From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V3 #302 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Tuesday, November 10 1998 Volume 03 : Number 302 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: photos for Alloy page [RThurF@aol.com] Alloy: Dolby Cover Pics [Chris Cracknell ] Re: Alloy: Dolby Cover Pics [Jeff Wasilko ] Re: Alloy: intros..? ["Michael and Denise Luckey" ] Alloy: Dolby Covers & Robin's Picture ["Michael and Denise Luckey" > The page is arranged by Alloy's founder Paul Baily, whose address is You can write to him & ask for specifics (ie, have the photo emailed to him as a prescanned image, or mail him an original photo... I think he can do it either way) Can't wait to see you! Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:52:22 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Alloy: Dolby Cover Pics I've scanned the Dolby Keyboard Magazine cover pics and can probably zip the three photos together to make a package of about 170K. Everyone who wants one send me an email request and I'll Fmail everyone the packet all at once. Or if it's okay with everyone I can send the packet straight to alloy. CRACKERS (Love my scanner from hell!!) - -- Collector of Atari 2600 carts - Accordionist - Bira Bira Devotee - Anime fan * http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html | Crackers' Arts Base * * http://www.angelfire.com/ma/hozervideo/index.html | Hozer Video Games * Nihongo ga dekimasu - 2600 programmer - Father of 2 great kids - Canadian eh ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:00:18 -0500 From: Jeff Wasilko Subject: Re: Alloy: Dolby Cover Pics On Mon, Nov 09, 1998 at 10:52:22AM -0500, Chris Cracknell wrote: > > > I've scanned the Dolby Keyboard Magazine cover pics and can probably zip > the three photos together to make a package of about 170K. > > Everyone who wants one send me an email request and I'll Fmail everyone > the packet all at once. Or if it's okay with everyone I can send the > packet straight to alloy. my internet connection would not appreciate that (and majordomo won't allow it, anyway). I'd be happy to put it up on a web server here if that would help. Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:23:15 -0800 From: "Michael and Denise Luckey" Subject: Re: Alloy: intros..? Greetings all! I missed the earlier round of intros but better late than never! I'm Michael Luckey and my wife Denise and I reside in Newport News, Va. where we've lived practically our whole lives. I'm a Dolby fan from the GAOW days and was pretty much hooked after seeing Europa on MTV back in their infancy. I did get the opportunity to see TMDR perform live at Va. Beach in 1984 on The Flat Earth tour-little did I know that his tours would become quite rare events themselves! I'm a little slanted towards Thomas' early work although my personal favorite is Valley of The Mind's Eye-a great video to go with that to boot! My wife enjoys Mr. Dolby to an extent-her personal favorites are Garth Brooks and Cheap Trick(quite the combo!). We both graduated from Old Dominion University in Norfolk in 1989 and although my job is boring she has the interesting occupation of an elephant trainer at the Norfolk Zoo. We have quite a few animals as you may have guessed including 2 cats, 3 dogs(a dalmatian, boxer, and a pug), a chinchilla, lots of fish, and 2 horses which she boards over in Smithfield. We both have colds today which is how I finally got some free time to post on Alloy. I'm also a big fan of '80's music and have enjoyed the current revival. In the past year we've had A Flock Of Seagulls, The Fixx, Bow Wow Wow, Echo and The Bunnymen, The Human League, Modern English, and Howard Jones all tour through Tidewater. Well that's some background info on me that will hopefully seve as a quick introduction and I look forward to talking to all on Alloy! M.L. - -----Original Message----- From: RThurF@aol.com To: alloy@smoe.org Date: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 3:16 PM Subject: Alloy: intros..? > >I think only five of us did new intros last week. is anyone else interested? >Don't be shy! > >Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:41:13 -0800 From: "Michael and Denise Luckey" Subject: Alloy: Dolby Covers & Robin's Picture I thought I might help on some of the Dolby covers in qustion. I've scanned the below images and you just need to click on the URL to go to them: Here's concert tickets from Dolby's 1984 show at Va. Beach: http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Court/2138/alloy1.jpg Here's some concert photos from an '82 show with Lene Lovich: http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Court/2138/alloy2.jpg Here's the earliest Keyboard article and cover I have. Hopefully you can read the pages as they're a little fuzzy: http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Court/2138/alloy3.jpg http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Court/2138/alloy4.jpg http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Court/2138/alloy5.jpg Here's 2 other early Dolby covers: http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Court/2138/alloy6.jpg http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Court/2138/alloy7.jpg For a great picture of our current listmaster click on: http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Court/2138/alloy8.jpg Lastly, here's my photo with TMDR: http://pages.prodigy.net/luckey7/dolby1.jpg Hope you like them! M.L. