From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V2 #132 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Thursday, July 10 1997 Volume 02 : Number 132 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: Whoa, what a backlog. [crackers@hwcn.org] Re: Alloy: Whoa, what a backlog. [Beth Meyer ] Re: Alloy: Catching Up Again [crackers@hwcn.org] Re: Alloy: Catching Up Again ["Melissa R. Jordan" ] Re: Alloy: Catching Up Again [Brian Clayton ] Alloy: Yet another useless bit of information [Elaine Linstruth ] Re: Alloy: Catching Up Again ["Melissa R. Jordan" ] Re: Alloy: TMDR B-Day song idea [Brian Clayton ] Re: Alloy: Catching Up Again [j ] Re: Alloy: Live Aid [Robyn Moore ] Re: Alloy: Project B-Day, B-Side Messages [Robyn Moore ] Re: Alloy: Project B-day "Dibbs" [Robyn Moore ] Alloy: Super Chicken [Thomas Slack ] Re: Alloy: A very special day [Robyn Moore ] Re: Alloy: Dolby Influences The Daily Show [Robyn Moore ] Alloy: Crackers' Cartoon Funhouse (nihongo no tegami desu) [crackers@hwcn] Alloy: Re: Herc [Keith Dawe ] Re: Alloy: Catching Up Again [Elaine Linstruth ] Alloy: Fiorella Terenzi [bcohen@LPL.Arizona.EDU (Barbara A Cohen via apoc] Alloy: Ponder this [avatar7@juno.com (Yourname Here)] Re: Alloy: Catching Up Again [avatar7@juno.com (Yourname Here)] Re: Alloy: Catching Up Again [avatar7@juno.com (Yourname Here)] Alloy: Re: FES chat [p.louie1@genie.com] Alloy: Beatnik & RMF [Elaine Linstruth ] Re: Alloy: Fiorella Terenzi [Elaine Linstruth ] Alloy: MSNBC [Elaine Linstruth ] Alloy: Project B-Day: J-Card Artwork etc. [crackers@hwcn.org] Re: Alloy: Re: FES chat [crackers@hwcn.org] Re: Alloy: Fiorella Terenzi [crackers@hwcn.org] Re: Alloy: A very special day [crackers@hwcn.org] Re: Alloy: Project B-Day, B-Side Messages [crackers@hwcn.org] Re: Alloy: Catching Up Again [Ian ] Re: Alloy: music humor/rock 'n roll accordion [Ian ] Re: Alloy: Re: Herc [Ian ] Re: Alloy: Ponder this [Ian ] Re: Alloy: Re: FES chat [Ian ] Re: Alloy: Fiorella Terenzi [Ian ] Re: Alloy: Project B-Day, B-Side Messages [Ian , you wrote: >I saw Otaku No Video a year or so ago...that was quite a piece of work. ::grin:: ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ "Otaku No Bideo" is well done, especially the animated features. But wait until you see a documentary that covers Japan's "Bondage Otakus". ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ > I've seen a few episodes of Samurai Pizza Cats...interesting. I wonder if > they're as strange in Japanese as they are in American. ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ I have all the episodes shown in Canada on tape. I just love it. A cartoon with a bisexual transvestite as the lead villan. "Oh Jerry, I just love it when you talk like that. It reminds me of my father. I just want to give you a big kiss." "Knock it off Cheesie, we're supposed to be bad guys." Incidently, Melissa's boss is mentioned in that cartoon. Big Cheese: I've just come to the realization that you need to be an actor to get real political power. Like that guy who's the mayor of Palm Springs, or Ronald Regan, or that bartender from "Love Boat" who became a senator. Jerry Atrik: I don't think he was the bartender, he was one of the other guys. And besides he wasn't a senator, he's a congressman. Big Cheese: Details, details, what does it matter. Jerry Atrik: Hey, when you're as big a "Love Boat" fan as I am these things are important. The Japanese version (Ninja Legend Cats) isn't as campy as the North American version. But many SPC fans preffer the N.A. version over the Japanese one. CRACKERS (Polly Ester fan from hell!!!!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 13:41:42 -0400 From: Beth Meyer Subject: Re: Alloy: Whoa, what a backlog. Hi, folks; >That and "Hercules" used to be my favorite cartoons when I was a kid. > >Although was I alone in my desire to slap Newton silly? I think not. You were definitely not the only one parked in front of the TV on Saturday morning watching "Hercules." In fact, that reminds me of a little incident... A few years ago, I was taking a seminar in human motor control (too bad I didn't acquire any as part of the course). One day, for some reason, we started talking about how well people can remember music. To illustrate the point, I spontaneously started singing the theme song from "Hercules" ("Hercules, hero of song and story, Hercules, winner of fame and glory..."), having not seen the cartoon for some 20 years. One of my classmates who was Japanese burst out, "Hey, we had that cartoon in Japan!" Different words, but same tune. We thought that was pretty cool. Oh, well, back to our regularly scheduled programming (whatever that is)... Beth - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Beth Meyer School of Psychology Pager: +1-404-866-1362 Georgia Institute of Technology FAX: +1-404-894-8905 Atlanta, GA 30332-0170 bmeyer@psy.tfe.gatech.edu http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gt9020a/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:47:36 -0400 (EDT) From: crackers@hwcn.org Subject: Re: Alloy: Catching Up Again In article <04000841312272@goodwill.org>, you wrote: >beautiful Spokane this weekend (Goodwill conference - all the Russians will >be there! Oy vey!) ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ "... and all the Russians look the same." ;) CRACKERS (Mondegreen from hell!!!!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 15:28:53 -0400 From: "Melissa R. Jordan" Subject: Re: Alloy: Catching Up Again > >"... and all the Russians look the same." ;) Ah, Crackers - I *still* sing it that way in my head! And I'm going to sing something for the b-day gift. Still mulling over my choices for which song to brutalize... Cheers, Melissa - ----------------------------------------- Melissa R. Jordan Remember The Women Pilots of WWII: Special International Projects Manager http://www.infinet.com/~iwasm/wasp.htm Goodwill Industries International, Inc. - ----------------------------------------- (301) 881-6858 (direct phone) (301) 881-9435 (fax) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:47:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Clayton Subject: Re: Alloy: Catching Up Again On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, Melissa R. Jordan wrote: > >"... and all the Russians look the same." ;) Aagh, a pun! > Ah, Crackers - I *still* sing it that way in my head! Oh, a montegreen? > And I'm going to sing something for the b-day gift. Still mulling over my > choices for which song to brutalize... For brutality, an obvious choice would be "Cruel." Hey, it's a duet: we can brutalize it together! :) BC - --- Brian Clayton "The main motive for going beyond the Rim... stemish@kumr.lns.com there's a heck of a big Taco Bell out there..." -- J. Michael Straczynski ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:49:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Alloy: Yet another useless bit of information I just thought I'd share this with y'all: I went to Santa Barbara this past weekend. As I'm located near L.A., this involved running both up and down the 101. While on the road, I saw a shiny, very expensive (and very phallic looking) bright red Ferrari. It did not appear to have bright pink leather interior, though. - -- Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:54:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Re: Alloy: Whoa, what a backlog. Where do you guys find this stuff, anyway? And should we be worried about you? - -- Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) > The Japanese version (Ninja Legend Cats) isn't as campy as the North American > version. But many SPC fans preffer the N.A. version over the Japanese one. > > CRACKERS > (Polly Ester fan from hell!!!!!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 16:02:54 -0400 From: "Melissa R. Jordan" Subject: Re: Alloy: Catching Up Again At 12:47 PM 7/9/97 -0700, Brian wrote: (after I wrote): >> And I'm going to sing something for the b-day gift. Still mulling over my >> choices for which song to brutalize... > >For brutality, an obvious choice would be "Cruel." > >Hey, it's a duet: we can brutalize it together! :) Ooh, now that would be quite something, especially as we are about 3,000 miles apart. Isn't that how Dead Can Dance works? Hey, I'm game. (Well... after Tashkent... game-y, too.) Cheers, M. - ----------------------------------------- Melissa R. Jordan Remember The Women Pilots of WWII: Special International Projects Manager http://www.infinet.com/~iwasm/wasp.htm Goodwill Industries International, Inc. - ----------------------------------------- (301) 881-6858 (direct phone) (301) 881-9435 (fax) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 13:07:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Clayton Subject: Re: Alloy: TMDR B-Day song idea > >Use one of the songs that is being contributed to the tape as > >background music. And then each one of us non-musicians can say a > >short message such as "Hi I'm Keith from White City. I'd just like > >to say Happy Birthday Thomas" (or something like that). The chosen > >song should be quite long such as The Flat Earth so that we can fit > >as many people as possible. Think of it maybe as a rap song... :) > > > >What do y'all think? Perhaps a little musical loop could be whipped together with Beatnik (a la the RMF version of The Flat Earth) for this purpose? BC - --- Brian