From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V3 #68 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Friday, March 13 1998 Volume 03 : Number 068 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: The 30's?! [RThurF ] Re: Alloy: The 40's? [IT Admin - Govt Office North West ] Re: Alloy: The 30's?! [Keith Stansell ] Re: Alloy: The 30's?! [Chris Cracknell ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:47:47 EST From: RThurF Subject: Re: Alloy: The 30's?! Come to think of it, what does the media say about being in your 30's? (since I'm about to pass this mark myself, and looking forward to it) Can any of the over-30 women of Alloy advise me on what to expect? If the people here are anything to go by, it should be a pretty exciting time. If it's even anything near the sexiness, intrigue & knowledgeability of the 40's man as Slarvi says I'll be thrilled, though my more or less monastic lifestyle will make it easy for me to avoid marauding members of the opposite sex who may take a random interest! Robin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:25:04 GMT From: IT Admin - Govt Office North West Subject: Re: Alloy: The 40's? At 23:27 11/03/98 EST, Robin wrote: > > >Oh, the media! Yes, do believe them, Slarv, you know they always have our best >interests in mind & never ever lie ! > >What do the media say about it anyway? Can you tell me about this 'thing or >two', or is it not allowed? > >Robin > The media, psychologists, Agony Aunts, man's magazines; they all have something to say about middle aged men trying to capture their lost youth or prove their virility by getting 'involved with younger women.' Everyone except the men in question often think they're making fools of themselves, whereas they think they are proving they haven't lost their sex appeal. I'll admit that I often find some younger women attractive, but then I find some older women attractive too. What I DO try to do is refrain from tasteless, sexist or possibly offensive remarks about women. I cringe when I hear a group of 'lads' making what they think are humorous remarks within earshot of women. Call me old fashioned if you like, but that's the way I feel. I always try to treat EVERYONE equally. I'm sure I sometimes fail (some of our users definitely seem like nimnoes to me), I'm only human like everyone else, but I do TRY to treat people as I'd like them to treat me, however hard it might be sometimes. Behaviour breeds similar behaviour. If you treat people well, they'll usually reciprocate; not always, but usually. Ooops, old fart mode clicked in automatically there. Sorry. Slarv ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:25:08 GMT From: IT Admin - Govt Office North West Subject: Re: Alloy: The 30's?! At 07:47 12/03/98 EST, Robin wrote: > >Come to think of it, what does the media say about being in your 30's? Oh, they have something to say about every age range. Hence series like 'thirty-something.' >(since >I'm about to pass this mark myself, and looking forward to it) Can any of the >over-30 women of Alloy advise me on what to expect? If the people here are >anything to go by, it should be a pretty exciting time. > Things don't change overnight, just because you pass a land mark. Age is partly a state of mind. I'm sure I must have acquired SOME wisdom since I was eighteen, but in many ways I don't feel much older than I did then, except that the old body is not the wire taut engine it used to be (LOLA if you believe THAT .... I mean if you believe it was ever a wire taut engine, not that it still is one). >If it's even anything near the sexiness, intrigue & knowledgeability of the >40's man as Slarvi says I'll be thrilled, though my more or less monastic >lifestyle will make it easy for me to avoid marauding members of the opposite >sex who may take a random interest! > It's up to you. You can be as outrageous or prim and proper as suits you, at any age. Perhaps as you get older, you CAN choose to change your lifestyle and outlook, or at least have the experience to be able to control your behaviour so you LOOK cool, calm and collected, even though you may be panicking inside. But I don't think many of us consciously choose how we are. We are just the sum total of our life to date. Oooo, er, now I'm getting a bit too 'deep' for my own liking. I can't help thinking that people may often appear more interesting on the internet than they are in the flesh. There's something about this form of communication that relaxes inhibitions. Perhaps that's why I expressed reluctance to meet fellow Allocates a while ago. The magical illusion might be broken. I have experienced something like this before. Many years ago, in one of my previous jobs, I had daily phone contact with staff in our accounts offices. I spoke to them daily for four or five years, but never met any of them, even though they only worked a couple of miles away. Then I got promoted, and transferred to accounts. When I finally met some of these people, whose voices I knew so well, they were nothing like I expected. More strangely, at least two of them thought I was a different chap to the one they'd dealt with over the phone. I was a mere 25 at the time, but one of them said that they'd always assumed I was in my forties. One meeting changed their view forever. We all have a mental picture of what regular contributors to Alloy are like. We have seen SOME pics in the scrapbook, but these are frozen moments in time, and may not be a true representation of our characters. It would be interesting to learn what images we have of each other. Slarv ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:51:41 EST From: RThurF Subject: Alloy: image In a message dated 98-03-12 19:36:12 EST, Slarv wrote: << I can't help thinking that people may often appear more interesting on the internet than they are in the flesh. There's something about this form of communication that relaxes inhibitions. Perhaps that's why I expressed reluctance to meet fellow Allocates a while ago. The magical illusion might be broken. >> I agree that the written form is relaxing. When I'm with someone face to face I'm generally the "listener" rather than the talker...it occurs to me that I might seem really flamboyant and talkative here but I'm actually quite calm in person. I much prefer to let others be the center of attention & I love to hear stories. If you bring me lots of pictures to look at, like wonderful Beth did, I'll be overjoyed :) In personal relationships it typically takes a somewhat unusually long time for me to feel like I really know/can trust someone. In a purely written format there are a lot of interpersonal type things we don't have to worry about, and so it is more comfortable to talk (write) & get to know one another on a certain level. But meeting face-to-face is a lot more complex. I have to say, though, I think it's sort of 'romantic' that I might never meet most of the people I've gotten to know through this list! If we ever did meet up, Slarv, maybe we should agree to just start again from that moment as if we didn't know anything about each other at all except the basics. Now, you'll have to let me know if my description of myself lives up to my 'image' (LOL!!!) Robin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:37:18 -0700 From: Keith Stansell Subject: Re: Alloy: The 30's?! On a very related note, There was a meeting of three Alloyites tonight at the Wynkoop(eee) in Denver. JAMac and myself had the pleasure of having dinner with Beth Meyer here in Denver. She was in the area for an interview. A good time was had by all and no illusions were broken (that I'm aware of). Beth shared some great mountain climbing photos with us. I got a picture of the event that I hope can be included in the scrapbook some day. Keith Stansell Denver, CO __________________________________________________ http://www.concentric.net/~kasman IT Admin - Govt Office North West wrote: >There's something about this form of communication that relaxes inhibitions. Perhaps >that's why I expressed reluctance to meet fellow Allocates a while ago. The magical >illusion might be broken. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:38:59 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Re: Alloy: The 30's?! Well to me being a 30-something is like this: I still have the same youthful enthusiasm for life that I had when I was 17, only now it is tempered with the wisdom gained by 14 years of experience in the adult world. CRACKERS (Best of both worlds from hell!!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V3 #68 **************************