From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V3 #38 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Tuesday, February 10 1998 Volume 03 : Number 038 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: Shirt adventures ["Stephen M. Tilson" ] Re: Alloy: Alloy Shirts!!! [Juha Takkinen ] Alloy: Valentine's story from the_copse [Beth Meyer ] Alloy: Alloy Shirts!!! ["Stephen M. Tilson" ] Alloy: Shirt adventures ["Stephen M. Tilson" ] Re: Alloy: Re: Allez oop [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Alloy: something to do while flying [RThurF@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 01:15:53 -0500 From: "Stephen M. Tilson" Subject: Alloy: Shirt adventures Whilst doing the weekly shopping today I was pleased to raise a few eyebr= ows = with my Dolby/Alloy sweatshirt. One person commented (out of the blue), "Either he's touring again, or th= at = shirt is *remarkably* well preserved!" Another person was heard to say, "Wow. Thomas Dolby! There's a name I = haven't heard since college. He had some great videos!" Of course, I took these moments as opportunities to recite the latest = developments from TMDR, blatantly advertising Headspace, Beatnik, A&H, an= d = The Gate. Cheerio, /\/\iles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 98 21:35:51 +1000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Re: Alloy: Shirt adventures >Whilst doing the weekly shopping today I was pleased to raise a few eyebrows >with my Dolby/Alloy sweatshirt. Well, wearing other bits of clothing along with it may have helped avoid this. :-) >Of course, I took these moments as opportunities to recite the latest >developments from TMDR, blatantly advertising Headspace, Beatnik, A&H, and >The Gate. But not Alloy? I got mine today, thank you sir! It's too cool for words. So cool in fact, that you could use it as an icepack in an esky! I'm gonna see if I can get the headshot for the mag to show some of it. :-) Paul. ________________________________________________________________________ Paul Baily paulb@thehub.com.au JustSomeGuy http://www.thehub.com.au/~paulb Brisbane tel: +61-7-3857-8048/+61-411-875-009 Australia The right situation is over. A new situation begins. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 12:35:53 +0100 From: Juha Takkinen Subject: Re: Alloy: Alloy Shirts!!! Stephen_Tilson@compuserve.com said: > Here's to Alloy, and may your shirt last a very long time! Thanks, Stephen and everybody involved, for the shirt (or the unique "everybody-asks-me-who's-Thomas-Dolby garment" :)! It's very nice to wear and it looks good! I've just sent you the cheque (with the post today, Monday). Best regards, /Juha - -- Juha Takkinen 100 % Finn 100 % Swede 100 % Bass ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 08:35:45 -0500 From: Beth Meyer Subject: Alloy: Valentine's story from the_copse Shall I tell all about the Nadia situation? Well, not quite, as doubtless the truth would sound so hilariously fairy-tale if I told it all that nobody would believe me! But anyway, here's the grand story of how we met, and it would be great if you could could chop out the rest of this message and send it on to Alloy. It all started in my first term at uni, when I'd just been elected Director of the Glee Club(!) and my first mission was to take them into town and sing a load of Christmas Carols at the long-suffering local populace. As I was still really new and didn't know anyone, I was pleased when a couple of girls came up to me at the meeting point and asked if I was with the choir - - I was so new that I hadn't even taken a rehearsal yet. Gradually the choir gathered and we walked into town. One of the girls, a standard English student type faded away a bit and I found myself talking to the other one who was so wrapped up against the cold that I could only really see half of a small face between layers of clothing. I learnt that she was Moroccan, had never been away from home before, and that her parents lived out in the Middle East. It was really weird talking to someone so lively and interesting at uni, as even then it was clear that students aren't as witty and knowledgable as they might be. I remember taking her round some of the sights of York, as being a local I know it better than most. The strange thing about all of this is that I didn't fancy her in the slightest, as she was obviously SUCH a class act, and at the time my face was all screwed up because of some severe medication I was on, which I wrongly assumed would limit my chances anyway, so nothing much further happened. A couple of days later I was surprised to have her rush up to me in front of my friends and demand why I hadn't replied to her e-mails yet. Having not encountered this particular technology yet, I was invited round to her room, where I went later that night to find her there with a girl from my course who also lived on her corridor, and who by an amazing coincidence, was also a member of an African royal family, this time a Ugandan one (via South London.) We ended up staying in her room