From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V2 #242 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Thursday, November 6 1997 Volume 02 : Number 242 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: Dave & Robin's Page [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Fw: Attention Birthday Tape Contributors [ljackson@nstar.net (] Re: Alloy: Graveyard..? [IT Admin - Govt Office North West ] Alloy: Now Playing! ["Keith Stansell" ] Re: Alloy: Dave & Robin's Page [Frank ] Re: Alloy: Fw: Attention Birthday Tape Contributors [Frank ] Alloy: Crackers and Tom Waits [Melissa Jordan ] Re: Alloy: Re: Now Playing! [Frank ] Re: Alloy: Toiletries & gnomes [Elaine Linstruth ] Alloy: Re: Attn Braeda Ms Sakamoto ["Keith Stansell" ] Alloy: TMDR and Weird Al Yankovic ["J. Kevin Wells" ] Alloy: DPC: Deviant [crackers@hwcn.org] Re: Alloy: Graveyard..? [crackers@hwcn.org] Re: Alloy: Catching up again... [crackers@hwcn.org] Re: Alloy: Useless Trivia [crackers@hwcn.org] Re: Alloy: Crackers and Tom Waits [crackers@hwcn.org] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 02:16:34 -0500 (EST) From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Alloy: Dave & Robin's Page WHEW!! We've been working on it for three days straight to get it up & running. Still clunky, but it's so crazy it just might work. Please visit ht tp://members.aol.com/DThurkirk/medicineshow.html to preview some of Dave's artwork. (click on it! It's a link!) Also, in November's STRAD magazine (British violin insider mag), some colleagues of mine (David Bonsey & Ilya Rutman) are featured in the Chamber Music America article. The issue also features information on restoration, and the composer/musician relationship, which many of you might find interesting. Robin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 07:05:15 GMT From: ljackson@nstar.net (Lee Jackson) Subject: Re: Alloy: Fw: Attention Birthday Tape Contributors On Tue, 4 Nov 1997 23:28:18 -0500 (EST), you wrote: >Has anyone ever told you that you look a bit like "Sweet 'Ums"? Sweet 'Ums? Burl Ives? What is this, a conspiracy??? // Lee Jackson (ljackson@nstar.net) // Music and Sound Director // Apogee Software, Ltd. & 3D Realms Entertainment ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 01:00:46 GMT From: IT Admin - Govt Office North West Subject: Re: Alloy: Graveyard..? At 11:30 04/11/97 EST, Robin wrote: >Why is Robin posing in a graveyard? > >Dave and I often visit graveyards. Oh yes, I've read about people like you in the National Enquirer ( or Sunday Sport for you Brits; don't know what the equivalent is in Oz, but I bet they've got one. It'll have headlines like 'Aliens Ate My Buick' or some such nonsense.) >When I'm walking with Dave anywhere on such a beautiful day I am totally >happy, hence the spontaneous pose. It isn't meant to be disrepectful by any >means, though it might look incongruous. I don't know if you can see it in the >scan, but in the photo there are car headlights to my left. The car belongs to >a local family who drive their son across town to this graveyard on summer >nights so he can ride his bike on all the paths, without having to worry about >traffic (it's true!) > Seem perfectly reasonable to me, occifer. BTW, if they have to drive across town, the grave yard presumably isn't in the dead centre, though grave yards usually are. S ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 01:00:20 GMT From: IT Admin - Govt Office North West Subject: Re: Alloy: Useless Trivia At 22:39 03/11/97 -0800, Elaine wrote: > >I'd just like to say that I've noticed myself using the word "chuffed" in >regular conversation, a few times. ;) > Very good and thank you for sharing that with us. Now, with a little extra practice you'll be able to develop that into 'dead chuffed' i.e. really chuffed as opposed to just chuffed. Then you can go even further and refer to crazy people as 'bonkers' and when you're ready for the really advanced stuff you'll be able to say that things that are dead good are 'bazzing.' This last one is not widely used even in the UK, ( I think Croydon and Neil will back me up on this one) except by officianados of the more obscure aspects of Mancunian, and me, not that I'm not an officianado ..... oh bugger, I'm rambling again. It's that mental picture of Robin in the graveyard that keeps breaking my concentration, along with Miss S anticipating some sort of naughtiness at the X Day Drill ( well, I assume the pic was taken at the X Day Drill, perhaps I'm wrong, who can say?). As you may have guessed, I've been able to get into the scrapbook and look at all the pics properly today . I was ever so pleased to see that Paul has finally lost his inhibitions and put not one, but TWO (count 'em TWO) pics of himself in there. Now he ISN'T anything at all like I expected. Doesn't look like a computer geek at all, more like a Bondi Beach Surfer Boy. ;-) [This is a compliment, BTW, just in case there's any doubt about it.] ANYWAY, before I ramble off the end of the page completely, here endeth today's Colloquial English for Beginners Tutorial. BH [or S if you prefer (but I'm not really responsible for the crinkly bits on the fjords, honest Guv.)] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 01:00:29 GMT From: IT Admin - Govt Office North West Subject: Re: Alloy: Toiletries & gnomes At 22:38 03/11/97 -0800, you wrote: > >Yes, and does the rest of the world (those who celebrate Christmas, >anyway) put plastic lighted Santas and/or reindeer in their yards? > >-- >Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) > HA! I snigger at your plastic lighted Santas. In Manchester we have a GIANT INFLATABLE SANTA climbing up the town hall clock tower (actually, it looks like he's doing something indecent to it, but we won't dwell on that) and GIANT INFLATABLE REINDEER AND A SLEIGH on the town hall roof. This year miniature versions (by miniature I mean about five foot high) are on sale so shops and offices can have their own dodgy Santa hanging outside their premises. This will probably cause confusion amongst the teeny tinies, but that's what happens when commercialisation gets out of hand. At least a good percentage of the profits from the Santa sales is going to charities. Unfortunatley the giant Santa has sprung a leak every year he's been erected, so they have to get the giant puncture repair kit out and then pump the flaccid chap back up again. I think the record for the first puncture of the festive season has been about two hours. I'm sure I've got a scanned image of the old chap somewhere at work, but I'm mailing this from home so I can't attach it now, but I'll bung it out if I can find it when I get in tomorrow. Can you contain your excitement? 'fraid you'll just have to. TTFN S ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 01:00:37 GMT From: IT Admin - Govt Office North West Subject: Re: Alloy: Catching up again... At 09:11 04/11/97, Neil wrote: >Re: Alloy: Toiletries & gnomes > >Hi Beth, > >>However, having seen "The Full Monty," I found the garden gnome >>reference pretty hysterical myself. > >This film is a real tonic. Made me laugh so much it hurt. Just as an >aside after "watching ...Monty" I discovered that I can't laugh and >publicly pee at the same time. Just before leaving the cinema I needed to >releave myself. Stood in front of the urinal, willy in hand, I started >laughing over the memory of the dole queue scene and just couldn't go. What a delightful picture this conjures up. > >If any Alloyers haven't seen it yet, please do. It'll make you smile for >days! > Er, I'm rather a bit worried about this. If my willy made people laugh I don't think I'd be broadcasting the fact across the internet. And as you are inviting us to see it, you've presumably mailed a scanned piccy to Paul to put in the scrapbook. This is the kind of behaviour that's getting the governments of the world to try to regulate the dodgy material on the 'net and I think you should be jolly well ashamed of yourself. > >Regards, > >Neil Leacy >IT Support (nleacy@it-excelsior.britax.co.uk) > >==================================================================== >For further information on the genitalia of our IT staff at >Britax-Excelsior visit our web pages at > > http://www.britax.co.uk/Neil's_Willy.html > >==================================================================== I have NOT visited this site, and I suggest that Alloy members (oooh er missus, pardon my French) boycot it too. S ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 08:57:18 -0500 (EST) From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Dave & Robin's Page In a message dated 11/5/97 4:00:18 AM, I wrote: <> Well, it WAS a link when I sent it through. *sigh* So much to learn, so much to learn. You'll have to type the whole thing in by hand I'm afraid. Sorry! It occured to me to add that we would prefer to have all comments on our page sent to us directly through our page, and not through Alloy, so things don't get too cluttered up here with things un-Dolby. Robin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Nov 97 01:06:52 +1000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Alloy: New additions. Hey y'all, Just a quick note, I've added Neil Leacy and Barbara Cohen to the scrapbook page, also updated a couple of comments and fixed the odd typo. Go take a squiz if you get a minute. If you get more than a minute SEND ME YOUR PHOTO! :-) cheers, Paul. [who's going to be sure to snaffle realaudio to check out the priceless snippets on Keith's page!] ________________________________________________________________________ Paul Baily paulb@thehub.com.au Consulting SE/IT Mercenary http://www.thehub.com.au/~paulb Brisbane tel: +61-7-3857-8048/+61-411-875-009 Australia dedicated to the memory of what could be. