From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V3 #59 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Wednesday, March 4 1998 Volume 03 : Number 059 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: A little more introduction - collaborators [Tim_Dunn@jba.co.uk] Re: Alloy: why I do visual art instead [RThurF ] Re: Alloy: Paul? [Paul Baily ] Re: Alloy: Byrralku Dhangudh [Paul Baily ] Alloy: Trains don't collide on a regular basis [John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccm] Re: Alloy: Trains don't collide on a regular basis [Eclipse ] Re: Alloy: Trains don't collide on a regular basis [Elaine Linstruth ] Alloy: Allright :) [Elaine Linstruth ] Re: Alloy: Elaine stands up! I 2nd. [CJ Mark ] Re: Alloy: Allright :) [CJ Mark ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:11:32 +0000 From: Tim_Dunn@jba.co.uk Subject: Re: Alloy: A little more introduction - collaborators Hi dudes One of the most interesting collaborations/partnerships for me is the little credit to Tim Friese-Green for co-production on She Blinded Me.This is the guy who was later to go on to work with Talk Talk and practically invent the beautiful keyboard as we know it today - any Exchangers will know his work from the song Renee, a real masterpiece. I just wonder what they got up to in the studio, there must have been some serious techno-brainstorming going on there. I guess we'll never know..... the_copse ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 07:56:36 EST From: RThurF Subject: Re: Alloy: why I do visual art instead In a message dated 98-03-02 08:00:04 EST, Paul said: << Okay young lady, this is probably horribly rash of me given my lack of artistic talent, but WTH, let me pose a challenge to you: if you give it a go, so will I. >> I've been thinking over your challenge all last night & this morning. Verrry tempting! My biggest problems with doing something for the tape so far have been: (a) No good recording equipment of my own. A friend has saved enough so that he can go back into the studio & he told me yesterday how much it costs to rent time there, this is *not* an option for me! Not to mention I know their sound guy & I'd feel really weird singing in front of him. I'm way too self-conscious to be a performer. And any equipment I could personally afford to use at home would not produce the results I would want (b) It wouldn't be possible for me to do a cover of one of Thomas' songs as a gift to him. WAY too intimidating. I love his music & my lack of experience would make it impossible for me to do it in my own 'style'. I wouldn't have the slightest idea where to begin. Overall, if I'm going to make this man something for his birthday, I would much prefer it to be a piece I think might actually come out well & have something of myself in it. You may think I'm taking this too seriously, but I can't help feeling about this the way Thomas might feel if he were supposed to make me a cello for my birthday (unless he knows more about violin making than he admits! ) But now this challenge...! I would consider doing a recording if you will, Paul, but only if it weren't a cover of one of Dolby's songs & my name was kept off the j-card (no pressure please!!) This might just amount to a written greeting which I would read on the tape, or it might be something more musically substantial. It all depends on what works out well. Maybe you and I can agree to both give it a try & see where it goes? Robin the Intimidated ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 98 23:08:42 +1000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Re: Alloy: Paul? At 22.47 98.03.02 +1000, I wrote: >>><< Paul. >>> [Who is oh so slightly smitten by someone amazing he finally got to >>> talk/drink/dance with Friday night ] >>> >> Then Robin Thurlow wrote: >>>You can't end a letter like that! Paul, tell us about this date of yours or >>>I'll die of suspense. Did you tell this lucky creature about your weird >Alloy >>>friends? Then I wrote: >>Lucky creature!? Robin dearest you flatter me so! Email to you hot on the >>heels of this one. Then Robyn Moore wrote: > Aww...you're gonna deprive the rest of us? Enquiring minds want to know. ;) and Elaine Linstruth added: >Oh, sure! Leave the rest of us voyeuristic lurkers out in the cold! >And with a tease even. ;-) Well, like I said in a previous message discretion is the better part of valour (besides I wouldn't want to send the rest of the list to sleep. :-) Paul. ________________________________________________________________________ Paul Baily paulb@thehub.com.au JustSomeGuy http://www.thehub.com.au/~paulb Brisbane tel: +61-7-3857-8048/+61-411-875-009 Australia When your turn comes round and the light goes on. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 98 23:08:39 +1000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Re: Alloy: Byrralku Dhangudh >Our esteemed leader wrote: Huh? Hang on, this /is/ a TMDR list isn't it? I just do the housework 'round here. :-) > > (Aboriginal for "Great Southern Land" - not generally used to > > refer to Aust, but there's an Icehouse song with that title!) > >Paul, I think you ought to put that on your Dubs tape so >everyone can share in my frustration of trying to sing along >and having no earthly idea what the words are! Where's my >Aborigine/English dictionary... Heh! Well, I'm tossing up between that and the Full Circle mix - it still gives me goosebumps. > > No, I understand what you mean though. I don't think we've got > > any programs that show a real cross section of Australia (John? > > Help me out here mate!), but we do have some really good ones > > that show specific bits: For country towns & outback, try Flying > > Doctors (a tad soapie), for a really nice look at Sydney, try > > Police Rescue, Blue Sky, & Water Rats (three /very/ good series > > BTW, so good at showing off Sydney they make me want to move back > > there at times), for Brisbane, try Fire & Medivac. > >Ah, I was just waiting for the right moment to tease you about >Water Rats! Recently on the Entertainment Channel (I'm not a >TV addict, I swear!) there was a show called Sex on the Great >Barrier Reef. But coral & rock is sharp. (I mean it'd make carpetbur- uh no, I think I'll stop right there.) > Along with shots of King's Cross, So now you get an idea of what the Cross is about! > Miss Nude >Australia, and topless women on the beach, they had interviews >with some of the stars from Water Rats. Sorry, but the >impression I got was that the show is the Aussie version of >Baywatch! Argh! I'd have to agree with John on this one, it's really a good program, honest injun! I know I'm not exactly a good example, but we're not all airheads over here y'know. :-) > There were some beautiful shots of the Sydney >Harbor Bridge though. Tell me, Paul, do you have any photos >of that landmark? ;-) Well, funnily enough, though I lived 10 mins walk away from it for a year and quite regularly commuted over it, I didn't take too many of that...and those I did are in Singapore these days... > > [who /completely/ spun out when he picked up the March issue of > > MacWorld Aust today...] > >Congrats! I wonder if the local magazine shop would special order >a copy for me. Do they offer overseas subscriptions? It's only a three page column near the back y'know. My parents were dead chuffed when they heard about it (in case Alloids don't know, my Mum & Dad own a book store in a beautiful, quiet country town in New Zealand called Motueka), I called them on the weekend and much to my embarrassment they've been telling all their regulars about it and said they were putting it on display at the counter! > So what's next >for you, the Playboy Advisor? Uh, no, /those/ techniques I'll keep under wraps methinks. Discretion being the better part of valour'n'all. ;-) P. This message powered by Blue Noise from Full Circle/Icehouse. ________________________________________________________________________ Paul Baily paulb@thehub.com.au JustSomeGuy http://www.thehub.com.au/~paulb Brisbane tel: +61-7-3857-8048/+61-411-875-009 Australia Standing at the limit of an endless ocean ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:14:45 -0600 From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com Subject: Alloy: Trains don't collide on a regular basis Hello all.. finally I've cracked... I'm suppsed to be working, and I said that I'd leave Alloy to one side until I've sorted out what I'm supposed to be sorting out, but after three hours of trying to sort out SQL, SELECT INTO, PREPARE, EXECUTE and God knows whatever, I've reached a full stop. Need a refreshment break. Feel a bit rebellious, actually, so I'll scrawl something down. I've read elsewhere that some people wish that TMDR would go back to the recording studio. I do, and at the same time, I don't. I am of the "quit while you're winning" school, and a part of me feels that if he did go back, then he might struggle to recapture the freshness and originality of Science, Hyperactive, Pulp Culture and Cigar; instead he might carry on with bland stuff like "The Beauty of a Dream". TMDR has made three mighty albums, A & H is a flawed masterpiece too, and that would be hard to follow. As for making ambient music, or computer generated music, I don't want to know. Strikes me as being a bit nerdish. Who knows, unpredictability