till about 2 in the morning, until she fell asleep. And that was I think when the bolt struck, because lying there like that she was just so exquisitely beautiful - I'd never seen anything like it ever. I had to wait until after the Christmas holidays though before I saw her again, when I left a note on her door (which we still have) saying something like 'come round tonight, doesn't matter how late.' And she did which surprised me. The strange thing was that even when we were lying on my beanbag on my bed I still thought she was just going to be a good friend (I'd had loads of really gorgeous girl friends at school who'd never got beyond that stage) but then when I put on A Tribe Called Called Quest's 'People's Instinctive Travels' the inevitable happened, and I think we both surprised ourselves. sigh. As evenings go it ranks just above playing my number one album to a packed Wembley stadium then watching Spurs murder Man United 6-0 in the Cup Final with the public execution of the Spice Girls in the half-time interval. And to think all that was over 4 years ago now! It certainly doesn't seem like it. Well that's a small part of my story, I just wish I was still on Alloy to read everyon else's! See you all soon the_copse - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Beth Meyer School of Psychology Pager: +1-404-866-1362 Georgia Institute of Technology FAX: +1-404-894-8905 274 5th St. gt9020a@prism.gatech.edu -or- Atlanta, GA 30332-0170 bmeyer@psy.psych.gatech.edu http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gt9020a/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 15:17:02 +0000 From: Lem Bingley Subject: Alloy: Shirt-tastic Hi all, My, what a talkative lot you've been while I've been away. Much catching up to do. So at the risk of stating the already stated I'd just like to say Thank You to the movers and shakers who turned the idea of a T-Shirt into the wonderful objet d'art I have in front of me. We travelled a winding road from Melissa's throw-away comment that we should have some shirts that just said 'Fruit Juice Everywhere.' Some said it would never happen (you did, didn't you Slarv...) but it did. I'm 100% thrilled with it (even though it bears no resemblence to either of my designs.... bah humbug). I may never wear it - or I may never take it off - I haven't made up my mind yet. Lem. BTW - for those that wished me well, I survived my skiing holiday intact. Amazingly good fun, but very scary when shussing (I probably spelled that wrong). And very tiring. My legs may never be the same again. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 16:26:58 -0500 From: "Stephen M. Tilson" Subject: Alloy: Alloy Shirts!!! Our Dear Juha wrote: > Thanks, Stephen and everybody involved, for the shirt (or the = > unique "everybody-asks-me-who's-Thomas-Dolby garment" :)! It's = > very nice to wear and it looks good! > = > I've just sent you the cheque (with the post today, Monday). Thank you, Sir! > 100 % Finn 100 % Swede 100 % Bass Hmmm, does this mean you're a Swedish Crowded House/Paul Hester fan? Oh,= = sorry! Wrong list. /\/\iles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 16:26:59 -0500 From: "Stephen M. Tilson" Subject: Alloy: Shirt-tastic Our Man Bingley intoned: > I'm 100% thrilled with it (even though it bears no resemblence to = > either of my designs.... bah humbug). = No worries, mate. There's always next, I mean this, year. > I may never wear it - or I may never take it off - I haven't made = > up my mind yet. /\/\iles --- grinning like a fool! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 16:26:57 -0500 From: "Stephen M. Tilson" Subject: Alloy: Shirt adventures Paul-o wrote: >>Of course, I took these moments as opportunities to recite the = >>latest developments from TMDR, blatantly advertising Headspace, = >>Beatnik, A&H, and The Gate. > = > But not Alloy? Ah, they were just dilettants, dear one. One step at a time lest you sca= re = the critters away. > So cool...you could use it as an icepack in an esky! Umm, help me out here? What mean you say? Glad you're pleased, Paul. Do post the "headshot" when it comes .= . = =2E I mean when you get your hands on it ... er, nevermind. /\/\iles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 16:27:01 -0500 From: "Stephen M. Tilson" Subject: Alloy: Valentine's story from.. the_copse via Beth: > ...but then when I put on A Tribe Called Called Quest's 'People's = > Instinctive Travels' the inevitable happened ... ^^^^^^^^^^ = Wow, I gotta get this recording! "Mary! Oh, Mary! C'mere hon= ey, = I want you to liten to this . . ." > As evenings go it ranks just above playing my number one album to = > a packed Wembley stadium then watching Spurs murder Man United = > 6-0 in the Cup Final with the public execution of the Spice Girls = > in the half-time interval. L,OL! A tremendously romantic thing to say . . . = Nice story, Tim! /\/\iles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 18:31:42 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Alloy: Alloy Re:Thomas at SXSW Interactive