Clayton "The main motive for going beyond the Rim... stemish@kumr.lns.com there's a heck of a big Taco Bell out there..." -- J. Michael Straczynski ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 15:07:46 -0500 (EST) From: j Subject: Re: Alloy: Catching Up Again On Wed, 9 Jul 1997 crackers@hwcn.org wrote: > >beautiful Spokane this weekend (Goodwill conference - all the Russians will > >be there! Oy vey!) > ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ hmm. i've been listening to TMDR since 1982, and i joined this list a few days ago to find out: 1. what the deal is with this new 13 track dolby compilation; 2. to find out if any of the extended remixes from the old harvest ep have ever been released on cd, or if i'll just have to burn them onto a cd myself. however, i seem to have stepped into someone's email living-room (babies, weekend adventures, etc.) could someone please advise me about the above two questions? i'll gladly remove myself from your living room after that. thanks - _____________________ jwgrote@indiana.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 15:02:48 -0700 From: Robyn Moore Subject: Re: Alloy: Live Aid At 14.52 97.06.30 -0700, you wrote: > >Last week some friends and I watched a tape of the 1985 concert >"Live Aid"--remember that? David Bowie did some "Lets Dance"-era >stuff with a huge backup band and two really outrageous backup >singers. Near the end, he introduced everyone, and said that on >the keyboards was the amazing Thomas Dolby! Well, we hadn't >even noticed a keyboard, and then even while actively looking for >one, the backup singers were always in the way! I have a pretty >poor 3rd generation VHS copy, but I'd be glad to share it... >There's also some other interesting stuff --like the Led Zeppelin >"reunion" featuring Phil Collins and 3 slow guys, and a really >great performance by Sting doing old Police stuff with just >him, his guitar, and Branford Marsalis on sax... > I've been wanting to see that for a while...along with the keyboardist jam on one of the Grammy broadcasts in the early 80's. I have managed to see his performance in The Wall-Live in Berlin, which was interesting, even if he was in costume. :) > >Re: Dr. Who: Wow, my favorite doctor is also a toss-up between >Tom Baker and Sylvester McCoy and I thought the movie was okay but >could've been better :) Tom was my 1st doctor but I really love >McCoy. Incidentally, I've never seen any Jon Pertwee episodes. >Apparently no PBS I've seen has run them. I can't stand Colin Baker. :) > Colin Baker is pretty far up there on the 'most hated Doctor' list from what I've seen on the rec.arts.Dr-Who newsgroup, but considering that his regeneration was supposedly unstable, I think he did okay with what he had to work with. Robyn @ Robyn Moore @ http://www.alveus.com/kbrm/robyn.html @ You knew the job was dangerous when you took it. - S.C. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 15:23:01 -0700 From: Robyn Moore Subject: Re: Alloy: Project B-Day, B-Side Messages At 12.49 97.07.02 -0400, you wrote: > >But if everyone who is going to contribute a message can just post a note >to this thread saying "I'll send in a message" then we can add them all up >and get a rough idea how long maximum each of our recorded messages can be. > Count me in. Like a few others here, I despise the sound of my voice, but I think I can cope with listening to it for a few seconds for a project like this. :) Robyn @ Robyn Moore @ http://www.alveus.com/kbrm/robyn.html @ You knew the job was dangerous when you took it. - S.C. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 15:26:21 -0700 From: Robyn Moore Subject: Re: Alloy: Project B-day "Dibbs" At 00.10 97.07.03 -0700, you wrote: >On Wed, 2 Jul 1997 crackers@hwcn.org wrote: >> Send in those dibbs folks! >> >> CRACKERS >> (Taking shape from hell!!!) > >Does anybody else besides me hit the space bar on Crackers' messages, >specifically so as not to miss what the "from hell" message is? :-) Yes. In my case, it's scroll down, but for the same reason. :) Robyn @ Robyn Moore @ http://www.alveus.com/kbrm/robyn.html @ You knew the job was dangerous when you took it. - S.C. