From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V3 #198 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Wednesday, July 29 1998 Volume 03 : Number 198 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: Distance Schmistance... - more - ["Charles E. Kemp" Subject: Re: Alloy: Distance Schmistance... - more - > > > Found it!! The inventor of 'the 12:30 moment' was none other than Dr > Bliss, alias Clif Brigden ( currently drbliss@globalmusic.com though he used > to be drbliss@netcom.com ) who played drums on The Flat Earth and who WAS > subscribed to this list. Robin, as list owner can you tell us if he's still > on the list? If we ask him nicely I'm sure he'll tell us all about it, not > that this will affect our participation in Paul's global music project. Robin Schmobin... Oh great Slarv, you can this for yourself whenever you like! :) All that is necessary is to send a message to majordomo@smoe.org and put "who alloy" in the body of the message and you will recieve a list of everyone who is subscribed to the list in an e-mail message. When I did this about a month ago, Mr. Brigden was still subscribed. ****** Charles E. Kemp ****** cekemp@netcom.com ****** (812) 597-5950 ****** Just for the sake of it make sure you're always frowning, it shows the world that you've got substance and depth. - Neil Tennant ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 07:20:37 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Alloy: Keith's artwork In a message dated 7/28/98 1:29:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Keith writes: << OK, OK here's the concept: Similar to last years project, the cover will at first look like a TMDR cover. In this instance - The Flat Earth. Also similar to last years project, the picture will be altered slightly to include a birthday cake. The cake on this years cover would replace the pan that TMDR is holding in the photo. The cake could be slightly flat if we use that as the title. If you look at the expression on TMDR's face in the photo, he looks a bit upset or suprised. That's basically it. I thought it would be kind of neat to continue a theme for the cover art from last year. >> I'm not contributing to the Tribute Tape so I know my opinion doesn't make /any/ difference... but I think this idea is excellent!! Keith, you're right, it is a fitting continuance of last year's "story" ... makes me so sad that Thomas still never quite gets to eat the cake, though :) Last year at least he got the pretty girl... this year he'll only have alpacas... or are those things Llamas? Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 07:45:37 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Alloy: The album flat Michael sent! In a message dated 7/28/98 1:29:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, JAMac writes: << >I've been showing it off to everyone who's come within ten feet of me all day! Ten feet? That's all? >> Well, I have a small office, and they never let me out of it because I have so much work to do! BTW a brief update... JAMac you had asked if Dave and I might possibly be moving to Denver. We were just talking about this with Dr Beth last night as a matter of fact! It would be a great place to live, and I'd already know so many VERY cool people there!!! But New York is our destination. We want to get the next phase of our lives underway & Boston is not the place to do it... I will gladly send the statistics by mail to anyone (it's a very big article) of how Boston hardly funds its arts. The Boston Ballet gets less funding from our local government per year than you would ever, ever possibly even have a nightmare about... not to mention the city art organizations, etc. The arts are such a huge draw for tourists to this area every year & the city rakes in the dough, but give nothing back to the arts community in the form of funding. Instead, they redirect the income into sports... it's so corrupt... it's like being in a giant public high school all over again! So we're going back to the Binghamton/Ithaca area (not NYC!!), where we'll be within driving distance of some very major metropolitan areas (NYC, Boston, Philly, Toronto) & can market our work. once we're residents again I will be returning to school as well, to further my violin-making knowledge from the historical/societal perspective (ie, cultural anthro!) But I'll still make musical instruments :) Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 07:53:44 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Alloy: Dolphin Article for E(lipse! I just wanted to tell E(lipse that the "Health/Science" section of Monday's (7/27) Boston Globe has a big article about dolphins communicating with each other & humans, working with psychologist Louis Herman. I thought of you, knowing this is an area of great interest to you. The article is amazing! It sounds like dolphins are not only incredibly intelligent, but have better imaginations than any other creature I've ever heard of. I can send you the article if you like. Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 12:38:03 +0000 From: Tim_Dunn@jba.co.uk Subject: Re: Alloy: real x-files case history <<>> ha ha - that's what I told you then - but I lied! I'm really protecting the government conspiracy etc etc etc the_copse ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:18:13 -0500 From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Distance Schmistance... - --IMA.Boundary.592336109 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Salut.. I'm up for it... MTCBWY & your synchronicity Jean Le Petomane ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Alloy: Distance Schmistance... Author: "Stephen M. Tilson" at Internet Date: 27/07/1998 13:16 Our former leader suggests we try to synchronously: > ...listen to I Love You Goodbye while thinking of the tens of > others throughout the world... ^^^^ sorry . . . Okay, Paul, go for it. Europa and I will do our best to participate. /\/\iles Away - --IMA.Boundary.592336109 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from ns2.baxter.com (159.198.1.38) by ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 004FB6C7; Mon, 27 Jul 98 12:19:43 - -0500 Received: from mermaid.shore.net (mermaid.shore.net [207.244.124.6]) by ns2.baxter.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA13727 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 12:19:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] by mermaid.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) id 0z0qvc-00017i-00; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 13:19:16 -0400 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id NAA22330; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 13:18:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Mon, 27 Jul 1998 13:18:06 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id NAA22308 for alloy-outgoing; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 13:17:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from arl-img-2.compuserve.com (arl-img-2.compuserve.com [149.174.217.132]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with ESMTP id NAA22300 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 13:17:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by arl-img-2.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.12) id NAA24809 for alloy@smoe.org; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 13:16:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 13:16:05 -0400 From: "Stephen M. 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Precedence: bulk - --IMA.Boundary.592336109-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 16:31:46 -0500 From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com Subject: Re[2]: Alloy: Tribute Project --- time is growing short! - --IMA.Boundary.822736109 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part I take it that copyright laws have no bearing here... ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Alloy: Tribute Project --- time is growing short! Author: "Keith Stansell" at Internet Date: 27/07/1998 19:57 OK, OK here's the concept: Similar to last years project, the cover will at first look like a TMDR cover. In this instance - The Flat Earth. Also similar to last years project, the picture will be altered slightly to include a birthday cake. The cake on this years cover would replace the pan that TMDR is holding in the photo. The cake could be slightly flat if we use that as the title. If you look at the expression on TMDR's face in the photo, he looks a bit upset or suprised. That's basically it. I thought it would be kind of neat to continue a theme for the cover art from last year. I'll make up an example and present it as soon as I get the scanned image from Dr. Beth. - -Keith - -----Original Message----- From: Elaine Linstruth To: alloy@smoe.org Date: Monday, July 27, 1998 11:22 AM Subject: Re: Alloy: Tribute Project --- time is growing short! > > >Not to try and be bossy or anything, but maybe if we all knew the concept >or idea or artwork planned, or whatever it is, then a consensus could be >reached based on that. (Instead of based on the three words and the >"It'll be great guys, I've seen it.") Not that we don't trust you who are >in-the-know. It's just, why not let us all in on the idea? > >-- >Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) > >On Sun, 26 Jul 1998, Keith Stansell wrote: >> Just use the term "tribute" and you'll be fine. >> >> JAMac Wrote: >> >I noticed that Keiths idea of "The Flat Cake" doesn't seem to be well >> >received, and even though I try to avoid the 'birthday' involvement for >> >personal reasons, I would have to say, (from a third-party perspective) >> >"The Flat Cake" concept of Keiths is wonderful. And it's not a repeat of >> >last years idea. Rather, a continuation of the story. > > - --IMA.Boundary.822736109 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from ns1.baxter.com (159.198.180.56) by ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 004FC9C9; Mon, 27 Jul 98 21:01:31 - -0500 Received: from mermaid.shore.net (mermaid.shore.net [207.244.124.6]) by ns1.baxter.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA27875 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 21:01:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] by mermaid.