festival this March Anyone headed from Boston to Austin for the weekend of Saturday March 14th? I'll pay for the gas! :) Robin << Rheingold Will Deliver Keynote Speech at SXSW Interactive Festival AUSTIN, Texas--(ENTERTAINMENT WIRE)--Feb. 9, 1998--Howard Rheingold, one of the world's most prominent thinkers regarding how new technology is radically reshaping our future, will deliver the keynote speech at the 1998 South by Southwest (SXSW) Interactive Festival. This speech will be the centerpiece of the Opening Reception on the evening of Saturday, March 14, at GSDM Advertising. Rheingold's list of accomplishments in new media go on and on. In 1996, he founded and launched Electric Minds. Two years previous to this, he was one of the principal architects and first executive editor of HotWired. Rheingold has also written or contributed to 11 books, including The Virtual Community: Homesteading at the Electronic Frontier, Virtual Reality, The Millennium Whole Earth Catalog, and The Cognitive Connection: Thought and Language in Man and Machine. Scheduled March 14-17 at the Austin Convention Center, the SXSW Interactive Festival features over 170 national, industry experts speaking on 45 panels covering cutting-edge internet trends, technologies and markets. Panels are divided into six different tracks: "Web Publishing," "Music 2000," "Digital Hollywood," "Gaming Trends," "Money & Marketing" and "Business-to- Business." Confirmed panelists include: Vince Broady (GameSpot), Po Bronson (author), Matthew Brunner (Will Vinton Studios), Andrew Busey (ichat, Inc.), Nicholas Butterworth (SonicNet), Chris Crawford (Erasmatazz), Thomas Dolby (Headspace, Inc.), Kevin Edwards (CNET), Jennifer Frommer (Sony Music), Richard Garriott (Origin Systems), Lisa Goldman (Construct), Richard Grimes (Cool Site of the Day), Willy Henshall (www.ResRocket.com), J.C. Herz (author), Bob Huntley (DWANGO), Steven Johnson (FEED), Wes Kilgore (Live Online), Steve Kirsh (Digital Talent Agency), Bonnie Lemon (National Geographic), Bob Linehan (COREMAX Digital Renaissance), Eric Marcoullier (Imagine Media, Inc.), Joanne Marino (WENOIZE), Jim Marshal (Silicon Valley Bank), Larry Miller (AT&T/a2b Music), Mark Morgenstern (ASCAP), Brian Moriarity (Mpath Interactive, Inc.), Thon Morse (Applied Multimedia Productions), Andrew Nelson (Storybox), Tim Nye (Sunshine Interactive Network), Dr. Jon Peddie (Jon Peddie Associates), Derek Powazek (The Fray), Mark F. Radcliffe (Gray Cary Ware Freidenrich), Henk Rogers (Blue Planet Software, Inc), George Sanger (Team Fat), Jodi Sax (Lawgirl), Jen Scoville (Texas Monthly), Cliff Sharples (Garden Escape), Debbie Shlens (Hasbro Interactive Worldwide), Warren Spector (Ion Storm), Mark Stahlman (New Media Associates, Inc.), Molly Steenson (Maxi), Heidi Swanson (Imagine Media, Inc.), Dave Taylor (Crack dot Com), Jim Van Huysse (TheDJ.com), and Marc Weiss (P.O.V. Interactive). For a complete list of panels and speakers, refer to the sxsw web page at www.sxsw.com. In addition to the panels, the event includes a three-day trade show that showcases various 21st-century products and services. For more information on the SXSW Interactive Festival, call Elizabeth Derczo at 512/451-3802. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 19:19:29 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Alloy: something to do while flying Hi Alloy people, I've got an FABULOUS idea for everyone here to try, thanks to my friend Kim's new upstairs neighbors who just moved to Massachusetts from England, via Virgin Atlantic Airways. Toward the end of their flight, the man asked one of the attendants if he could sit in the cockpit & watch the pilot land the plane - - and they actually let him!! He said it was the coolest thing in the world. I thought I should propose this as an idea to the fine members of this list as a possible Alloy tradition in the works: each time one of us flies, he or she has to try gaining permission to sit in the cockpit for the landing. I know I, personally, am dying to try this now! It would be equally fun to see the different airlines' reactions to the request. Could Virgin Atlantic simply be a particularly nice airline which likes to indulge its passengers whims? I have heard that they give out socks and those little things with which to cover your eyes while you sleep & say "wakey- wakey!" on the outside (this according to friends who've travelled this airline personally), as well as backpacks featuring their logo. Robin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 00:28:42 GMT From: IT Admin - Govt Office North West Subject: Re: Alloy: Re: Allez oop At 18:41 08/02/98 EST, Robin wrote: > >I would never intentionally tease you Slarvi. I only mentioned it again to >give closure to my previous statement & let you know it ended well after all, >in spite of my worries. As far as what was actually said, it was really just a >mere matter of personal concern on my part which is now resolved, my dear >inquisitive Slarv! > >Robin > > You're not going to spill the beanz, are you? I bet Mr