin @ Govt Office North] Re: Alloy: journal keeping [Rochelle Kirby <104040.2055@compuserve.com>] Re: Alloy: Dolby Covers & Robin's Picture [CJMark@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Re: alloy-digest V3 #303 [Brian Clayton ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:27:09 GMT From: ljackson@nstar.net (Lee Jackson) Subject: Re: Alloy: intros..? I see that the intros are flying north again, so here we go. I won't bore those in the group who don't want to read (or have already read) my biographical info. Instead, I provide the following for those interested in this sort of thing: http://web.nstar.net/~ljackson http://www.3drealms.com/bio/jackson.html The first is my home page, the Game Music and Sound Design Center, also known as the Under Construction for Too Many Months Center. ;-) There's a link to a bio page to be found on the navigation bar. The second is the bio page as posted on the site run by Apogee/3D Realms, my employer. Remove the /bio/jackson.html bit if you want to go to the main page of the site - as posted, the URL will take you straight to my bio page. // Lee Jackson (leej@3drealms.com) // Music and Sound Director // Apogee Software, Ltd. & 3D Realms Entertainment ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:23:04 -0800 From: Robyn Moore Subject: Re: Alloy: Back to Back At 10:21 PM 11/10/98 , you wrote: >You can scan at Kinko's .. but it costs around $10 per page! You might want >to try and find a friend who has a scanner and plan a dinner or something to >get yourself some scanning time! Good luck! Hm...I'll have to start surveying my friends, then. I knew of a friend with a scanner, but he and his wife (one of my closer friends) moved to Seattle yesterday. I know we'll still be able to talk online, but that doesn't stop me from being broken up about it. :( Come to think of it, I believe my in-laws have a scanner. If I haven't found another source by then, I'll try to remember to take the CD with me when we go for Thanksgiving. Robyn M This message powered by the spirit of "I Love You, Goodbye". @ Robyn Moore @ http://www.alveus.com/kbrm/robyn.html @ You knew the job was dangerous when you took it. - S.C. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 06:40:56 -0700 From: "Keith Stansell" Subject: Alloy: Howard Jones I just recalled a bit of my youth last night. I saw Howard Jones play here in Denver last night. A great show and very different from when I saw him a few years ago. This time he had three musicians backing him up and had quite an "electric" show. For someone who's music was originally very keyboard based, there were a lot of times he walked away from the keyboards and sang along with just guitar and drums accompaniment. When he did play the keyboards, it was mostly just an old organ (very old, with a clear back so you could see the tubes in it), one synth, or an electric piano. When I saw him a few years ago he played just an electric piano with a percussionist. Different, but also very good. If he comes to your town I definitely recommend you see the show. But I couldn't help but thinking as I watched one of my High School favorites so close and clear in a small theater setting...I wish it was another English keyboard heavy musician from my High School days up there. Note to Thomas....he looked like he was having a blast. - -Keith ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:31:29 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: journal keeping In a message dated 11/10/98 10:07:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, Rochelle writes: << As mentioned above, I'm not a journal keeper (yes, I kept one in high school but that was just cuz I felt like I was supposed to), but I recently started one because my husband and I are starting to try to have a family and I want my children to be able to read what I was feeling and doing at this time in my life. I have a very clear idea of what my journal is for (much like Slarv is doing). Perhaps you need to decide who the journal is for, you or someone else. And, as Mark (I think) pointed out, don't read it till much time has passed. You may think you aren't a worthy but your postings here prove otherwise (I think Mark also said this). Perhaps it's because you know your audience here?? >> Thanks :) It's a huge compliment. Knowing who I'm speaking to definitely makes me feel like there's some point to it & I've always loved to write letters. I think what bothers me about journals is that there is a certain warmth lacking when one just writes the date at the top of the page & then starts rambling on (at least there is when i do it!) as if to thin air. I feel very boring doing this! Considering the diary as a sort of communication could make all the difference. Anne Frank addressed her entries directly to the journal itself as if it were a pen pal or confidant, and to this day you can still hear her 'voice' in these entries, she was an extraordinary writer. Maybe I should imagine writing to someone I feel close to. I do keep scrapbooks at least, stylebooks of sorts, which I love... of