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) id 0z0z4p-0006N7-00; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 22:01:20 -0400 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id WAA06522; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 22:00:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Mon, 27 Jul 1998 22:00:11 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id VAA06485 for alloy-outgoing; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 21:59:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.115.93]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with ESMTP id VAA06481 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 21:59:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff [206.173.115.90]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.8.8/(98/05/18 5.10)) id VAA06829; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 21:58:42 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from KeithStansell (ts015d15.den-co.concentric.net [207.155.170.219]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.8.8) id VAA28846; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 21:59:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001601bdb9cb$23e742a0$dbaa9bcf@KeithStansell> From: "Keith Stansell" To: Subject: Re: Alloy: Tribute Project --- time is growing short! Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 19:57:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-alloy@smoe.org Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. Precedence: bulk - --IMA.Boundary.822736109-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 14:15:24 -0400 From: "Stephen M. Tilson" Subject: Alloy: You Can Help Thomas Celebrate! To the Alloyance, You may or may not be aware that some of us are involved in producing the second annual Thomas Dolby Tribute recording, as well as a Book of artwork, graphics, stories, and poetry to celebrate and honor Thomas' entrance into the world some forty years ago. These items will be delivered to him in time for his birthday this year. Would you like a chance to send him your own personal message of gratitude and thanks for all the ways he has enriched *your* life? Of course you would. It's easy to participate, and there are many ways in which to do it. All you have to do is record a personal greeting and deliver it to me by August 15th or so, and I will make sure it gets on our recording. Or, if you are as foolishly ambitious as myself, you are invited to record your own version of a Dolby tune (due Sept. 1st) to be included with the rest as detailed below. I am accepting recordings on just about any media you can think of, plus (for greetings) you can just send it over the net as a .WAV file if you like. As I am managing the recording project, so Robin Thurlow, List Mistress, is producing the Book. Robin, perhaps you could re-post your parameters and requirements for those of us that may have missed it? We all love Thomas for the beauty and joy he has brought into our world, and here is a perfect opportunity to show him you care. Even if you just sent a little snippet like, "Happy Birthday, Thomas. This is Eric Cartman in South Park, Colorado. You make my flat earth go round!", I think it would make a difference. Plus you'll be eligible to receive your own copy of our efforts! Last year's effort wasn't too shabby, by any means. Highly recommended for any true Dolby fan! Here are the current dibs on Dolby cover tunes: Crackers - HOT SAUCE Keith Stansell - WHITE CITY Jose Gomez - PUPPET THEATRE /\/\iles - THE FLAT EARTH the_copse - ONE OF OUR SUBMARINES Lee Jackson - DISSIDENTS JAMac - WEIGHTLESS Croydon - VALLEY OF THE MIND'S EYE Ian Gifford - EUROPA AND THE PIRATE TWINS Lissu - I LOVE YOU GOODBYE Europa - DON'T TURN AWAY Erik Habbinga - CRUEL Dave (Dabb) Abbitt - SCREEN KISS This frees up The Wreck of the Fairchild and Beauty of a Dream, in case you're interested. Also, musical contributors are encouraged to submit an *original* tune as well. Here's your chance to show Thomas what *you* can do, and to honor him at the same time. Now look, boys and girls, I mean it about this greeting thing. There's no reason to not send one. Who *doesn't* have, at least, a microphone attached to their computer whereby you could record a little message of appreciation for the man who brought us all together? Last year's greetings were one of the highlights of the Tribute tape. Let's do it up big time this year!!! Yours in AllThingsDolby(tm), Stephen aka /\/\iles ****************************************************************** * * * Records and live performance are two worlds. * * One is a love letter, the other a hot date. * * ---Robert Fripp * * * ****************************************************************** So, we're working on a love letter . . . works for me! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 15:35:57 -0700 From: "Michael and Denise Luckey" Subject: Re: Alloy: Thank You Michael!! Keith, Thanks a bunch for the link to last years' project-it was VERY impressive! I couldn't think of a more enjoyable gift for the man himself and I didn't realize how much talent is pooled into the Alloy list. The version of Pulp Culture on the disc is my personal favorite as I quite like the changes to the original. Thanks again and a belated congratulations to all for a wonderful effort last year. Hopefully I can contribute in some form to this years' project if time doesn't run out on me! M.L. - -----Original Message----- From: Keith Stansell To: alloy@smoe.org Date: Monday, July 27, 1998 9:27 PM Subject: Re: Alloy: Thank You Michael!! > >Michael, >You definitely qualify as the "super fan" on this list. I never saw anyone >devote so much time and energy in showing their appreciation in an artist as >much as you apparently have. > >Since you weren't around here a