From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V3 #281 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Thursday, October 22 1998 Volume 03 : Number 281 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: An apology [John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com] Re: Alloy: Fw: Lack of Culture [John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark] Re: Alloy: Fw: Lack of Culture [CJMark@aol.com] Re: Alloy: more on Thomas' b-day party... [CJMark@aol.com] Re: Alloy: An apology [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Fw: Alloy: from one fan to all others [lae ] Re: Alloy: Re: Could you please explain? [Elaine Linstruth ] Re: Alloy: Fw: Lack of Culture [TBlagg@aol.com] Re: Alloy: back issues... [MacSuirtain ] Re: Alloy: back issues... [Robyn Moore ] Alloy: anti-flame policy [RThurF@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:25:16 -0500 From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com Subject: Alloy: An apology To all Native Americans. I apologize most humbly for remarks made in an earlier mail. John ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:29:29 -0500 From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Fw: Lack of Culture - --IMA.Boundary.059559809 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Yes - as I have previously said, "You have to throw a stone to get the pool to ripple". Besides, Paris isn't all that cultural. If you've ever watched French TV or listened to the music then you'll agree. Apologies if anyone offended. JH ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Alloy: Fw: Lack of Culture Author: "Keith Stansell" at Internet Date: 20/10/1998 22:44 Hi John, I think you were just jokin' around. However, being from Louisiana I must disagree about a lack of "U.S. Culture". Time to get out your Astronauts and Heretics again. - -Keith Stansell >>At 03:28 PM 10/20/98 , you wrote: >> >> Where else but Paris, a city rich in tradition & culture, unlike the >>> US...! >>> >>> John >>> >>> PS this mail will cause the shit to fly !!!!! >> >> >> Well, I'd consider griping...if it weren't for the fact my husband and I >>had one of our ongoing discussions about the lack of distinctive American >>culture and the reasons for it just this evening. ;) >> >> Robyn >> >> >> >>@ Robyn Moore >>@ http://www.alveus.com/kbrm/robyn.html >>@ You knew the job was dangerous when you took it. - S.C. > - --IMA.Boundary.059559809 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from ns1.baxter.com (159.198.180.56) by ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 0064F06B; Tue, 20 Oct 98 23:51:03 - -0500 Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (chmls06.mediaone.net [24.128.1.71]) by ns1.baxter.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA12511 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 23:50:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from smoe.org (080020908e73.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.147.247]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA22708; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 00:47:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id AAA25645; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 00:46:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 00:46:41 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id AAA25629 for alloy-outgoing; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 00:46:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mb1.mailbank.com (mb1.mailbank.com [204.244.193.15]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with SMTP id AAA25618 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 00:46:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ts007d39.den-co.concentric.net [207.155.169.99] (HELO keithstansell) by mb1.mailbank.com (AltaVista Mail V2.0H/2.0H BL25H listener) id 0000_0072_362d_66b2_5890; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 21:44:34 -0700 Message-ID: <003701bdfcad$7feb22e0$63a99bcf@keithstansell> From: "Keith Stansell" To: Subject: Alloy: Fw: Lack of Culture Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 22:44:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-alloy@smoe.org Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. Precedence: bulk - --IMA.Boundary.059559809-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 04:27:36 EDT From: CJMark@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Fw: Lack of Culture Well.. John. I have to say that I disagree somewhat with your assessment of culture in Paris. Admittedly I've only been there a few brief times.. but I found such an assortment of cultural aspects that can not truly be found in the U.S. From Architecture to Art.. and in fact.. these things can be found throughout most of Europe. However, there are also many cultural aspects of America that cannot be found in Europe. So we have to learn to appreciate the good and ignore the lack of some things. Now.. the idea of going to Paris to see Mr. Dolby perform is completely cool.. just because Paris is so cool.. but then again.. the idea of seeing him perform in a local venue would be extremely cool as well.. Let's face it.. given the chance to see him play live would merit unique forces to come into play which would allow me to go.. whereever.. whenever... it becomes necessary. So... until that day.. I shall begin funneling bits and chunks of spare cash into that account.. the "Drop everything and buy the plane ticket RIGHT NOW" account. Ciao for now.. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 04:32:45 EDT From: CJMark@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: more on Thomas' b-day party... Dear Charles.. With all the excitement from "The Letter" I didn't respond to your earlier posting of your tragedy on the home front. Please accept my condolences for the loss of both kittens.. We used to have cats and kittens when I grew up.. and it was a fact of life that usually there would be a natural depletion of the litter.. from various reasons.. but it doesn't make it any easier to accept the reality when it happens. May Mugsy savor a long and prosperous life.. Ciao for now.. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 07:48:48 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: An apology In a message dated 10/21/98 3:48:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com writes: << To all Native Americans. I apologize most humbly for remarks made in an earlier mail. >> Quite all right, I figured you weren't really being serious... I just wanted to clarify for the sake of family & friends out in Big Sky country :) Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:26:57 -0700 From: lae Subject: Re: Fw: Alloy: from one fan to all others I'm in Raleigh, NC. Talk about a city with no culture... I mean there's an art museum and some historic sites from the civil war, but that's about it. I call Raleigh, "The city that always sleeps." :)Alan:) Keith Stansell wrote: > > Hey Alan, > > By the way, where are you anyway? I take it from your e-mail list that you > are in the south US. > > -Keith ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:04:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Re: Alloy: Re: Could you please explain? Not to fan hot coals, but why don't we all reiterate that in the past we've been in agreement, that flame trolling has no place on this list. Anyone who feels the need can quickly be dispensed to Usenet. They seem to enjoy it there. - -- Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) On Tue, 20 Oct 1998 RThurF@aol.com wrote: > Melissa, your posts are always so satisfying. You're beautiful when you're > angry (& at every other time too :) How goes the job find BTW? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:32:25 EDT From: DThurkirk@aol.com Subject: Re: Lack of Culture (was Re[2]: Alloy: Please Don't Stop Recording) In a message dated 10/21/98 12:11:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kbrm@iefx.com writes: << Where else but Paris, a city rich in tradition & culture, unlike the >> Don't even get me started on the french man. I'm afraid that my opinion of france may actually cause the entire country to spontaneously combust if I express it out loud. __Dave T ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:35:01 EDT From: DThurkirk@aol.com Subject: Re: Lack of Culture (was Re[2]: Alloy: Please Don't Stop Recording) In a message dated 10/21/98 12:11:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kbrm@iefx.com writes: << Where else but Paris, a city rich in tradition & culture, unlike the > US... >> but I gotta say...given the subject matter of the list....who the hell do you think invented Rock n Roll buddy Jean Luc Presley? love always Dave T ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:34:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Re: Alloy: Fw: Lack of Culture In article <003701bdfcad$7feb22e0$63a99bcf@keithstansell>, you wrote: >However, being from Louisiana I must disagree about a lack of "U.S. >Culture". ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ You betcha. Louisiana has probably the richest blend of culture in all the United States comprising of Acadian, German, Irish, Spanish, African, and many other cultures. All those cultures together makes one mighty fine gumbo. CRACKERS (Lover of Cajun music from hell!!) - -- Collector of Atari 2600 carts - Accordionist - Bira Bira Devotee - Anime fan * http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html | Crackers' Arts Base * * http://www.angelfire.com/ma/hozervideo/index.html | Hozer Video Games * Nihongo ga dekimasu - 2600 programmer - Father of 2 great kids - Canadian eh ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:34:26 EDT From: TBlagg@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Fw: Lack of Culture In a message dated 21/10/98 08:29:41 GMT, CJMark@aol.com writes: << Now.. the idea of going to Paris to see Mr. Dolby perform is completely cool.. just because Paris is so cool.. but then again.. the idea of seeing him perform in a local venue would be extremely cool as well.. Let's face it.. given the chance to see him play live would merit unique forces to come into play which would allow me to go.. whereever.. whenever... it becomes necessary. >> Yeh, Beruit, Bhagdad or Birmingham? Who cares I,m sure we'd all be there! Trev... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:53:39 -0400 From: MacSuirtain Subject: Re: Alloy: back issues... Charles E. Kemp wrote: > If anyone can forward to me the travel journals of our very own Melissa > Jordan, it would be greatly appreciated. I lost my save files of them > when my 'puter died in January, and I've been wanting to read them lately. What a wonderful compliment, Charles. God bless you. If you go to the web site in my .sig line, you'll find a section that contains my Russia/Central Asia travel stories (see the menu at the bottom of the first page after the splash page.) Just tonight, I found the disk with my travel stories from Thailand. It's been missing for months. I never had a chance to share it with you guys, so, if anyone wants to read it, let me know, and I'll forward it to you. It's about 10 pages long, so I won't post it to Alloy and bore folks silly! Cheers, Melissa - -- Melissa R. Jordan Owner/Artist, Compass Rose Studios Unique Wearable Art in Large Sizes & Handstamped Handicrafts http://www.erols.com/jamesq/crs/welcome.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:02:32 -0700 From: Robyn Moore Subject: Re: Alloy: back issues... At 07:53 PM 10/21/98 , you wrote: >Just tonight, I found the disk with my travel stories from Thailand. >It's been missing for months. I never had a chance to share it with you >guys, so, if anyone wants to read it, let me know, and I'll forward it >to you. It's about 10 pages long, so I won't post it to Alloy and bore >folks silly! Are you really sure you want to do that much forwarding? ;) Please, pass it along to me. :) Robyn M @ Robyn Moore @ http://www.alveus.com/kbrm/robyn.html @ You knew the job was dangerous when you took it. - S.C. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 23:51:27 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Alloy: anti-flame policy In a message dated 10/21/98 12:06:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, elaine@qnet.com writes: << Not to fan hot coals, but why don't we all reiterate that in the past we've been in agreement, that flame trolling has no place on this list. >> Agreed!!!! If anyone wishes to correct someone politely in the course of a conversation, then they may feel free to do so here - but no name calling, threats of violence, or prolonged nitpicking please. Alloy is a very diverse group & you never know who you might offend without meaning to. I want everyone to feel welcome here. Please remember that I'm always available, if anyone here has questions or problems about the list! Robin T ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V3 #281 ***************************