pictures I see in magazines of beautiful furniture, objects, interesting weird clothing, articles about fascinating things, cards & letters from friends, my own drawings etc! A huge mishmash of stuff... maybe this sort of more visual recordkeeping is more 'me' :) One further note on written journals... my friend who is a writer is doing a really unique role-playing game in which I'm participating (sort of a romantic alternate universe space story, but with many twists) via the internet... and my character makes journal entries which describe her action in response to the story. I never have any trouble writing my fictitious character's entries... but maybe that's because I feel like I'm really writing to my friend John who is compiling the game? Or that John writes the interim action so beautifully it's easy for me to respond. I'll have to ponder all of this. Thanks everyone for your comments on the matter! Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:36:42 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Dolby Covers & Robin's Picture In a message dated 11/10/98 8:13:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, help.gonw.st@gtnet.gov.uk writes: << I really lost the thread there for a minute (well, half a day actually) as I've been picking up my mail both at work and at home, so sometimes I get a bit confused. In this case I was initially under the impression that we were talking about Rochelle's reactions to seeing those of us whose visages grace the scrap book, and for some reason, the Medicine Show pages as well. And I thought, "well, I've heard of some pet names for FFB's before, but I didn't think 'my ferret' was one of them." Pardon me for my very rude thoughts. (I think it's me age, my dears.) >> LOL!! Don't worry Slarv, I can see how this might have happened! My fault entirely :) Robin T (still laughing!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:50:52 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Dolby Covers Michael, thanks for posting your scans of Thomas' photos, articles & magazine covers! I especially love the 'Musician' cover photo, with the headline "Is Thomas Dolby User-Friendly?" coupled with Thomas' somewhat apprehensive- looking facial expression, peering out from behind his shades :) And the very large keyboard with all black keys on another of his covers has me staring..! Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:53:15 EST From: CJMark@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Howard Jones Hey Keith.. It was good to hear about the Howard Jones concert. I particularly liked your comment to Thomas regarding how much fun Howard was having! Hopefully, Mr. Dolby will listen to his inner voice.. and make it an outer voice for us all to hear soon! Ciao for now.. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:07:21 EST From: CJMark@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Dolby Covers & Robin's Picture Hey Slarv.. I got a laugh from your comment too.. but what the heck is an FFB? Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:10:35 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: journal keeping In a message dated 11/11/98 1:03:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, Beth writes: << Invariably, the "crises" turned out to be incredibly trivial, so there would be this one incredibly maudlin entry about some stupid thing, and then another entry dated years later that acknowledged the triviality of the first entry and then went on about some other stupid thing. While the events that inspired the later two books were far from trivial -- amazing how life eventually gives you a perspective on what does and does not constitute a crisis -- now that I've pretty much healed, they would probably seem equally maudlin and strange. Plus, it would not be pleasant to relive the times. >> I also would dislike re-reading entries from previous bad times. Even if they seem blown out of proportion by whatever my current standards might have become, it would still be clear how agonizing they were at the time & I wouldn't like to be drawn back to those specific states of mind. I think they only seem trivial to you now because they were in fact resolved one way or another... and in re-reading you're seeing them from an 'over and done with' perspective. Being stuck in a bad situation, you can only do your best (though it may seem like it wasn't good enough, or that it was silly, when you're looking back on them) Robin T ------------------------------ Date: 11/11/98 11:21:01 AM Eastern Standard Time Hi, Thnx for the warm welcome. There was so little info on TMDR in Pakistan and I even didn't have much luck in old magazine shops in London. I also wrote to him on the Flat Earth web site, but he didn't reply (I'm not surprised). >Forgive me if I'm being to personal but what brought you to Pakistan from London? (They say curiousity killed that cat and I'll admit to being a Leo.) Its ok... actually I was born in Pakistan but moved to London when I was 12. Thats where I got into 80's music... It also helps because my mother