From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V3 #244 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Monday, September 14 1998 Volume 03 : Number 244 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: Okay, a question for the craftier computer geeks among us... [] Alloy: Nova's got "Blinded..." [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Okay, a question for the craftier computer geeks among us... [] Alloy: Dolby songbook ["Michael and Denise Luckey" ] Alloy: Subscribers - changes [IT Admin - Govt Office North West Subject: Re: Alloy: Okay, a question for the craftier computer geeks among us... I don't know about inkjet printers and T-shirts, but I have on a couple of occasions had T-shirts made from photos at Kinko's. They have a way of putting images on a T-shirt using their laser color copier from any image. The quality was pretty good. As I gave the shirts to friends who I no longer have contact with, I can't vouch for the durability. - -Keith (who just turned on AMC and is not sure what POTA's film is on now. I guess I really should go rent these "classics" on Laserdisk and see them as they were ment to be seen in glorious letterbox.) - -----Original Message----- From: MacSuirtain To: alloy@smoe.org Date: Saturday, September 12, 1998 4:57 PM Subject: Alloy: Okay, a question for the craftier computer geeks among us... > >I had no one else to turn to in my time of need, so y'all get this >ridiculous question... > >Have any of you ever tried to make/use iron-on t-shirt transfers with an >inkjet printer? > >Right before resigning the Crappy Job(TM), I bought a nifty little UMAX >scanner, and I've been having fun with it. Since I'm off shortly to >Omaha for Mom's WWII pilots' reunion, I thought I'd make t-shirts for >Mom, me, and a couple of my siblings who'll also be going. I have this >totally cool photo of Mom in her flight leathers, which I've been >messing around with in PhotoDeluxe (guess that would be the VERY poor >man's PhotoShop, eh?) and turned it into the swingingest charcoal/pencil >sketch. It would look damn cool on a shirt, I think. > >I'd just like to know if anyone's tried this stuff. I'm sure the end >product is a wee bit lame, but, for a small-brainer like me, it'll >probably be okay. (Nothing can compare with my Alloy sweatshirt, >though.) > >Does altering 50+ year old photos of your mother (dressed in leather) on >the computer make you a geek (while listening to Yemenite Jewish folk >music)? If so, count me in. > >Anyone else watching all the Planet of the Apes films on AMC this week? >What a kick! Who would have ever thought any of those films would >eventually be touted as "American movie classics." I'm happy because >I'd rather watch Roddy MacDowell in bad makeup than be exposed to more >of the... uh... "local Washington news." > >I'll be at church tomorrow sitting in my usual space two rows behind >President Clinton. I wonder whether or not the little blue-haired >ladies who are always so eager to give him bear hugs will be as >affectionate this week... I have this vision of ice crystals forming in >the pew between Bill and Hillary. Oy. There is always a protest group >outside the church for Clinton's arrival, but I have a feeling tomorrow >is going to be a doozy. (BTW, the church is Foundry United Methodist -- >I'm not Methodist, but the minister is a tremendous public speaker who >tells really amazing stories, and the church choir features some of the >finest voices in the Washington area singing some of the most complex >and GORGEOUS choral music ever written. Good music really can elevate >me somewhere else.) > >To quote Chuck Heston: "It's a madhouse! A madhouse!" > >Hope you're all enjoying the weekend, > >Melissa, Lapsed Cafeteria Catholic and Queen of the Non Sequitor >Transition > >This message powered by the soundtrack to Raiders of the Lost Ark. John >Williams is God. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 12:19:33 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Alloy: Nova's got "Blinded..." I was very proud to hear bits of "She Blinded Me..." on a commercial Nova has out to advertise their new fall season! Thomas & Dr M Pyke echoing down through the ages! Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 17:03:39 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Okay, a question for the craftier computer geeks among us... In a message dated 9/12/98 10:48:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wearart@erols.com writes: << Time to log off and change the outfits on my Venus and David magnets -- I just got the "911 David" fireman gear and the "G.I. Venus" set. >> I've been wanting to get a Gay Boyfriend (male fashion dolls, with various different outfits available... very cute!) They used to have them at Newbury Comics here, but I haven't seen them in a little while. I may have missed my chance. Let us know how the inkjet transfer paper works, if you try it! Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 17:31:47 -0700 From: "Michael and Denise Luckey" Subject: Alloy: Dolby songbook F.Y.I.-there's another Dolby songbook on eBay if anyone is interested. I believe it's sitting at $3 right now. M.L. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:31:54 +0100 (BST) From: IT Admin - Govt Office North West Subject: Alloy: Subscribers - changes Out of curiosity I got smoe to send me a list of subscribers last month, and again this week. We've dropped from 56 to 55, though there have actually been two or three who've unsubscibed and a couple of new subscribers. I note that Ms Sakamoto is has dropped off the list, not that we've hear much from her recently (the last posting I have from her was in Feb 98). Anyone know what's happened to her? Slavibarglhee ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:31:50 +0100 (BST) From: IT Admin - Govt Office North West Subject: Re: Alloy: Geekiness At 08:29 11/09/98 -0700, Ealine wrote: > > >Cub fan here.. that must qualify. When I'm not baseball-bashing in >general. Hey John, what do ya think about old Murdoch & the Manchester >United? > >-- >Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) > > I live within earshot of Old Trafford (M'cr United's ground) but am not really a footy fan. I have reservations about this deal. United are already a money making machine, and a lot of the fans (and their parensts) have been complaining about the number of new team strips being introduced. They're making a fortune from sales of replica shirts alone. They've just launched their own pay-per-view TV station as well, which now appears as a new channel on my cable box, though it's not active as I don't (and won't) subscribe to it. I sympathise with those who think that the sport is now becoming secondary to the business, and not just at United. Slarv ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:31:47 +0100 (BST) From: IT Admin - Govt Office North West Subject: Re: Alloy: Geeks and scientists etc At 10:11 11/09/98 -0400, Crackers wrote: > > >I've got 3 Atari 1040STs, 3 Atari 520 STs, and one Atari Mega 2 ST. I love >these puppies. they're absolutely fantastic for midi and I find them >freaquently at the thrifts for around $5-$15 each. > >And there's also some really cool games for them. > > CRACKERS > (I also have several C-64s from hell!!!) > Ah yes, a 520 was my first computer at home. Indeed I still have it, and quite a lot of cool games for it. I occasionally get it out and dust it off for a quick game of Buggy Boy. I used to be hooked on Elite (damn those Thargoids, DAMN THEM ALL TO HELL!!) and was really getting into Interphase until I got stuck on the first high speed level and just couldn't beat the damn droids through the gates. I'm still sure I must be missing something, it CAN'T be impossible to complete. I also loved the BBC 'B' computers we used to have at work. A mere 32k of memory with twin 5.25"drives , but we had some great games for them as well. The hours we spent playing Chucky Egg, Repton, UXB and also Elite (during our lunch breaks, I hasten to add). OK, so the graphics were nothng like today's standards, but the playability of some of these games was first class. 'appy days Slarv ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:31:52 +0100 (BST) From: IT Admin - Govt Office North West Subject: Re: Alloy: Vinyl At 10:50 12/09/98 -0600, Keith wrote: > >Hi everyone, I'm back from Louisiana and catching up. > >I think the problem with the dismal state of the music on the charts have to >do with demographics. The Boomers are making Celine Dion and Elton John >big, and their kids are making all these bubblegum pop contrived things >popular. > >We are the Baby Busters, small in numbers, unable to make an influence. > >I've been having trouble finding things that are new that I like myself. >One band that I've found does it for me lately is Radiohead. Their first >big hit "Creep" was more grunge than most of the bands work. I highly >suggest you give "Ok Computer" and "The Bends" a listen. Both get a lot of >play in my stereo. > >-Keith > Despite all these record company manufactured boy/girl bands, there ARE still some genuinely talented performers making it, it's just that they are swamped out by the shear volume of dross put out by the TV and radio stations. My latest discovery is Moke (CD is called 'Superdrag' on Dorado Records) who I came across while watching Talk Music on VH1, waiting for John Martyn to appear. They have a mixture of styles really, but the singer has a distinctive voice, the guitarist plays a mean slide and the bass and drums drive them along well. The lyrics of the first track are very hippie trippy/flower power-ish, which I don't object to, but with a fairly meaty rock accompaniment, but others are quite a contrast. Keep an eye open for them if you can. Definitely worth a listen. We have another good music show in the UK 'Late' with Jules Holland (late of Squeeze). They have a large studio and each show has about half a dozen artists, set up in a large circle so there's no waiting between tracks, and it's always an eclectic mix (but NEVER with boy/girl bands). Recently we had Page and Plant, Leon Russell, The (something-or-other) All Stars from Cuba, Smashing Pumpkins, Tory Amos, Traffic, Simply Red and also people never heard of before, like solo singers from obscure African or Asian countries that you just wouldn't hear anywhere else. I'm sure I've said this before, but there IS good music out there, you just have to search it out. Slarv ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 22:25:57 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Subscribers - changes In a message dated 9/13/98 8:33:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, help.gonw.st@gtnet.gov.uk writes: << I note that Ms Sakamoto is has dropped off the list, not that we've hear much from her recently (the last posting I have from her was in Feb 98). Anyone know what's happened to her? >> Her account was no longer accepting e-mail or Alloy posts, so I have to assume she closed it. I hope the disconnection is only temporary. I know she's going through some major changes in her life (relocating, getting a new job etc) but when she is able to post to us again, she'll still be able to get through to me via non-member submissions. I've been wondering about her too. I'll let you know if I hear anything more. Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 23:20:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Re: Alloy: Okay, a question for the craftier computer geeks among us... >From: MacSuirtain >I had no one else to turn to in my time of need, so y'all get this >ridiculous question... > >Have any of you ever tried to make/use iron-on t-shirt transfers with an >inkjet printer? ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ Yes, I make them all the time. It's a pain in the ass, but fun. I have a Canon BJC4100 colour printer which uses alcohol based ink so the colours are brighter and last longer than the waterbased ink shirts. But they do eventually fade, peel, crack, just like a silkscreened T-shirt will eventually do. For waterbased inks I believe you're supposed to soak the shirt briefly in vinigar before you first wash it to fix the ink to the transfer sheet. The printing is the easy part. The hard part is ironing the transfer. Make sure you get rid of all wrinkles on the surface you're transfering the image to. Any wrinkles that are there when the transfer goes on will be there forever. If you're planning to do this for a living then I can't recommend enough that you get proper T-shirt tranfer press. These are presses that heat the entire transfer at once at a high temperature making it quick and easy to remove the backing paper. Doing it with an iron takes a very long time and is difficult to get even heating so sometimes parts of the image remain on the backing sheet and don't get fully tranfered to the T-shirt. ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ >Right before resigning the Crappy Job(TM), I bought a nifty little UMAX >scanner, and I've been having fun with it. Since I'm off shortly to >Omaha for Mom's WWII pilots' reunion, I thought I'd make t-shirts for >Mom, me, and a couple of my siblings who'll also be going. I have this >totally cool photo of Mom in her flight leathers, which I've been >messing around with in PhotoDeluxe (guess that would be the VERY poor >man's PhotoShop, eh?) and turned it into the swingingest charcoal/pencil >sketch. It would look damn cool on a shirt, I think. ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ I think I have a copy of that program too. It came with my printer. ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ >I'd just like to know if anyone's tried this stuff. I'm sure the end >product is a wee bit lame, but, for a small-brainer like me, it'll >probably be okay. (Nothing can compare with my Alloy sweatshirt, >though.) ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ They do look good when finished. I made myself a T-shirt of a manga-style drawing I did of the new band I'm in ("I Love My Shih-Tzu") and it looks really great. I also made T-shirts for my wife and I for our 10th anniversary which are still holding up well. ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ >Does altering 50+ year old photos of your mother (dressed in leather) on >the computer make you a geek (while listening to Yemenite Jewish folk >music)? If so, count me in. ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ Well no.... but see below. ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ >Anyone else watching all the Planet of the Apes films on AMC this week? ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ There we go! Welcome to the "basement without shame" of geekdom. ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ >I'd rather watch Roddy MacDowell in bad makeup than be exposed to more >of the... uh... "local Washington news." ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ As a Canadian I find the whole thing was "amusing at first, but now it just bugs me". I mean did ANYONE believe Bill when he said he didn't have an affair with Monica? So why are they acting so shocked now? He would never be prosecuted in a court of law over any of this so I think it's a little rediculous to even hint at impeachment. Besides I suspect that those polititions screaming the loudest for his removal also have some extra marital skeletons of their own in their closets. It's just all bandstanding for the next election. The guy's only got a little while longer in office, just let him finish out the term with what little dignity he has left. He's a lousy husband but he's been a pretty good president as far as I can tell. Impeachment is really just a bloodless revolution. There has to be some serious shirt going down for you to want to remove a president and I just don't see anything that serious here. If the process of impeachment didn't exist and the only option left was revolution the "old fashioned way" how many of these yokels screaming for Bill's removal would be willing to say "I'm willing to sacrifice my life to remove that man from office." You'd have to be a pretty sad, sorry person to be willing to put your life on the line for a blow-job (and that applies on so many levels ;). I tell you, if our Prime Minister was getting blow-jobs from a woman half his age I'd be yelling "Way to go Jean! You may be the ugliest guy in Canada, but at least you're getting some." Hey, like it or not Politics is a man's game of "mine is bigger than yours". Other world leaders might be acting outraged over this whole scandel when the cameras are on, but you know in their minds they're all thinking, "Alright Billy! You da man! You da man!". With this scandle Bill Clinton has plopped the American Dick on the table of world politics with one huge wonkin' yard stick. CRACKERS (Standing at attention from hell!!) - -- Collector of Atari 2600 carts - Accordionist - Bira Bira Devotee - Anime fan * http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html | Crackers' Arts Base * * http://www.angelfire.com/ma/hozervideo/index.html | Hozer Video Games * Nihongo ga dekimasu - 2600 programmer - Father of 2 great kids - Canadian eh ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V3 #244 ***************************