is one of the perks of being an artist, so with TMDR anything can happen, and I hope that it does. Meanwhile we can all share what he has done, cos it's bloody well worth enjoying. John PS I'll probably be excommunicated for the above, now.. the shortest ever residency at Alloy ? PPS Has anyone ever heard of the Kane Gang ? The TMDR link, albeit tenuous is that TMDR worked with Newcastle band Prefab Sprout, arguably the finest name for a pop group, and erstwhile Dolby prodigy Paddy McAloon of the Sprouts was mentor to the Kane Gang, a trio who only made two albums, but were magnificent all the same. PPPS New Toy is the most prophetic song TMDR ever wrote. PPPPS Is anyone interested in how I became attached to the music of TMDR ? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 13:33:15 -0800 From: Eclipse Subject: Re: Alloy: Trains don't collide on a regular basis John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com wrote: > > Need a refreshment break. > > Feel a bit rebellious, actually, so I'll scrawl something down. > > I've read elsewhere that some people wish that TMDR would go back to > the recording studio. I do, and at the same time, I don't. I am of the > "quit while you're winning" school, and a part of me feels that if he > did go back, then he might struggle to recapture the freshness and > originality of Science, Hyperactive, Pulp Culture and Cigar; instead > he might carry on with bland stuff like "The Beauty of a Dream". > > TMDR has made three mighty albums, A & H is a flawed masterpiece too, > and that would be hard to follow. As for making ambient music, or > computer generated music, I don't want to know. Strikes me as being a > bit nerdish. I take it you didn't really like Gate then? Be warned: A handful of resident alloids consider being nerdish a bit of a virtue. IMHO, A & H was his best work (and happens to be one of my absolute all-time favorite albums)... If I'm not mistaken, the man himself seems to have a certain fondness for that particular album.. as it were. If he did more along the lines of "The Beauty of a Dream", I at least would be perfectly delighted.. besides, (okay, this is probably more appropriate for the female Alloids), who else can make the words "spam tin" sound sexy? ;) Even so, can any of us really see TMDR sticking to any -one- style? One of his greatest strengths and one of the most appealing qualities of his work is its brilliant diversity, while still somehow maintaining his own particular style. Likewise, it wouldn't seem to me that the "quit while you're winning" sort of advice would apply, unless the artist considers his works a craft, or a product... something to produce, albeit to try to make fun and appealing and meaningful... but if it is more of an art, something that comes from the heart, then to stop creating would be like deciding not to breathe any more... Granted, he could very well keep playing and composing on his own time and not bother trying to record or especially share it with the rest of us, but that would strike me as wildly improbable... Even busy with Headspace, he's managed to do new pieces to be used with Beatnik (which of course, I haven't gotten to hear yet, *sigh*.. maybe this summer I can upgrade my computer..) > Who knows, unpredictability is one of the perks of being an artist, so > with TMDR anything can happen, and I hope that it does. Meanwhile we > can all share what he has done, cos it's bloody well worth enjoying. > > John > > PS I'll probably be excommunicated for the above, now.. the shortest > ever residency at Alloy ? Nahhh... you'll probably draw comments, but -I've- said some more unpopular things than that, I think, and the other Alloids seem to put up with me well enough. > PPPPS Is anyone interested in how I became attached to the music of > TMDR ? Ooooh, more stories.. do tell. Oh, and by the way, hello, welcome to the list... =) -- E(lipse 2 + 2 = 5.25 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:52:21 -0500 From: "Stephen M. Tilson" Subject: Alloy: How JH got attached... John Hanson wrote: > PPPPS Is anyone interested in how I became attached to the music > of TMDR? Robin? Another pint for this good fellow, if you please. Ah, you're a darlin! Now, laddie, tell your tale. , /\/\iles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 19:41:46 +0000 From: Lem Bingley Subject: Alloy: Interesting link As I know a couple of Alloids out there are fans of DIY music, I thought I should recommend the following site: http://sofa.fortunecity.com/alpha7.htm which is the home of Peter Roberts, aka Alpha Seven, a guy I got to know recently whose home-produced CD 'Great Lift Journeys of Norwhich (and