Crackers wants to know what the 'personal concern' was, even more than I do. Ask her, Mr Crackers, go on, I bet you're dying to. *I* didn't really want to know, ANYWAY, so THERE! ;-( ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 16:50:30 -0800 (PST) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Re: Alloy: something to do while flying I don't know about y'all, but the only place I want to be while my plane is landing, is firmly fastened into my seat. No cockpit I've ever seen would allow more than a good look into the cockpit before takeoff. (I'm sorry but this story sounds suspect to me.) But if it's really true, or the British (or other) airlines do things a lot differently, then more power to ya! I do think we'd be hard pressed to find an American one which would allow this. - -- Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) On Mon, 9 Feb 1998 RThurF@aol.com wrote: > I've got an FABULOUS idea for everyone here to try, thanks to my friend > Kim's new upstairs neighbors who just moved to Massachusetts from > England, via Virgin Atlantic Airways. Toward the end of their flight, > the man asked one of the attendants if he could sit in the cockpit & > watch the pilot land the plane - and they actually let him!! He said it > was the coolest thing in the world. I thought I should propose this as > an idea to the fine members of this list as a possible Alloy tradition > in the works: each time one of us flies, he or she has to try gaining > permission to sit in the cockpit for the landing. I know I, personally, > am dying to try this now! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 20:29:07 -0500 From: Jeff Wasilko Subject: Re: Alloy: something to do while flying On Mon, Feb 09, 1998 at 07:19:29PM -0400, RThurF@aol.com wrote: > Hi Alloy people, > > I've got an FABULOUS idea for everyone here to try, thanks to my friend Kim's > new upstairs neighbors who just moved to Massachusetts from England, via > Virgin Atlantic Airways. Toward the end of their flight, the man asked one of > the attendants if he could sit in the cockpit & watch the pilot land the plane Ahh, a topic particularly dear to my heart! I'm a bit of an aviation nut, and asked the same question when I was flying from Boston to London (LHR) on British Airways. I was able to make 2 visits to the flight deck -- once while at cruise altitude at night to see the beautiful northern lights and again as we landed. The flight crew were wonderful, and I ended up spending almost 2 hours on the flight deckt... I've got photos of the event that might interest you on my home page (http://www.smoe.org/~jeffw). > It would be equally fun to see the different airlines' reactions to the > request. Don't bother asking a US-based carrier, as it's against FAA regulations and they won't do it. Most other airlines leave it to pilot's discretion. You can generally get to the flight deck on a US-based carrier while the aircraft is on the ground. I spent a while chatting with the pilots on a United 777 in Washington as we waited for the mechanics to fix a problem (now that's a neat aircraft!). > Could Virgin Atlantic simply be a particularly nice airline which likes to > indulge its passengers whims? I have heard that they give out socks and those > little things with which to cover your eyes while you sleep & say "wakey- > wakey!" on the outside (this according to friends who've travelled this > airline personally), as well as backpacks featuring their logo. When you take an international flight you usually get an amenities kit that includes socks, eye covers, ear plugs, toothbrush & toothpaste, etc. - -Jeff (smoe.org systems wrangler and part time aviation nut) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 23:27:17 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Re: Allez oop In a message dated 98-02-09 20:00:40 EST, Slarvi wrote: << *I* didn't really want to know, ANYWAY, so THERE! ;-( >> NOW you're making me feel really guilty, just because I don't want to look freaky in front of all you good people, displaying my correspondences for all the world to see!! Robin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 23:15:25 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: something to do while flying In a message dated 98-02-09 21:11:47 EST, Jeff wrote: << When you take an international flight you usually get an amenities kit that includes socks, eye covers, ear plugs, toothbrush & toothpaste, etc. >> The few times I flew internationally (via Pan Am, Air India and a couple of others) I didn't get ANYTHING! In fact on one nighttime Air India flight we were so packed into our seats there wasn't any space to move. I couldn't sleep in the upright locked position my chair was stuck in, and spent the night watched the Perseids (spectacular!!!), with the woman next to me sleeping with her feet in my lap & her head on her husband's shoulder (no, I didn't know either of them...but felt it would be pointless to wake her up) Robin ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V3 #38 **************************