From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V3 #106 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Tuesday, April 21 1998 Volume 03 : Number 106 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: Numan/Dolby/Mondegreens [Lem Bingley ] Re: Alloy: Numan/Dolby/Mondegreens [John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawp] Re: Alloy: Teletubbies of horror [IT Admin - Govt Office North West ] Re: Alloy: Hello out there [Jeff Wasilko ] Re: Alloy: Teletubbies [RThurF ] Re: Alloy: Our Favorite Englishman! [RThurF ] Re: Alloy: Hello out there [Eclipse ] Re: Alloy: message from TMDR [Mark Hyre ] Re: Alloy: Hello out there [Jeff Wasilko ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:36:29 +0100 From: Lem Bingley Subject: Alloy: Numan/Dolby/Mondegreens On Friday night here in the UK there's a TV comedy show called the Adam & Joe show. One of the items they do regularly is called "the record police", or something like that (I rarely watch the show) where they go dressed as policemen with LP's nailed to the tops of their helmets and barge into the home of a celebrity and find out what records they have in their collection (with the express aim of embarassing the hell out of them). Friday night it was Gary Numan's turn - and guess what - he had a copy of The Golden Age of Wireless. Bought for 5.99 (it still had the sale sticker on it). They played "Windpower" and when it got the bit where Thomas sings "we're a continent, a continent, a continent" they, of course, waggled their bottoms at the camera and boomed "we're incontinent incontinent incontinent." Now I know why I drink heavily most Friday nights instead. Lem ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 14:51:56 -0500 From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Numan/Dolby/Mondegreens - --IMA.Boundary.769670398 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Shit, that would be deemed far too intelligent for French TV John On Friday night here in the UK there's a TV comedy show called the Adam & Joe show. They played "Windpower" and when it got the bit where Thomas sings "we're a continent, a continent, a continent" they, of course, waggled their bottoms at the camera and boomed "we're incontinent incontinent incontinent." - --IMA.Boundary.769670398 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from ns1.baxter.com (159.198.180.56) by ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 003C9986; Mon, 20 Apr 98 07:35:35 - -0500 Received: from siren.shore.net (siren.shore.net [207.244.124.5]) by ns1.baxter.com (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id HAA18870 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 07:35:19 - -0500 (CDT) Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] (root) by siren.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) id 0yRFkP-0000dw-00; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 08:32:33 -0400 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id IAA09665; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 08:25:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Mon, 20 Apr 1998 08:25:24 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id IAA09586 for alloy-outgoing; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 08:19:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ias1.iacnet.com (ias1.iacnet.com [140.244.1.69]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with ESMTP id IAA09582 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 08:19:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailer.zd.com ([155.40.32.87]) by ias1.iacnet.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #22532) with SMTP id <01IW3392HA7S002037@ias1.iacnet.com> for alloy@smoe.org; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 08:16:29 EST Received: by mailer.zd.com(Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) id 852565EC.0043396F ; Mon, 20 Apr 1998 08:14:15 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:36:29 +0100 From: Lem Bingley Subject: Alloy: Numan/Dolby/Mondegreens To: alloy@smoe.org Message-id: <802565EC.002EC37B.00@mailer.zd.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Lotus-FromDomain: ZD EUROPE@ZIFF-DAVIS@INET Sender: owner-alloy@smoe.org Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. Precedence: bulk - --IMA.Boundary.769670398-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 23:39:15 +0100 (BST) From: IT Admin - Govt Office North West Subject: Re: Alloy: Teletubbies of horror At 00:24 20/04/98 EDT, Robin wrote: > >Oh Slarv, do you mean I have to touch them?? Well, you don't HAVE to, but personally I think it'd be quite nice. They regularly indulge in communal 'big hugs' which seems like a pretty cool thing to me. >When something seems like an acid flashback to someone who's never done acid, >then I know there's more than a little to worry about... either about the >teletubbies, or myself >(I was the child who felt similarly horrifically claustrophobic when viewing >Gumby & Pokey's little world on tv, and also when I was compelled against my >will to visit the demented universe of Highlights magazine in my >pediatrician's office) > G & P must be another American prog that never made it across the Atlantic. >That talking microphone that sprouts out of the ground is giving me the creeps >already, and