other stories)' is IMHO fantastic and potentially of interest to Dolby fans. Well, in that at least one track has the sound of crickets on it.... There are RealAudio downloads available via the 'CDs and Sounds' link to try before you buy if you're interested in the CD. Shameless plug over. Lem ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:43:26 -0800 (PST) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Re: Alloy: Trains don't collide on a regular basis Actually, John, I agree with you. If they boot you out on your rear, I guess I'll be going too! And on a related note, I would like to add that I think it might be sometimes unfair of some Alloyeds to insist on nothing but specifically TMDR-related threads. Since he's not recording music for the masses, and until recently we weren't even promised a list of the latest out of Headspace (and/or his speaking schedule), what exactly were we supposed to discuss repeatedly? "AAMB is the worst album he did." "Is not." "Is too." He's obviously moved on to other things, so I see no reason why we would want to dwell in the past all the time either. Since I've begun pissing off Alloy members one by one for a few weeks now, I'll go ahead and say what I think, and start from scratch later if I can. :) Letting it all hang out, - -- Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) And...PPPPS to John: sure! On Tue, 3 Mar 1998 John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com wrote: > TMDR has made three mighty albums, A & H is a flawed masterpiece too, > and that would be hard to follow. As for making ambient music, or > computer generated music, I don't want to know. Strikes me as being a > bit nerdish. > > PS I'll probably be excommunicated for the above, now.. the shortest > ever residency at Alloy ? > > PPPPS Is anyone interested in how I became attached to the music of > TMDR ? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:57:21 -0500 (EST) From: Keith Dawe Subject: Re: Alloy: Trains don't collide on a regular basis, well sometimes! On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Elaine Linstruth wrote: > Actually, John, I agree with you. If they boot you out on your rear, I > guess I'll be going too! A list compromised of people with varied opinions is what keeps a 'place' like Alloy alive. It would get a tad stuffy in here if everyone was cozy with everything that TMDR has done, don't you think? Everyone is allowed to dislike songs that Mr. Dolby has done; after all, creative endeavours are entirely subjective so it is highly improbable--though not impossible--to like everything. And an artist, such as Dolby himself, needs to experiment to stay alive, creatively speaking, so it wouldn't be surprising that some experiments may fall flat on their figurative faces...but at least he's actually tried and we can at least respect his less appreciated projects because he's being true to himself, doing what he enjoys doing. And that is why I am a TMDR fan even though I may only love a portion of his work smaller than, say, 100%! > Headspace (and/or his speaking schedule), what exactly were we supposed to > discuss repeatedly? "AAMB is the worst album he did." "Is not." "Is > too." He's obviously moved on to other things, so I see no reason why we > would want to dwell in the past all the time either. Or how about: "All the music TMDR has done is amazing!" "Yes, I agree! And is other projects too." "Yep, yep. Everything he's done is amazing!" "Yes, and everything he would've done, is doing and will do is amazing!" As long as we respect others' opinions we should feel free to discuss our own. > Since I've begun pissing off Alloy members one by one for a few weeks now, > I'll go ahead and say what I think, and start from scratch later if I can. Really? That job belongs to me! I lurk, suddenly open my big yap, people scream, I run back to lurk once again! :-) Oh what the heck. I'll come out an say it..."I love AAMB. It's the best record he's ever done!" There, that should get the ball rolling. ;-) - --Omega - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- omega@torfree.net Evangelion * Fushigi Yuugi * Maison Ikkoku * Marmalade Boy Brother, Dear Brother * Red Riding Hood Cha Cha * Oh My Goddess! King Crimson * Mike Oldfield * John Foxx * Gary Numan * David Bowie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:32:48 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Re: Alloy: Trains don't collide on a regular basis In article <0033B197.1208@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com>, you wrote: > I've read elsewhere that some people wish that TMDR would go back to > the recording studio. I do, and at the same time, I don't. I am of the > "quit while you're winning" school, and a part of me feels that if he > did go back, then he might struggle to recapture the freshness and > originality of Science, Hyperactive, Pulp Culture and Cigar; instead > he might carry on with bland stuff like "The Beauty of a Dream". ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ To be brutally honest, it is quite possible that Thomas will never again regain the mass appeal he had in the early 80s. He may well be destined to be known by the masses as "The 'Blinded By Science' Guy". and doomed to being imprisoned on Hits Of The 80s compilations. But I don't think he should give up on making music because of that. Today's music industry is ruled by the fancies of 12 year old school girls. If it were not so there would be no Spice Girls and Hanson would be hanging out in their local mall looking for opportunites to shoplift. So you can either say, "I quit", "I'll follow the trends" or "I'll keep making the music that I want to make." Even though Thomas might never become a household name like the Spice Girls I don't think he should give up on music. When the Spice Girls 15 minutes are up, then they'll all likely end up working in the Gap (except possibly Sporty Spice since she's the only one who can actually sing). When Thomas's 15 minutes ran out he still continued to make the kind of music he wanted and his loyal fans still love him for this. It's been about 16 years since "Science" made Thomas a star, and he still has a large following of devoted fans all over the world. What do you think are the odds that 16 years from now the Spice Girls will be doing so well. Thomas also has the respect and admiration of many, many fine musicians. I've said before that Thomas is very much a musician's musician. Just look at how many musicians there are on this list. If Thomas were to give up on making music not only would he be letting down his many fans, but most importantly he'd ultimately be letting down himself and his own potential. I can understand him keeping Headspace as a dayjob, but I hope it won't stop him from creating the kind of music we've all come to admire him for. CRACKERS (Fingers crossed from hell!!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:41:02 -0500 From: "Stephen M. Tilson" Subject: Alloy: Elaine stands up! I 2nd. Our thankfully bold and observant Elaine wrote: > And on a related note, I would like to add that I think it might > be sometimes unfair of some Alloyeds to insist on nothing but > specifically TMDR-related threads. Since he's not recording music > for the masses, and until recently we weren't even promised a > list of the latest out of Headspace (and/or his speaking > schedule), what exactly were we supposed to discuss repeatedly? > "AAMB is the worst album he did." "Is not." "Is too." He's > obviously moved on to other things, so I see no reason why we > would want to dwell in the past all the time either. > > Since I've begun pissing off Alloy members one by one for a few > weeks now, I'll go ahead and say what I think, and start from > scratch later if I can. :) Excuse me, but right the on! I cannot agree with you more Elaine, and I am so relieved to know I am not the only one who feels this way. This is our livingroom, so to speak. We are together because we share an affinity for the music of TMDR, but that is only a beginning. Why then should we not explore what else we might, or might not, have in common with each other? If we were literally in the same room that is certainly what we would do. Thomas gave us the gift of bringing us together; it is up to us to take it from there. After all, it's not like there are 2000 people on this list all hungering for the latest big Dolby news. So let's take his gift for what it's worth, and see what we can make of it. Most sincerely, /\/\iles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:30:12 EST From: RThurF Subject: Alloy: pissing people off In a message dated 98-03-03 15:53:00 EST, Elaine wrote: << Since I've begun pissing off Alloy members one by one for a few weeks now, I'll go ahead and say what I think, and start from scratch later if I can. :) >> I've never been pissed off by anything you've said, Elaine! What have I missed? :) I really like it when people speak their minds, except of course when it's being done just to express hostile, insulting, redundant, illogical, long- winded, egotistical opinions on practically *everything* for no apparent reason other than to embarrass himself (I refer directly to 'you-know-who' here, who is no longer with us) And "topic" vs "off-topic"... for me, it's enough to know that everyone here at Alloy