works for the airlines. Finally just to let you guys know, that I have a site on new wave music, which you can find at: http://members.xoom.com.sirmoog and if you're just curious about what I look like then just goto this address: http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/sensible/10/mypics.html Anyway, its great to be on the list and just can't wait to take part in discussions -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sir Moog Subject: Alloy: thanx - ---- Sir Mini "The Neuromantic" Moog: http://members.xoom.com/sirmoog Sir Moog's New Wave/New Romantic/Synthpop Page ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- E-mail: sir_moog@hotmail.com / neuromantic@hotmail.com / sirmoog@nexlinx.net.pk / sirmoog@mailexcite.com ICQ#: 14691166 AIM: sir_moog@hotmail.com >> Sender: owner-alloy@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:03:57 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: journal keeping << One further note on written journals... my friend who is a writer is doing a really unique role-playing game in which I'm participating (sort of a romantic alternate universe space story, but with many twists) via the internet... and my character makes journal entries which describe her action in response to the story. I never have any trouble writing my fictitious character's entries... but maybe that's because I feel like I'm really writing to my friend John who is compiling the game? Or that John writes the interim action so beautifully it's easy for me to respond. >> Uhh.. one other crucial aspect of the game journal is that I'm writing a story, not writing about the real events in my life!! Subtle yet significant! Even though the character is essentially me in the guise of outer space royalty, there is rather a difference between working out strategies to deal with an evil psychic overlord, and having mashed potatoes for dinner.. hee hee! Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Nov 98 16:03:34 -0800 From: mary@headspace.com (Mary Coller) Subject: Alloy: Re: alloy-digest V3 #303 Hello Alloy-ites, I am happy to inform you that the Flat Earth Society is back on line!!!! www.thomas-dolby.com I have not yet found anyone to care for it on a permanent basis so please be patient! I will keep you informed of it's progress... Best, Mary Coller Mary Coller Management (TMDR's manager) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 00:40:43 +0000 From: "I T Admin @ Govt Office North West" Subject: Re: Alloy: Dolby Covers & Robin's Picture At 12:07 11/11/98 EST, Mark wrote: > >Hey Slarv.. > >I got a laugh from your comment too.. but what the heck is an FFB? > >Mark > > Uh, oh! Well, this is easy to say, but how it came about may be a little more complicated. OK, first the answer to your question, which is 'Furry Front Bottom.' You may ask yourself, 'Why do some Alloyists know about FFBs, and others not?' This actually goes back to our days in the Chat Room at the Flat Earth Society. If I remember correctly, there was a thread in which we were discussing abbreviations of one sort or another, and possible alternatives. The one which sticks in my mind was UFO. There were a number of different suggestions and I rather think I suggested, among others, Unbelievably (or possibly Unfeasibly) Fierce Orgasms. FFBs came up a little later in the thread, along with a lot of other stuff that I simply can't remember now, and despite what other FES members might say, I did NOT keep a copy of all the threads, only the chapters of The Emeritus Professor. I have to say that FFB was a term I was not familiar with until it came up in the FES. So now you know. Slarvibarglhee ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:12:17 -0500 From: Rochelle Kirby <104040.2055@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: Alloy: journal keeping Message text written by INTERNET:alloy@smoe.org >Even though the character is essentially me in the guise of outer space royalty,< Is this anything like the Man on the Moon character (so wonderfully played by Robin Williams) in "The Adventures of Baron Von Munchausen? Rochelle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:56:57 EST From: CJMark@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Dolby Covers & Robin's Picture Hey Slarv.. LOL... that is quite funny.. and thanks for your explanation.. I'll immediately install it into my own vocabulary.. Ciao for now.. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:10:25 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) From: Brian Clayton Subject: Re: Alloy: Re: alloy-digest V3 #303 On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, Mary Coller wrote: > I am happy to inform you that the Flat Earth Society is back on line!!!! > www.thomas-dolby.com Hi Mary! Good news! I was just wondering today about the state of the newly-relocated site. Glad to see it alive again! BC - --- Brian Clayton "Anyway, it's not me that's mad, it's the rest stemish@lns.com of the world. Aaaaaaaahh!" -- TMDR ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V3 #304 ***************************