From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V3 #71 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Monday, March 16 1998 Volume 03 : Number 071 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: The Conference! [RThurF ] Re: Alloy: The 40's? [RThurF ] Re: Alloy: Musicians of Alloy [CJ Mark ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 18:12:49 EST From: RThurF Subject: Alloy: The Conference! I wonder how the conferences went this week! Lee, when you get settled, can you tell us all about the Texas one? Robin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 18:09:33 EST From: RThurF Subject: Re: Alloy: The 40's? In a message dated 98-03-13 19:56:37 EST, Slarvi wrote: << The nature of my work, which is to help users of our IT system, requires me to be civil to them even when I feel like saying, "Why don't you shut up and pay attention to what I'm telling you, then you might learn something." I try to remember that what is obvious and simple to me, may be a difficult and unusual concept to them, because they may not be doing it on a daily basis like I am. But it's easy to forget this sometimes. Some of them ARE manipulative little beggars, who will pretend not to know how to do something so that I'll do it for them, but they are in the minority. >> Yes... Dave gets this all the time at work (he even has people coming over from other departments asking him how to do stuff) and I'm still at my wits end about this extraordinarily manipulative & clueless girl who I finally maneuvered OUT of my department and into another one, thanks to the cooperation of the owner of my shop. She complained endlessly about everything, thought the other person in my department was out to get her (she wasn't) and was an extremely skilled liar. Now she's in the department that's around the corner, and I hired my very good friend (and personal tattoo artist!) to fill her old position. He is a truly wonderful person and is happily & faithfully married to another friend of mine, which this awful girl knows very well, but ever since he started she won't stop coming back round to my department & trying to flirt with him. I'm afraid I'll have to take more action against her if it doesn't stop soon; my friend is polite to her but makes it known he isn't interested. Which brings me back around to "the 40's"... from what I can tell, age may not matter when it comes to some people wanting to chuck their responsibilities & run around on their wives or husbands, drink a lot, etc., and other people remaining faithful to everything they have and love. People of every age have to keep in mind who they are & where their responsibilities lie, what they value, and what kind of person they want to be. I do know a lot of people in their 40's who have finally saved up enough to take some extravagant trip around the world, or get that Harley they've always dreamed of, or get a really fantastic boat & go yachting all over the place...financial stability mixed with youthful enthusiasm might *look* like some kind of 'crisis' to conservative folk - could this be partly why 'the 40's' have such a bad rep? Robin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:35:55 EST From: CJ Mark Subject: Re: Alloy: Musicians of Alloy Okay... I just had to pipe up.. Although I generally read my E-mail with pleasure.. Once in awhile I have to respond. This time.. it is to admit to being an ex- professional musician.. I sang and played guitar and had various bands in the Seattle area from about '74 to '83.. Nothing famous.. just played in the clubs around the Northwest and Canada. When I finally decided that Rock and Roll would probably not lead to stardom for me.. (Since my hair started turning gray .Prematurely I might add!! ) I returned to school and studied television production.. Then.. in '84 I packed up everything in Seattle and bought a one way ticket to London.. traveled around Europe for awhile.. and settled in Italy near the end of they year... by then I had quit playing for a living and was involved in television production, but music called me back. .and while working days at an Italian TV network... at nights I became a backup singer for a local Milan studio for a hobby that paid.. We'd have fun.. a group of four of us who sang in English.. I was fortunate enough to sing on a bunch of albums. .some never made it anywhere.. and most were silly Euro Disco .. mostly crap.. .. but I didn't care.. I was having fun singing and playing at the studio and traveling back and forth from Italy to the States and elsewhere in Europe for the TV network. Then I sang with a group that asked me to join for a "TV tour" We did all the Italian music television shows and ended up playing at San Remo in '89.. which is the big annual music festival. Other acts playing that year included Elton John, Boy George, Europe, Tuck and Patty, Little Steven, Simply Red.. and a host of Italian bands.. There was a cool jam session after the shows at a nearby club.. It was a fun weekend. .and I was told the TV audience was around 25 million throughout Europe. The music was pop reggae. .and the lead singer was named Papa Winnie.. he was from St. Vincent in the Caribbean and had dreadlocks down to there. .and actually had a very good voice. It was fun.. but then I decided it was time to return to the states.. and moved to Florida soon afterward.. Oh.. the one song that I sang on that had some fame.. now.. hold on to your hats.. and don't throw things please.. was the all time dumbest song ever recorded.. A friend of mine wrote it there in Milano.. and it hit number 1 in the States in the clubs. . number 1 in Germany.. number 1 in Japan.. and many other places.. okay.. the song was.. . "Boom Boom Boom, Let's Go Back to my Room" The lead singer was a male model picked at random in Milano named Paul Lekakis.. he couldn't sing a lick.. but he was the "Spice Girls" of the moment in Japan.. and elsewhere. Pretty ridiculous claim to fame.. but I enjoy the guffaws when I relate the story. So.. .add me to your list.. Stephen.. of retired pros.. I guess.. and please excuse the long winded approach to my life story, folks!! Now.. back to our regularly scheduled program.. Ciao for now.. Mark ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V3 #71 **************************