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 17:23:42 +0400 (EDT) From: Thomas Slack Subject: Alloy: Super Chicken Charles Kemp Wrote: >Big deal, so there are other Anime and etc fans on the list. Now a >fellow Super Chicken fan, now THAT is a rarity. > >With George of the Jungle being released on my b-day, I'm having a lot of >flashbacks right now to sitting in front of the tube watching George and >Super Chicken, since they were staples on the local independant station. > >Oh, and plenty of Tom Slick, too! Absolutely! Saturday morning staples at this lad's house. Not only was Super Chicken from Pittsburgh (my home town), but Tom Slick became my alter-ego (for obvious reasons). I used to sign letters with the insignia from his hat (TS with a circle around it). With programming like this, it's no wonder we turned out to be strange adults! (Oops, guess I should speak for myself). Just realized that I use way too many parentheses. Thanks for the flashback. Tom Slack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 15:46:26 -0700 From: Robyn Moore Subject: Re: Alloy: A very special day At 17.31 97.07.05 -0400, you wrote: >This is a bit premature but I wanted to give everyone >plenty of time to send their best wishes, taking into >consideration the time differences. > >Twenty eight years ago on July 7, a wonderful boy >was born in Wellington, NZ who grew up to be the >creator of Alloy. I'm sure that everyone on the >list is very grateful that you arrived that day, Paul. >We love you and hope you have the happiest of birthdays! This is what I get for being behind on my mail. Happy belated birthday, Paul...and may you have many, many more. :) Robyn @ Robyn Moore @ http://www.alveus.com/kbrm/robyn.html @ You knew the job was dangerous when you took it. - S.C. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 15:44:02 -0700 From: Robyn Moore Subject: Re: Alloy: Dolby Influences The Daily Show At 11.04 97.07.04 -0400, you wrote: >Hey, there! > >Don't know if anyone else out there in No. America is addicted to The Daily >Show on Comedy Central, but there was a Dolby reference in the "This Just >In" section of the show last night (it may have been a rerun - I missed the >topical headlines, and I *have* been out of it for a while...) First, for >those who aren't familiar, The Daily Show is a half-hour comedy show, >Monday-Thursday on the cable network Comedy Central. The Daily Show skewers >the top stories of the day with (usually) hysterical accuracy. They pepper >the show with "breaking news" - last night's bulletin was about the German >government's battle to rid their country of Scientologists - the opening - >"She Blinded Me With Scientology!" It got a smile out of me. Y'know, I think I saw that one too. :) I don't remember it being Thursday, so you're probably right in thinking it's a rerun. Robyn @ Robyn Moore @ http://www.alveus.com/kbrm/robyn.html @ You knew the job was dangerous when you took it. - S.C. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 18:47:15 -0400 (EDT) From: crackers@hwcn.org Subject: Alloy: Crackers' Cartoon Funhouse (nihongo no tegami desu) In article <3.0.32.19970709134032.006fd534@pop.prism.gatech.edu>, you wrote: >the point, I spontaneously started singing the theme song from "Hercules" >("Hercules, hero of song and story, Hercules, winner of fame and >glory..."), having not seen the cartoon for some 20 years. One of my >classmates who was Japanese burst out, "Hey, we had that cartoon in Japan!" > Different words, but same tune. We thought that was pretty cool. ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ I wonder if it went anything like... Huukurisu San! Uta to monogatari no shujinkou desu. Huukurisu San! Meisei to eikou no shourisha desu. Yuotoku no tame ni tatakatte imasu. Chikara de tatakatte imasu. Juunin no chikara ga arimasu. Huukurisu San! Toki chikaku de, hitobito wa kinko desu. Huukurisu San! Dake ja akuna hito wa Huukuri San o osoremasu. Shinsetsu wa me ni desu. Tetsu wa futomomo ni desu. Shouri wa chikaku de desu. Huukurisu San no soba ni kansei o okurimasu. Hmmmm.... given the way that scans, I think not. Although it is interesting when translated back into english. Hercules! Song and story's hero. Hercules! Fame and fortune's winner. Fighting for the purpose of virtue. Fighting with strength. He has 10 person's strength. Hercules! When near, people are safe. Hercules! Only evil people fear Hercules. Kindness is in his eyes. Iron is in his thighs. Beside Hercules shout encouragement. ...hmmmm isn't there something more productive I could be doing with my time? CRACKERS (Mr. Sparkle will banish dirt to the land of ghosts and demons form hell!!!