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:08:34 -0600 From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com Subject: Alloy: 80's music Been home to Selby this weekend, and whilst looking for something else, I found my diaries from 1980-82 when I was a student. It's like reading the work of another person - it's really not me in those pages. Funny in places, tedious in others. Something else - I was a real pig at times with the ladies. But if I read it as the work of someone else, then it's quite entertaining. I've changed, but my recent attack of "mardiness" as we used to say in Sheffield is nothing new - reading those pages I come across as a manic depressive ! So a potted history of my life, then it's back to silence once again. 1962 - 1980 Born in Fulford, York, lived in Selby with my folks. Only child. 1980 - 1981 Student, in digs in Sheffield. But still a Selby boy at heart, and came home a lot. 1981 - 1982 Student, YF & S, but with lots of short relationships, and one or two heavy ones. 1982 - 1984 Student, met first Fiancée, Kay 1984 - 1985 Started work as Operator (tape monkey). Split with Kay. 1985 - 1987 Promoted to programmer, met Nicola. 1987 - 1990 Bought house in Worksop, changed jobs & started working in Nottingham 1990 - 1993 Nic left me end of 1993. 1994 - 1996 Setteled down to life as single man, but met Béatrice in July 1994. 1996 - present Quit England, got job in France, moved in with Béa. Apologies to anyone I've ever hurt over the years, in particular Nyree, Fiona, Karen & Aline John PS Don't look back, but don't forget, either. Most of all, don't waste your life. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:07:54 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Alloy: more tales of police madness!! We were discussing tales of those few unscrupulous police officers taking complete unfair advantage of their authority (my friends travelling in Mexico to visit relatives, being pulled over in their rental car & robbed at gunpoint by uniformed cops!) ... well I've just heard yet another one which has me infuriated. The scene: about 3am two weeks ago, at a Big Boy restaurant in Toledo Ohio. Members of my fave band Royal Crown Revue & their road crew show up & order breakfast after their gig. Meanwhile a group of twelve local middle aged men already seated elsewhere in the restaurant & who are very drunk and disorderly begin to ridicule the visitors loudly & shoot paper napkin spit wads at them toward the end of their meal. (the band's singer Eddie Nichols has adjourned to the mens room & is not present for this) An argument ensues quickly... one of the local drunks and one of the band's roadies come face to face & the one drunk guy attacks the roadie. At this moment Eddie returns to the room to witness this scene, immediately gets between his friend & this drunk guy, and slaps the drunk local guy hard across the face. After a shocked moment of silence all eleven of the other drunk guys then begin to brutally attack Eddie and his friend & mace them... it turns out that all of these drunk local men are off-duty cops! Eddie & his friend are arrested, Eddie is charged with felony assault on a police officer & they keep him in jail for two days, causing them to miss their next two tour dates. The felony charge was dropped (the drunks had at no point indicated they were actually off-duty police officers) but then Eddie was immediately re-arrested before he even got out the door because another of the cops wanted to press misdemeanor charges due to an injured hand (injured when he punched it into Eddie's face!) After three days then Eddie was finally allowed to walk free, but must return in another week for a hearing on the misdemeanor charge. Through all of this, various cops at the precinct were openly threatening other members of the band & frankly, the band were fearing for their safety, trapped in Toledo for three days til Eddie was returned to them. This caused them to lose those two gigs & disappoint fans on their very first headliner tour. All of this information has come to me via two eye witnesses, a friend who was with them at the restaurant when this all occured, and the band's drummer Danny Glass. This incident has sparked an investigation by Internal Affairs into the behavior of the off-duty cops at the local Big Boy... and I'm sure this is not the end of it as far as Warner Brothers (RCR's record company) is concerned, either... but I haven't been able to stop thinking about it since I heard. I consider this a very serious situation with dire implications. To say it is aggrivating on every possible level is an extreme understatement! Do any of my fellow Alloyites live in or near Toledo? If so, if you could let me know anything more you might hear about this case I would be most appreciative. I think the hearing was scheduled for the 17th. Thanks for letting me bitch!! Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 01:02:20 +0000 From: "I T Admin @ Govt Office North West" Subject: Re: Alloy: 80's music At 18:08 09/11/98 -0600, John wrote: > > > Been home to Selby this weekend, and whilst looking for something > else, I found my diaries from 1980-82 when I was a student. It's like > reading the work of another person - it's really not me in those > pages. Funny in places, tedious in others. Something else - I was a > real pig at times with the ladies. But if I read it as the work of > someone else, then it's quite entertaining. This is interesting. I've never been one for keeping a diary, though I did try on a couple of occasions, one of which was when I was in my mid-teens. It was more of a book of occasional notes on how I was feeling at the time, than a proper diary. Looking back on it later I also seem to have been having a bad time of it. Perhaps it's a common thing to be depressed at that age. After all, it's a time when your 'whole life is ahead of you.' This is said by your parents, teachers, etc. presumably as a form of encouragement, but I felt a sense of great confusion. I didn't know what I was 'going to do with my life' and the whole prospect filled me with dread. In theory the world was my lobster, but in fact I had no idea where to begin or where I was heading. Staying on at school had allowed me to put off any decision about my future, but suddenly it was all over and I had to do SOMETHING. Like a lot of my contemporaries I took the first job that I was offered, with the intention of deciding on a career and moving on at the appropriate time. 26 years later and I'm still there. In the event I never left, though in the civil service you DO get a chance to transfer from department to department until you find something you like. In my time with 'the department' I've had seven jobs, two of which I've really enjoyed (including the current one) and none that I've really disliked. Many other things have happened, like getting married and raising a couple of kids, buying a house etc, etc. but these are things that happened TO me rather than being part of a Grand Plan. I know I made decisions about these things at the time, but in some ways it seemed that they were the only sensible course of action at the time. Getting back to the subject of diaries, it occurred to me some time ago that I didn't know agreat deal about my parents' lives when they were younger, apart from a few tales they told me (my dad was a marine during WWII, my mum was in the WRAF). They've both been gone a long time, so I can't find out any more from them now, and now's the time that I'm more interested. With this in mind I started to write my own 'memoirs' about a year ago. It's been an interesting exercise for ME, even though I really intend it to be for my kids. It's helped me focus on the significant milestones in my life, AND some of the things which were perhaps not so earth shattering, but of interest nevertheless. In fact it's the every day things which I now find more interesting, e.g. what school was like in the 60s, what games we played, how we spent our spare time, what world events I can remember and their effect on me, if any, at the time. Dog knows if my kids will appreciate it. Maybe they will when THEY get older. If not, at least *I* will have enjoyed it. Pardon my ramble. Slarv ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:46:06 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: journal keeping In a message dated 11/9/98 8:06:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, help.gonw.st@gtnet.gov.uk writes: << With this in mind I started to write my own 'memoirs' about a year ago. It's been an interesting exercise for ME, even though I really intend it to be for my kids. It's helped me focus on the significant milestones in my life, AND some of the things which were perhaps not so earth shattering, but of interest nevertheless. >> I'm happy you're doing this Slarv... I keep running up against a certain distinct problem when I try to keep a diary, and that is... I can't stand my own writing! When i re-read anything I've written in a journal I instantly want to tear the page out because I hate the way it sounds (which is why many of my journals end up being just a pair of hardcovers with shreds in between) The only one i've managed to successfully keep for any length of time is my dream journal, which is written in when I'm still half asleep & the entries are hysterical to re-read, with handwriting meandering all over the lines :) I know there are some excellent writers out there in Alloy land... can you give me any tips for keeping a real journal going? I've even thought of starting a 'suggestion box' type set up, where I just drop each day's entry in & never re-read it til the whole box is full... then binding it later. But even then, it would be too easy to just crumple the individual pages up & toss the ones I hate... (yes i'm incorrigible & need HELP!!!) Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 22:15:04 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Dolby Covers & Robin's Picture God, it's so funny to see my ferret on the Internet!! And my Snufflupagus doll! Thanks for a good laugh Michael :) I've had to move the poster yet again from its position on the back of my bedroom door, in order to protect it from marauding window installers... it's now curled safely back in its protective tube in my closet til the whole thing is over with. I won't let anything happen to my lovely Dolby poster! Robin T ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V3 #302 ***************************