year ago, you missed out on last years >tribute project. But lucky for you, it is online. I must apologize for the >poor sound quality. My tape/soundcard/player were all of suspect quality at >the time, and so the sound is a bit worbly. > >Here's the link: >http://www.concentric.net/~kasman/aambc.html > >Enjoy. >-Keith > >-----Original Message----- >From: Michael and Denise Luckey >To: alloy@smoe.org >Date: Monday, July 27, 1998 7:23 PM >Subject: Re: Alloy: Thank You Michael!! > > >> >>You're quite welcome Robin as I find it very satisfying to know that there >>is a Dolby fan out there with such incredible enthusiasm as yourself! I'm >>still working on getting those scans to you as well as that elusive >Keyboard >>magazine promised many moons ago. It's been fun to read all of the >postings >>on the birthday project and I look forward to viewing the final result. >One >>of the things I created back in high school was a huge paper mache cassette >>tape of TGAOW which still sits in my room to this day. Never did build a >>paper mache boom box big enough to play it though! >>M.L. >> >> > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 18:13:39 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: You Can Help Thomas Celebrate! In a message dated 7/28/98 2:19:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Stephen_Tilson@compuserve.com writes: << As I am managing the recording project, so Robin Thurlow, List Mistress, is producing the Book. Robin, perhaps you could re-post your parameters and requirements for those of us that may have missed it? >> If anyone is curious, please e-mail me. Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 19:10:55 -0600 From: "Keith Stansell" Subject: Re: Re[2]: Alloy: Tribute Project --- time is growing short! We did this last year and presented a copy to Thomas Dolby. He was pleased. So....who exactly would be the one to complain? - -Keith - -----Original Message----- From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com To: alloy@smoe.org Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 2:18 PM Subject: Re[2]: Alloy: Tribute Project --- time is growing short! > I take it that copyright laws have no bearing here... > > >______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ >Subject: Re: Alloy: Tribute Project --- time is growing short! >Author: "Keith Stansell" at Internet >Date: 27/07/1998 19:57 > > > >OK, OK here's the concept: > >Similar to last years project, the cover will at first look like a TMDR >cover. In this instance - The Flat Earth. Also similar to last years >project, the picture will be altered slightly to include a birthday cake. > >The cake on this years cover would replace the pan that TMDR is holding in >the photo. The cake could be slightly flat if we use that as the title. If >you look at the expression on TMDR's face in the photo, he looks a bit upset >or suprised. > >That's basically it. I thought it would be kind of neat to continue a theme >for the cover art from last year. > >I'll make up an example and present it as soon as I get the scanned image >from Dr. Beth. > >-Keith > >-----Original Message----- >From: Elaine Linstruth >To: alloy@smoe.org >Date: Monday, July 27, 1998 11:22 AM >Subject: Re: Alloy: Tribute Project --- time is growing short! > > >> >> >>Not to try and be bossy or anything, but maybe if we all knew the concept >>or idea or artwork planned, or whatever it is, then a consensus could be >>reached based on that. (Instead of based on the three words and the >>"It'll be great guys, I've seen it.") Not that we don't trust you who are >>in-the-know. It's just, why not let us all in on the idea? >> >>-- >>Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) >> >>On Sun, 26 Jul 1998, Keith Stansell wrote: >>> Just use the term "tribute" and you'll be fine. >>> >>> JAMac Wrote: >>> >I noticed that Keiths idea of "The Flat Cake" doesn't seem to be well >>> >received, and even though I try to avoid the 'birthday' involvement for >>> >personal reasons, I would have to say, (from a third-party perspective) >>> >"The Flat Cake" concept of Keiths is wonderful. And it's not a repeat >of >>> >last years idea. Rather, a continuation of the story. >> >> > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 22:49:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Re: Re[2]: Alloy: Tribute Project --- time is growing short! In article <004FE5AB.1208@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com>, you wrote: > I take it that copyright laws have no bearing here... ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ Technically, Thomas could throw the book at us for creating these B-Day tributes. But in return for the joy of being able to honour Thomas with a B-day compilation of covers of his work we have a number of self imposed concessions. 1) Distribution of the finished work is limited to Alloy members. 2) Nobody profits from the creation and distribution of the project. (Any surplus cash left over from things like return postage is donated to charity). 3) If at any time Thomas tells us to "knock it off" we'll knock it off. 4) Everyone covers their own "out of pocket" expenses. Incidently, I'm currious how submissions are comming along on the Project B-Day companion book. CRACKERS (Still haven't recorded my songs from hell!!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V3 #198 ***************************