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:17:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Keith Dawe Subject: Alloy: Re: Herc > In article <199707072332.QAA01719@netcom15.netcom.com>, you wrote: > > >Big deal, so there are other Anime and etc fans on the list. Now a > >fellow Super Chicken fan, now THAT is a rarity. > > That and "Hercules" used to be my favorite cartoons when I was a kid. Oh god, no! "Put on your ring, Herc! Put on your ring!" or something to that effect. > And "Hercules" was my first exposure to S&M sex. Remember that episode > where he caught Wilimina and instead of carting her off to Mount Olympis > at the end, he put her over his knee and gave her a good spanking instead Ah ha! I knew there had to be a bad influence on my life somewhere! ;-) - --Omega - ------------------------------------------------------- omega@torfree.net Head of Dealer's Room -- ANIME NORTH Toronto's FIRST anime convention -- Sat. August 9, 1997 - ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 17:20:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Re: Alloy: Catching Up Again We don't just talk about things strictly Dolby -- we are friends. So sue us! You joined this list under false pretenses! Demand your money back! - -- Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, j wrote: > hmm. i've been listening to TMDR since 1982, and i joined this list > a few days ago to find out: > > 1. what the deal is with this new 13 track dolby compilation; > 2. to find out if any of the extended remixes from the old harvest ep > have ever been released on cd, or if i'll just have to burn them onto a > cd myself. > > however, i seem to have stepped into someone's email living-room (babies, > weekend adventures, etc.) could someone please advise me about the above > two questions? i'll gladly remove myself from your living room after that. > > thanks - > > _____________________ > jwgrote@indiana.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 20:02:02 -0700 From: bcohen@LPL.Arizona.EDU (Barbara A Cohen via apocalypse ) Subject: Alloy: Fiorella Terenzi Does anyone watch that Fox show "Strange Universe"? They did about 5 minutes last night with Dr. Terenzi and how she "jams with the cosmos" (her words). It was actually quite interesting, except fully half the video was of her breasts in one of her stage shows (production value, I suppose). They also showed her in a performance with Timothy Leary. I have it on video, if anyone's interested. *B* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 23:53:17 EDT From: avatar7@juno.com (Yourname Here) Subject: Alloy: Ponder this Just a thought... Well, we all know that TMDR knows what the formula is to write a hit single, right? Wouldn't it be interesting if he pulled another "Science" right now, just for fun? It would put him back in the spotlight(that of the public we all love so much)...get clubs drooling over his very rare and carefully chosen performances... I'd be all for it, as long as he was too. Monya ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 01:17:19 EDT From: avatar7@juno.com (Yourname Here) Subject: Re: Alloy: Catching Up Again If the distance thing doesn't work out, I'll step in as a substitute.:) Or is there someone out there with a rapper just waiting to burst out of him that wants to take a stab at N.E.O.?? Monya >> >>For brutality, an obvious choice would be "Cruel." >> >>Hey, it's a duet: we can brutalize it together! :) > >Ooh, now that would be quite something, especially as we are about >3,000 >miles apart. Isn't that how Dead Can Dance works? > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 01:17:19 EDT From: avatar7@juno.com (Yourname Here) Subject: Re: Alloy: Catching Up Again wait, WAIT, you're an IU student (I almost was too). Please tell us about yourself. Monya >hmm. i've been listening to TMDR since 1982, and i joined this list >a few days ago to find out: > >1. what the deal is with this new 13 track dolby compilation; do you mean Retrospectacle, the greatest hits, or something WE haven't heard about?? >2. to find out if any of the extended remixes from the old harvest ep >have ever been released on cd, or if i'll just have to burn them onto >a >cd myself. > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 97 07:19:00 GMT From: p.louie1@genie.com Subject: Alloy: Re: FES chat Wow! So Thomas has come out of lurkdom. It's always great to hear from him here on Alloy. > But I've got some interesting other new ideas in the works, > including my serialized memoirs (no kidding!) and some brand-new, > unheard previously music--ie 'real' songs. Now this is what I've been waiting for! Several other musicians that I like are finally opening up their vaults, dusting off their tapes and releasing some of their unreleased material. I'm glad TMDR is following this trend. Knowing how experimental he is, I bet this unreleased material will be even more interesting! The memoirs will be interesting too. Maybe we can finally read about the true stories behind his songs and his fascination with Vaseline. :) I'm hoping the memoirs will be in paper print and the unreleased songs on CD as not everyone has a CD-Recorder or is patient enough (at least not me) to print out a bazillion pages on my