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 11:42:28 -0700 From: "Keith Stansell" Subject: Alloy: Now Playing! Crackers said: > Since the "Big Guy" himself has okayed it I also okay any not-for-profit > usage of my recording of "Nuvogue". Digitize away! It's now there. I must apologise for the flutter on the songs, part of that is my tape, part of it is just realaudio compression. >I don't remember Electrix E-mail, but he had mentioned in an e-mail to me I had it, he gave me the OK Monday Night. - -- Keith Stansell Denver ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 10:44:54 -0800 From: Frank Subject: Re: Alloy: Dave & Robin's Page At 02:16 AM 11/5/97 -0500, you wrote: >WHEW!! > >We've been working on it for three days straight to get it up & running. >Still clunky, but it's so crazy it just might work. >Please visit ht >tp://members.aol.com/DThurkirk/medicineshow.html >to preview some of Dave's artwork. (click on it! It's a link!) > >Also, in November's STRAD magazine (British violin insider mag), some >colleagues of mine (David Bonsey & Ilya Rutman) are featured in the Chamber >Music America article. The issue also features information on restoration, >and the composer/musician relationship, which many of you might find >interesting. > >Robin > Scary buildings and graveyards. Methinks I am on to something. There are only two gallery pictures available for viewing. Right? I enjoy the one about people going nowhere in particular. Dave sure has talent. Frank My Web Sites http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/6745/index.html http://members.tripod.com/~WheelerF/index.html Home (Page) Improvement!! Remember, I'm just a kid in the candy store. Little by little I'm getting there. Join me on the ride. Frank ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 10:37:57 -0800 From: Frank Subject: Re: Alloy: Fw: Attention Birthday Tape Contributors At 07:05 AM 11/5/97 GMT, you wrote: >On Tue, 4 Nov 1997 23:28:18 -0500 (EST), you wrote: > >>Has anyone ever told you that you look a bit like "Sweet 'Ums"? > >Sweet 'Ums? Burl Ives? What is this, a conspiracy??? > >// Lee Jackson (ljackson@nstar.net) >// Music and Sound Director >// Apogee Software, Ltd. & 3D Realms Entertainment > > Burl Ives had you in mind when he said, 'I'll be back!' The resemblance is uncanny. Frank says so Who says so Frank says so My Web Sites http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/6745/index.html http://members.tripod.com/~WheelerF/index.html Home (Page) Improvement!! Remember, I'm just a kid in the candy store. Little by little I'm getting there. Join me on the ride. Frank ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:21:05 -0700 From: "Keith Stansell" Subject: Alloy: Re: Now Playing! Just a reminder - all this is available at: http://www.concentric.net/~kasman/aambc.html - ---------- > > Since the "Big Guy" himself has okayed it I also okay any not-for-profit > > usage of my recording of "Nuvogue". Digitize away! > > > It's now there. > > Keith Stansell > Denver > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 14:44:02 -0500 From: Melissa Jordan Subject: Alloy: Crackers and Tom Waits I love Crackers' interpretation of "Nuvogue!" As they would write in "Spy," separated at birth? Man, Crackers - if Tom Waits wanted to do an Elvis and take a few years off to farm beans or fly around with space aliens (as I believe he is doing, by god), you could cover for him, man. What a trip from hell! Thanks, Keith, for making this available to us non-musical non-contributors. Way cool. Cheers, Melissa Melissa R. Jordan Special Projects Manager International Programs Office Goodwill Industries International, Inc. (301) 881-6858, ext. 4567 (301) 881-9435 (fax) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 16:09:20 -0800 From: Frank Subject: Re: Alloy: Re: Now Playing! At 12:21 PM 11/5/97 -0700, you wrote: >Just a reminder - all