I haven't even seen it yet... > Yes, well it IS a bit sort of remeniscent of 'The Time Machine,' but then in contrast NuNu comes careering around the house, sweeping up with what can only be described as a mechanical farting noise. It cracks me up every time. The one thing I CAN'T stand is the sun. It sits in the sky with a baby's face superimposed over it, the baby making excited squeeling noises when ever anything happens. All I can recommend is that you reserve judgement until you've seen three or four episodes. Slarv ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 16:01:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Re: Alloy: Hello out there Very true about Jewel's album, Dabb. I guess I had noticed that, but hadn't put 2 + 2 together. Now that you mention it, I have also noticed that some of the videos keep having two and three different versions shot. Maybe she should rename herself "Third Time's The Charm." Did you know she was in an all-girl rap thing and called herself the Swiss Miss? I read that in Rolling Stone or someplace, and recently saw it on Popup Video, so I guess we can assume it's true. Two more that I want to like but can't: Joan Osborne and Fiona Apple. Joan because she consistently sings flat. No question about it. Fiona, well I wish someone would break the news to her that she could really benefit with some lessons on how to reign in that voice of hers. I've seen her try and sing live only to end up out of breath halfway through each song, and the vibrato really starts sounding like Mr. Ed. She's got an interesting talent, but she needs to learn how to use it. In my humble opinion. Guess I should say that I did spend several years in choral training, so breathing from the diaphragm and staggering it, and listening intently to the clunker notes from the other singers is just something that you don't lose, maybe. Or maybe I'm just a sourpuss crony who is old before her time! Hey, maybe I should join the Fiona, Jewel and Joan mailing lists and make some enemies. Talk about pissing in the pool ;) How come people like the aforementioned are so popular and heavily rotated, when our favorite Englishman got relegated? Is it because he refused to bend to stupid record company shenanigans? Cause it sure ain't lack of talent. I mean, compare ILYG to that obnoxious song about how Jewel broke her breakfast egg yolk and made a smiley face with it. (eeyucch) - -- Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) On Fri, 17 Apr 1998, DAbbitt32 wrote: > I would tend to agree with you about the Jewel CD. I bought it after hearing > her first single, and was rather disappointed with the album as a whole. Not > only was each song annoyingly similar, the engineering of the tracks > themselves sucked. You might note that each single released since she's > become the it-girl has been re-recorded with a more lush sound and new > arrangementss. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 20:27:14 -0400 From: Jeff Wasilko Subject: Re: Alloy: Hello out there On Mon, Apr 20, 1998 at 04:01:11PM -0700, Elaine Linstruth wrote: > Maybe she should rename herself "Third Time's The Charm." Did you know > she was in an all-girl rap thing and called herself the Swiss Miss? I > read that in Rolling Stone or someplace, and recently saw it on Popup > Video, so I guess we can assume it's true. It is true. It was while she was in high school at Interlochen. > Hey, maybe I should join the Fiona, Jewel and Joan mailing lists and make > some enemies. Talk about pissing in the pool ;) Didn't your mother ever tell you that if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all? Given that the Fiona and Jewel lists are also hosted here at smoe.org, I can tell you that you would not be welcome on them. Would you like it if someone came onto this list and started trashing it because they didn't care for our esteemed leader's work? - -jeff ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 21:25:19 EDT From: RThurF Subject: Re: Alloy: Teletubbies In a message dated 4/20/98 6:47:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, help.gonw.st@gtnet.gov.uk writes: << G & P must be another American prog that never made it across the Atlantic.>> Lucky you. (shudder) <> Once again, you've talked me into something; your powers of persuasion are formidable. When I see Teletubbies listed in the Cable line up one day, I will certainly watch it, and tell you what I think. The sun does sound pretty revolting as you describe it, though I know babies do respond to other babies when they see them on television & in photos - therefore it's probably a big hit with those viewers aged two and under. Perhaps we can write an episode where there is a total solar eclipse in Teletubbyland, just to give parents a teensy little break? scampering off to work on her birthday present to Thomas, and not think of Teletubbies anymore... Robin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 21:40:54 EDT From: RThurF Subject: Re: Alloy: Our Favorite Englishman! In a message dated 4/20/98 7:23:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, elaine@qnet.com writes: << How come people like the aforementioned are so popular and heavily rotated, when our favorite Englishman got relegated? Is it because he refused to bend to stupid record company shenanigans? Cause