printer. Anyway, nice to see the TMDR has time to post here. Phil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 09:58:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Alloy: Beatnik & RMF We installed Win95 last night. (Death march music playing in the background.) We knew the day would come when we'd have to succumb, but that doesn't make it any easier. The friggin whole thing was a mess when we gave up at 1 AM & went to bed - -- at 9 AM when I sat down to mess with it some more, it worked. Bloody hell. Guess it just needed a good night's sleep. (more grumbling about Microsoft..) That, and Netscrape crashed twice, but that's another story, too. Anyway, the GOOD news is that we downloaded Beatnik (and saw why everybody was wanking about its size...but that's ok), and BOY! How cool!! So far, we've just played around with the walk-through, but you can do cool stuff like change the tempo of the music, change whatever instrument you'd like, change what KEY the whole piece is in! I was tres impressed. All without using our MIDI card and/or finding a major piece of added software, that's just bitchen. I finally heard the snippet of Algarve, too.. and I agree with you, Frank. (Now, if only all this were compatible with my beloved OS/2, I'd really be happy.) - -- Elaine Linstruth ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 10:35:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Re: Alloy: Fiorella Terenzi On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, Barbara A Cohen via apocalypse wrote: > "jams with the cosmos" (her words). It was actually quite > interesting, except fully half the video was of her breasts > in one of her stage shows (production value, I suppose). What kind of stage shows does she perform? Does she perform in the nude? I don't know anything about her, other than her web site is cheesy (she calls it her "G-spot" : G stands for galaxy.) Uh-huh! - -- Elaine Linstruth ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 10:47:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Alloy: MSNBC On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Brian Clayton wrote: > > BTW, gang, check out MSNBC's interview with TMDR...the link is on the > Headspace site. Yeah, my husband pointed this out to me independently. He seems to have taken a liking to that Soledad O'Brien chick on TheSite television show. Is Thomas' picture recent? Sporting a goatee? - -- Elaine Linstruth ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 15:53:51 -0400 (EDT) From: crackers@hwcn.org Subject: Alloy: Project B-Day: J-Card Artwork etc. Well, now that I've completed my recording part of project B-Day, I guess I'll have time to create the J-Card. So if you'd like to contribute some Dolby inspired artwork or poetry for the J-Card . Then please E-mail me your submissions directly to my E-mail Box (that way they'll be more of a suprise to Thomas and eveyone else taking part in the project). My E-mail address is.... crackers@hwcn.org Try to keep scans of your artwork small in size (remember, this is only a 4" x 2" J-card (approx) so resolution isn't all that important) so as not to "bomb" my e-mail box (I've only got a couple 100K for E-mail). I'll be taking submissions until the end of august. CRACKERS (Artsy fartsy from hell!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 15:53:47 -0400 (EDT) From: crackers@hwcn.org Subject: Re: Alloy: Re: FES chat In article <199707100929.JAA11012@rockdmz1.geis.com>, you wrote: >Wow! So Thomas has come out of lurkdom. It's always great to hear >from him here on Alloy. ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ Gee... if he lurks here then maybe there was some truth to the rumours that he also lurked on The Tap Room (RIP). Uh oh! ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ >Now this is what I've been waiting for! Several other musicians that >I like are finally opening up their vaults, dusting off their tapes >and releasing some of their unreleased material. I'm glad TMDR is >following this trend. Knowing how experimental he is, I bet this >unreleased material will be even more interesting! ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ Unless, of course, if it's all unreleased matterial performed exclusively on kazoo. Hmmmm.... I wonder if I could make a midi kazoo? ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ >I'm hoping the memoirs will be in paper print and the unreleased >songs on CD as not everyone has a CD-Recorder or is patient enough >(at least not me) to print out a bazillion pages on my printer. ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ Hey, I've got almost the entire Emeritus Professor story printed out on paper.... Speaking of which... somebody should go back into the Tap Room while it still exists and be sure to archive all those chapters. Maybe we could revive it again someday. Although it got a little too chaotic at the end. I think to save it we might have to actually scrap the last couple of chapters and do them over again (it seemed to start to go south from the moment Keith honked himself to Budapest. After that point every paragraph seemed to add a new character or plot twist or contradict a previous point). CRACKERS (The never ended story from hell!!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 15:53:46 -0400 (EDT) From: crackers@hwcn.org Subject: Re: Alloy: Fiorella Terenzi In article <199707100302.UAA15468@apocalypse.LPL.Arizona.EDU>, you wrote: >It was actually quite >interesting, except fully half the video was of her breasts >in one of her stage shows (production value, I suppose). ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ Wow! Her breasts have their own stage show!? I'm impressed. I wonder if it's too late to get a refund on my "Joseph And His Technicolour Dreamcoat" tickets. CRACKERS (She lactated me with science from hell!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 15:53:52 -0400 (EDT) From: crackers@hwcn.org Subject: Re: Alloy: A very special day Happy birthday to you. From the whole Alloy crew. Happy birthday dear Pauuuuuul. Have a Slurpee and Bun-Fu. CRACKERS (Miss Sakamoto flavoured from hell!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 15:53:50 -0400 (EDT) From: crackers@hwcn.org Subject: Re: Alloy: Project B-Day, B-Side Messages After doing some experiments with sequenced loops and voice overs I've come to the conclusion that it would probably be best to use a subdued mix of actual Dolby material (lively songs like She Blinded Me With Science, Hyperactive, and Europa etc.) with each of our birthday greetings recorded over top of them. The sequenced loops just lacked "oomph". But when I tried it over some actual Dolby, it sounded better. So if there's no objections I think Ian should just put together the B-Side messages like that. CRACKERS (Out of the loop from hell!!!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 17:22:22 -0400 From: Ian Subject: Re: Alloy: Catching Up Again Frank wrote: > > How do I find this magazine? Is it against all rules and regulations to put > a reprint of the article for just Alloy consumption? Just thought I'd ask. > Frank Wheeler > > > >I finally found a copy of the EQ magazine with Our Fearless Leader featured > >so prominently. Cool interview and cool pics. > > Frank, it's not as hard to find as most may believe. You can find it in most magazine shops and the odd 7-11 store (just look for the big yellow "EQ" my school gets them by the box-load so if I can rescue a few fro y'all I will post it and send them off to whoever's interested----but I can't guarantee that they have any left! (EQ is the "monthly new testament" for my type! It's especially great if you are a "gear-pig" or a wannabe "gear-pig". ;^) - -- - ---Ian Gifford (flirp/folkie) mailto:giffordstrasser@oiart.org =^.^= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 17:52:32 -0400 From: Ian Subject: Re: Alloy: music humor/rock 'n roll accordion crackers@hwcn.org wrote: > > In article <3.0.2.32.19970707165043.00a55720@iefxmail.iefx.com>, you wrote: > > > Ooo...the Crackers World Tour...be sure to put Portland, Oregon on that list. ::grin:: > ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ > > Speaking of which... I've finished recording "Nuvogue" for the Project B-Day. > Now just to work on the background loop for the messages part (unless somebody > else would rather do that). Not me man! I've had enough looping for one summer! It's fun but tedious at times (when are they going to invent the uncrashable computer system?). I also just spent 15 hours or so (6pm till 9:30am) last night recording parts for "my brain is...". By 5:00am (after 3 cups of coffee two cans of coke and a granola bar) I was pretty wired and trying to put a bass part on tape but my D.I. setup was picking up "soft hits radio 98" and so Thomas' gift from me now also has "Borderline" by Mama Madonna strung through it! Now I am really gonna get sued!!! I was pretty tense!!! The vocal parts got pretty MAD!!! But hey. there's one hell of an egg shaker part at the bridge---just you wait!!! - -- - ---Ian Gifford (flirp/folkie) mailto:giffordstrasser@oiart.org =^.^= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 18:01:06 -0400 From: Ian Subject: Re: Alloy: Super Chicken While you guys are on about george of the jungle et al, I just want to know... ...has anyone ever watched the show "the Hilarious house of Frightenstein"? This is THE show I remember as a kid! Igor taught me how to dance, wolfman taught me about "Sly Stone and family" and Dr. Julius (whatever--does anyone know his last name?) taught me more scientific stuff then Beakman or Bill Nye ever could!!! - -- - ---Ian Gifford (flirp/folkie) mailto:giffordstrasser@oiart.org =^.^= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 18:08:09 -0400 From: Ian Subject: Re: Alloy: Re: Herc Keith Dawe wrote: > > > In article <199707072332.QAA01719@netcom15.netcom.com>, you wrote: > > > > >Big deal, so there are other Anime and etc fans on the list. Now a > > >fellow Super Chicken fan, now THAT is a rarity. > > > > That and "Hercules" used to be my favorite cartoons when I was a kid. > > Oh god, no! "Put on your ring, Herc! Put on your ring!" or > something to that effect. > > > And "Hercules" was my first exposure to S&M sex. Remember that episode > > where he caught Wilimina and instead of carting her off to Mount Olympis > > at the end, he put her over his knee and gave her a good spanking instead > > Ah ha! I knew there had to be a bad influence on my life > somewhere! ;-) Hey that reminds me... besides being a musician and a producer I have done standup comedy and impersonations and my best has always been of "Newton" so..... would anyone mind if I said my b-day greeting to TMDR in the voice of "Newton"? I'm sure Thomas would get a real kick out of that warbled "WHeeeeeeeee" maybe I'll find some pan-pipes and do "toot" as well (does anyone know the notation for "Happy birthday oh great leader of the FES"?) :) - -- - ---Ian Gifford (flirp/folkie) mailto:giffordstrasser@oiart.org =^.^= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 18:11:59 -0400 From: Ian Subject: Re: Alloy: Ponder this Yourname Here wrote: > > > Just a thought... > > Well, we all know that TMDR knows what the formula is to write a hit > single, right? Wouldn't it be interesting if he pulled another "Science" > right now, just for fun? It would put him back in the spotlight(that of > the public we all love so much)...get clubs drooling over his very rare > and carefully chosen performances... > I'd be all for it, as long as he was too. > > Monya Hey Thomas, If you consider this please remember that you would have about 87 or so willing back-up singers (or should I speak for myself? :) And we would probably only ask double scale!!!! What do you think? - -- - ---Ian Gifford (flirp/folkie) mailto:giffordstrasser@oiart.org =^.^= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 18:19:32 -0400 From: Ian Subject: Re: Alloy: Re: FES chat > > Unless, of course, if it's all unreleased matterial performed exclusively > on kazoo. > > Hmmmm.... I wonder if I could make a midi kazoo? > -- GO For it and when you do I'll order 10!!! What a great plan! (maybe you could sell it to AKAI sorry --- engineers joke there! :) - ---Ian Gifford (flirp/folkie) mailto:giffordstrasser@oiart.org =^.^= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 18:21:33 -0400 From: Ian Subject: Re: Alloy: Fiorella Terenzi crackers@hwcn.org wrote: > > In article <199707100302.UAA15468@apocalypse.LPL.Arizona.EDU>, you wrote: > >It was actually quite > >interesting, except fully half the video was of her breasts > >in one of her stage shows (production value, I suppose). > ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ > > Wow! Her breasts have their own stage show!? I'm impressed. I wonder if it's > too late to get a refund on my "Joseph And His Technicolour Dreamcoat" > tickets. I can see it now "Fiorella and her pantone processed petticoat" whattaya think? - -- - ---Ian Gifford (flirp/folkie) mailto:giffordstrasser@oiart.org =^.^= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 18:24:25 -0400 From: Ian Subject: Re: Alloy: Project B-Day, B-Side Messages crackers@hwcn.org wrote: > > After doing some experiments with sequenced loops and voice overs I've come > to the conclusion that it would probably be best to use a subdued mix of > actual Dolby material (lively songs like She Blinded Me With Science, > Hyperactive, and Europa etc.) with each of our birthday greetings recorded > over top of them. The sequenced loops just lacked "oomph". But when I tried > it over some actual Dolby, it sounded better. So if there's no objections > I think Ian should just put together the B-Side messages like that. It's possible! or I could always use a loop from one of the songs you guys send me!!! It's a five minute job!!! Remember to let me know if I should be expecting any snail-mail soon. 'Kay? - -- - ---Ian Gifford (flirp/folkie) mailto:giffordstrasser@oiart.org =^.^= ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V2 #132 ***************************