From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V2 #271 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Monday, December 1 1997 Volume 02 : Number 271 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: eduction etc. (hint) [Eclipse ] Re: Alloy: Ah, life in my fantasy world. [crackers@hwcn.org] Re: Alloy: Kate Bush [IT Admin - Govt Office North West ] Re: Re: Alloy: Square Paper [RThurF ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 12:06:15 -0800 From: Eclipse Subject: Re: Alloy: eduction etc. (hint) Paul Baily wrote: > > uh guys, great thread, very well thought out and articulated by all > ...but we /are/ about done with it aren't we? > > (read: take it offline please.) > > thanks in advance, > > Paul. Err, oh dear, didn't get to this in time. I'm sorry!!! Well, Paul has spoken, no more education posts from me.. If several of you guys want to continue it off the list, count me in at least... eclipse@a.crl.com -- E(lipse ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 15:00:06 -0500 (EST) From: crackers@hwcn.org Subject: Re: Alloy: Ah, life in my fantasy world. In article <19971129.133532.6782.7.dalexander@juno.com>, you wrote: >For me, I'm living in a fantasy world, like Braveheart or Rob Roy. When >life was rough, men were men and women were women. Though, my world has >no English or lords in it, just clans. But, then again, life was awfully >rough! Maybe it's just my visions of using hand-to-hand combat on my >ex-brother-in-law (the creep!) ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ That's odd... my fantasy world is populated with scantily clad, bi-sexual asian women with firm breasts and tight butts who worship me as a god and wrestle each other in baby oil for the privillege of rubbing coco-butter on my loins then quiver with delightful anticipation when I stand, place my hands on my hips and bellow in a deep, god-like voice, "kneel and pay tribute". Then at night we feast and afterwards I sit upon my thrown, clap my hands like thunder and command, "Dance for me my lovely asian nymphs! Dance! HA HA HAAAAA". And I watch their lythe bodies perform for me in the flickering touchlight while the nymph-of-the-day delights me with her exotic tongue. Hey! If you're going to dream... DREAM BIG! CRACKERS (And they all just LOVE the accordion from hell!!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 00:34:49 GMT From: IT Admin - Govt Office North West Subject: Re: Alloy: Kate Bush At 11:42 29/11/97 -0700, JAMac wrote: > >Try Kate Bush's "Hounds of Love." I can never quite make my mind up about Kate Bush. I have only three of her albums (Lionheart, the Dreaming, Hounds of Love) but the only one that lived up to expectations, and that I played a lot, was HoL. A strange thing occurred, not long after HoL was released. I was doing some decorating one Saturday afternoon and had the radio on, which is unusual as I normally played tapes or LPs, and Kate was being interviewed about the new album. I missed the first few minutes, but caught the whole of the part about side two, 'The Ninth Wave.' Prior to hearing this, I have no idea what this was all about, I just listened and enjoyed it, but after hearing the interview it all fell into place. I can't remember all the details but essentially it's the thoughts going through the mind of a girl who's been shiwrecked and is floating in the sea in a life jacket. It starts with her being exhausted and wanting to sleep, but fighting against it because she knows if she doesn't stay awake, she'll probably drown or die from exposure. The 'Little light shining' is the tiny lamp on the lifejacket that helps her to be seen by would be rescuers. (The photos on the back of the LP sleeve and also one on the inner sleeve has Kate in a deflated life jacket.) In the second track, she's lost the battle, and fallen asleep, having strange dreams of being trapped under ice and calling, unheard, for help. I can't remember the details of the rest of the tracks, but I thought the victim was fighting against giving in to death, finally winning, being rescued and realising how much she loves her family. I could be totally wrong about the conclusion (it WAS in 1985 after all) but I prefer an optimistic ending. Slarv ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 20:11:42 EST From: RThurF Subject: Re: Alloy: Scary Kate! In a message dated 11/30/97 5:46:15 AM, JAMac wrote: <> I do have that album. I love the pieces you mention, they're very creepy, but they didn't make me want to run screaming from the building like that 7 seconds in Resurrection does. There is something of the sublime in almost all of Kate's work. I wrote a short story based on one of her songs for a fiction writing class & my professor LOVED it (the song was "Hello Earth") You shouldn't have thrown it away!! Robin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 20:22:23 EST From: RThurF Subject: Re: Re: Alloy: Square Paper In a message dated 11/30/97 5:46:23 AM, crackers wrote: >I sat down, and he began handing piles of paper to me in a distracted manner ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ Oh, those were his careful notes. ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ >, all of them covered in tiny writing. I began to look them over. ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ Were they like tiny insects in the palm of history? ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ >The symbols in pencil on these pages were strange to me; I was afraid I >wouldn't understand. ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ You can't reeeeeeeeeead his writing. His own writing! LOL!! I noticed these similarities too as I was writing the dream out. I now disagree with my Recording article interpretation, so... the only thing remaining is, why was the paper square? Why might square paper help someone to understand all those teeny little physics equations written on it (or whatever on earth they were - more like alchemical symbols, or something) Who knows! Shall I just haul myself in to my friendly local Jungian analyst now? I've been looking for some excuse to do so for ages anyway ;) zzzzzzzz Robin ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V2 #271 ***************************