it sure ain't lack of talent. I mean, compare ILYG to that obnoxious song about how Jewel broke her breakfast egg yolk and made a smiley face with it. (eeyucch) >> Trying to figure out what people want and being consistently baffled by it all has become a way of life for me. I don't get it either & there probably is no explanation... except that I understand "women's rock" is a big seller right now, and, as always, the younger & more naive a performer is the better, as far as a record company may be concerned. Sadly, by the time Jewel and her counterparts have matured musically & have some real skill at what they're doing, 'the business' will have moved on to some other bunch of 18 year old girls they can manipulate. Robin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 21:59:20 -0700 From: Eclipse Subject: Re: Alloy: Hello out there Jeff Wasilko wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 20, 1998 at 04:01:11PM -0700, Elaine Linstruth wrote: > > Maybe she should rename herself "Third Time's The Charm." Did you know > > she was in an all-girl rap thing and called herself the Swiss Miss? I > > read that in Rolling Stone or someplace, and recently saw it on Popup > > Video, so I guess we can assume it's true. > > It is true. It was while she was in high school at Interlochen. > > > Hey, maybe I should join the Fiona, Jewel and Joan mailing lists and make > > some enemies. Talk about pissing in the pool ;) > > Didn't your mother ever tell you that if you don't have anything > nice to say, don't say anything at all? > > Given that the Fiona and Jewel lists are also hosted here at > smoe.org, I can tell you that you would not be welcome on them. > Would you like it if someone came onto this list and started > trashing it because they didn't care for our esteemed leader's work? > > -jeff Uhmm... with all due respect and gratitude, since you're hosting this fantastic list, I politely suggest that a ;) might have been in order along with your comments. Elaine was obviously (to me, anyway) expressing her opinion and making a joke, and although there's nothing wrong with saying that it's not a joke you appreciate in the least, or one that you found in very poor taste, it might have been a good idea to make it clear that you understand that it was a joke, or you think so, or hope so, and that you're not simply Gravely Repremanding as the Supreme Smoe.Org Dude. ;) Which I don't think you were, but.. it would have bothered me if it were me you were responding to.. which it wasn't.. so.. uhm... er.. *blush* back in my hole now.. -- E(lipse ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 23:26:28 From: Mark Hyre Subject: Re: Alloy: message from TMDR Hey.... Merry Chistmas, and a happy new year....things aren't all that bad here....bless you all.... Mark B^)> At 12:17 PM 3/20/08 +0000, you wrote: >I'd like to personally wish everybody a Merry Christmas and a Happy New >Year! > >Thomas. > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 23:28:33 -0400 From: Jeff Wasilko Subject: Re: Alloy: Hello out there On Mon, Apr 20, 1998 at 09:59:20PM -0700, Eclipse wrote: > > Jeff Wasilko wrote: > > > > On Mon, Apr 20, 1998 at 04:01:11PM -0700, Elaine Linstruth wrote: > > > Maybe she should rename herself "Third Time's The Charm." Did you know > > > she was in an all-girl rap thing and called herself the Swiss Miss? I > > > read that in Rolling Stone or someplace, and recently saw it on Popup > > > Video, so I guess we can assume it's true. > > > > It is true. It was while she was in high school at Interlochen. > > > > > Hey, maybe I should join the Fiona, Jewel and Joan mailing lists and make > > > some enemies. Talk about pissing in the pool ;) > > > > Didn't your mother ever tell you that if you don't have anything > > nice to say, don't say anything at all? > > > > Given that the Fiona and Jewel lists are also hosted here at > > smoe.org, I can tell you that you would not be welcome on them. > > Would you like it if someone came onto this list and started > > trashing it because they didn't care for our esteemed leader's work? > > > > -jeff > > Uhmm... with all due respect and gratitude, since you're hosting this > fantastic list, I politely suggest that a ;) might have been in order > along with your comments. Elaine was obviously (to me, anyway) > expressing her opinion and making a joke, and although there's nothing > wrong with saying that it's not a joke you appreciate in the least, or > one that you found in very poor taste, it might have been a good idea to > make it clear that you understand that it was a joke, or you think so, > or hope so, and that you're not simply Gravely Repremanding as the > Supreme Smoe.Org Dude. ;) Which I don't think you were, but.. it would > have bothered me if it were me you were responding to.. which it > wasn't.. so.. uhm... er.. *blush* back in my hole now.. I'm sorry, but I didn't think it was a joke. I did miss the winking smiley, though. I am a bit sensitive about people causing problems on mailing lists, as the Jewel list has been the victim of more than one attack (and one of them was particularly nasty--it evolved into a denial of service attack against smoe.org, shutting down all mailing lists). - -jeff ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V3 #106 ***************************