this is available at: > >http://www.concentric.net/~kasman/aambc.html > >---------- >> > Since the "Big Guy" himself has okayed it I also okay any >not-for-profit >> > usage of my recording of "Nuvogue". Digitize away! >> >> >> It's now there. >> >> Keith Stansell >> Denver >> > I am still recoiling. Crackers does have a way with a song. Yup. Frank My Web Sites http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/6745/index.html http://members.tripod.com/~WheelerF/index.html Home (Page) Improvement!! Remember, I'm just a kid in the candy store. Little by little I'm getting there. Join me on the ride. Frank ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 17:17:10 -0800 (PST) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Re: Alloy: Toiletries & gnomes Awright -- consider me part of the 'initiated', as I blew Coca-Cola out my nose upon reading this. I have joined the ranks of the people whose laughter could not be contained while reading one of Slarv's posts! Btw, that hurts. (the Coca-Cola part) - -- Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) > Unfortunatley the giant Santa has sprung a leak every year he's been > erected, so they have to get the giant puncture repair kit out and then pump > the flaccid chap back up again. I think the record for the first puncture > of the festive season has been about two hours. I'm sure I've got a scanned > image of the old chap somewhere at work, but I'm mailing this from home so I > can't attach it now, but I'll bung it out if I can find it when I get in > tomorrow. Can you contain your excitement? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 21:48:20 -0700 From: "Keith Stansell" Subject: Alloy: Re: Attn Braeda Ms Sakamoto That goes to Barbara Cohen also: - ---------- > I noticed your songs didn't make it to the tape. > I would like to feature them on my On-line Aliens music page. You can > either - > > 1. Make a .wav or .au file of the song and E-mail it TO ME (not Alloy). > Write me first and let me know if you are going to do this, and the size of > the file so I will be ready for it. > > or > > 2. Write me and I will tell you where to send the tape. > > This goes for any one else who has a contribution that didn't make it to > the tape. > > Sincerely, > > Keith Stansell > > Denver ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 01:25:42 -0400 From: "J. Kevin Wells" Subject: Alloy: TMDR and Weird Al Yankovic I was going through some back issues of the digest and noticed some talk about Weird Al Yankovic and TMDR, but I didn't see any mention of the WAY's "actual" TMDR parody. Besides his "straight-on" song parodies, like "Eat It" and "Like A Surgeon", WAY also does artist parodies - songs that are not parodies of other songs, but an original song that's a parody of an artist's style - like "Velvet Elvis" (The Police/Sting), "Dare To Be Stupid" (Devo) and "The Good Old Days" (James Taylor). WAY's TMDR parody is called "Slime Creatures From Outer Space" and is on his 1985 "Dare To Be Stupid Album". The song is similar in style to "Hyperactive!" - even has that patented Dolby "aaaaaaAAAAAAHHHHHH", if I remember correctly. - -- ^ ` ` "I am Ohm of Borg. Resistance is _ ` ` _ voltage divided by electric current." " ` ` " " " " ` .` `. ` " J. Kevin Wells - CrowTRbt@atcon.com " `` _ _ `` " or - Kevin@CanadaMail.com ` ` ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 01:07:54 -0500 (EST) From: crackers@hwcn.org Subject: Alloy: DPC: Deviant So cuddle up with the farm animal of your dreams and sing... - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --Deviant-- One more young pervert tied up in the night Slathered in yogurt with a gerbil crammed in tight Hold it (hold it) Now wiggle it (wiggle it) You can spank my monkey. Spank my monkey! Tiny but erect. (My monkey) In a palm that's slippery. (My monkey) A dominatix' pet In ecstatic misery (My monkey) Is an iron shaft (My monkey) In a butt full of vaseline (My monkey) Nothing can be too obscene. (My monkey) I too become a deviant. Yeah... became a deviant. Pouring the plaster it ran down my thigh Tied up with leather and suspended high Clamp it (clamp it) Now tickle it (tickle it) Go down on my love pump. On my love pump. Squeeze your hands like a press (My love pump) And apply lots of lubricant (My love pump) Sit on my face (My love pump) I too became a deviant. (My love pump) Tiny but erect (My love pump) In a palm that's slippery (My love pump) A dominatrix' pet She'll torture it with ecstasy (My love pump) Is an iron shaft (My love pump) In a butt full of vaseline (My love pump) Nothing can be too obscene (My love pump) I too become a deviant. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- CRACKERS (Deviants from hell!!!!!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 01:07:51 -0500 (EST) From: crackers@hwcn.org Subject: Re: Alloy: Graveyard..? In article <167e0465.345f4d90@aol.com>, you wrote: >Why is Robin posing in a graveyard? ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ Sit on my grave and tell me that you love me. I'll sit on your grave and tell you I love you too. Please strike a sexy pose While I just decompose. So sit on my grave and say you love me too. CRACKERS (I still want that corsette from hell!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 01:07:53 -0500 (EST) From: crackers@hwcn.org Subject: Re: Alloy: Catching up again... In article <799@britax.win-uk.net>, you wrote: >BTW - If its any help I've got a copy of Storyboard Plus which came out >just before storyboard live but does still allow for still image capture. >Would you like me to make you a copy as IBM seem to have washed their >hands of it? ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ WOOHOO!!!! If this puppy works I'll have your baby! Yes, I'd like a copy very much please. You wouldn't believe all ordeal I have to go through now to digitize an image. The software I've got with the digitizer is very very basic. It'll capture 640x400x16, but only in it's own special format (which nothing else will load). Then to make matters worse... the software is so old it will only work on an 8088 with 640K or less. So I have to digitize it on an old PC. Of course, the image file is useless because the programme that displays it will only run on an 8088 with 640K or less. Well I've found a programme that will screen capture the displayed image... but only in 320x200. To make matters worse, it saves it as a 640x480 image that has every even line compressed as an image on the top of the screen and every odd line compressed as an image on the bottom. Plus the bottom image is broken in half with the left on the right and the right on the left. I have to expand both images, cut and paste the bottom images into their proper order, then remove every second line from both images and finally re-intigrate both images together for a 320x200 image. And if that wasn't enough. My 8088 only has a 5.25" drive and my 486 only has a 3.5" drive. So I have to take the disk from the 8088 upstairs to my wife's computer (which has both drives) to copy it to a 3.5" so I can then do all this work on my machine. So needless to say, I'd be very greatful for a programme that would let me use this digitizer on my 486! ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ >Trouble is I don't think the guy next to me had seen the same film and >wasn't too amused to be sttod next to this giggling idiot exposing >himself! ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ Reminds me of a time I rode the subway in Toronto. CRACKERS (Peek-a-boo from hell!!!!!!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 01:07:56 -0500 (EST) From: crackers@hwcn.org Subject: Re: Alloy: Useless Trivia In article <2.2.16.19971105010213.216f5158@mail>, you wrote: >that I'm not an officianado ..... oh bugger, I'm rambling again. It's that >mental picture of Robin in the graveyard that keeps breaking my ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ Has anyone else noticed how frequently refferences to buggery and Robin have been appearing within two sentances of each other. Must be some sort of cosmic sign. CRACKERS (The end is near from hell!!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 01:07:58 -0500 (EST) From: crackers@hwcn.org Subject: Re: Alloy: Crackers and Tom Waits In article <3.0.2.32.19971105144402.007f8b00@goodwill.org>, you wrote: >I love Crackers' interpretation of "Nuvogue!" > >As they would write in "Spy," separated at birth? Man, Crackers - if Tom >Waits wanted to do an Elvis and take a few years off to farm beans or fly >around with space aliens (as I believe he is doing, by god), you could >cover for him, man. What a trip from hell! ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ Thanks! I love Tom Waits stuff. When I perform "Nuvogue" live, I get a lot of people asking me afterwards "You meant that was a Tom Waits song, not a Thomas Dolby song... right?" Which, of course, gives me a perfect opportunity to educate another person on all things Dolby. CRACKERS (Taking it to the street from hell!!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V2 #242 ***************************