shares an interest in Thomas' beautiful work. Drifting in and out of other topics of conversation is only natural on a mailing list I assume - I'm guessing because this is the only one I've ever belonged to. Of course it's always FANTASTIC to hear news about Thomas :) Speaking of which, has anyone heard anything about the VH1 thing coming up? I hope it isn't for another few weeks; Dave and I still have to find a decent cable company... Robin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:43:36 -0800 (PST) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Alloy: Allright :) Yay, I haven't been pummelled with ICK. Awesome. So, in the spirit of things, here's a question I was wondering about: (TMDR-related in a tangent sort of way). Have you all heard that the Artist (Prince) has released his new album (another double album), and it is for sale in one retail outlet only? (In the US, it's Best Buy.) I was reading an article about this, and it appears that what they're trying to do is circumvent the usual 4th-5th-6th middle man thing that is so much a part of any artist's trying to get a record made/marketed/sold/accounted etc. This is a goal of Beatnik too, no? Anyway, it sounds intriguing to me.. of course, Prince has his own recording studio and doesn't need any label to produce an album, so it's all relative. But, if he succeeds in making this album sell, it might signal a turn in how we are marketed and/or how we shop for music in the US at least. (Internet notwithstanding.) I thought I'd open this up as a topic, because I wonder what parallels we can draw between this approach and Beatnik, and also what some of you who know more about the recording industry can tell us. Like, is the Artist really doing something special here, or is this all just pure hype. Btw, the supposition is that he chose Best Buy because they are Minnesota-based, as is he. (This is why he didn't choose some major outlet like Tower or HMV.) - -- Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:06:56 EST From: CJ Mark Subject: Re: Alloy: Elaine stands up! I 2nd. Hello all.. Sorry for being so removed much of the time.. Although I read all my Alloyed mail with relish.. (gets a bit messy at times.) I all too often have no time to sit and conjure up things worth saying in return. However.. I must say.. By all means let's include other things in our ongoing discussions... The pleasure of hearing about everyone's meeting their partners was fun primarily because I felt I kind of knew the person at the other end of the keyboard.. Apart from the fact that some of the stories were great fun in themselves. Regarding the aspects of TMDR's music being all great.. all the time.. well. of course we all have our tastes.. and different songs and productions are going to appeal to each of us for different reasons.. Duh!! Must we all agree?? Let's certainly hope not! I was fortunate enough to have seen TMDR in Vancouver BC, Canada during what I guess was '84.. I really don't remember off the top of my head.. but what a great show it was.! I actually arrived at the concert from Vancouver Island.. met a friend there.. saw the show and then rode back to Seattle.. where I was living at the time.. It was a memorable concert.. and I only wish I could replay it better in the memory cells.. And to top it off.. I was given the tickets for free by a friend that worked at Capitol Records! If TMDR would only record again.. I would be there.. waiting patiently in line to buy the first copy. Meanwhile.. to throw a new thought into the process.. The other artist that I follow to a similar extent is Seal. As some of you probably know.. Trevor Horn produces Seal.. and the combination is something amazing.. at least for me. My dream..? Walking into a CD store and finding that TMDR and Seal have done an album together and Trevor has produced it.. Wow.. Ahh well.. . I must now head off to packing.. got a three week trip to Florida to do some filming.. and I may not have access to the land of Alloy as much as I'd like.. To all.. a cool day.. and ciao for now.. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:14:03 EST From: CJ Mark Subject: Re: Alloy: Allright :) Hmm.. (Btw, the supposition is that he chose Best Buy because they are Minnesota-based, as is he. (This is why he didn't choose some major outlet like Tower or HMV.) I wonder why he didn't choose Musicland.. which is based in Minneapolis.. as is The Artist.. and has the biggest music store chain in the US... at least they used to. Perhaps they kept wanting to place his CDs under the "Prince" heading.. Hmmm.. Mark ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V3 #59 **************************