From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V2 #85 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Thursday, May 15 1997 Volume 02 : Number 085 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: history books [Monya De ] Re: Alloy: Urgent Burgers [Monya De ] Alloy: spice girlz [Monya De ] Re: Alloy: Urgent Burgers [Monya De ] Re: Alloy: spice girlz [Bill Hargreaves ] Re: Alloy: Urgent Burgers ["Mary A. Brown" ] Alloy: 12 Step Program of Tap Room Recovery [Sam Bailey ] Re: Alloy: history books [Monya De ] Re: Alloy: spice girlz [Monya De ] Re: Alloy: George Clinton concert ["MEYER,ANN ELIZABETH" ] Re: Alloy: A little theme music ["Mary A. Brown" ] Alloy: Tap Room update. [Paul Baily ] Re: Alloy: Tap Room update. [Russell Milliner ] Re: Alloy: spice girlz [Russell Milliner ] Re: Alloy: Tap Room update. ["Curtis C. Hovey" ] Alloy: Celebrity Slugfest [Melissa Jordan ] Re: Alloy: Tap Room update. [Elaine Linstruth ] Alloy: Well now... [Paul Baily ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 22:25:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Monya De Subject: Re: Alloy: history books OH WOW! I went to that very same museum...I remember my dad's colleauge trying to entice me to go with such entreaties as " YOu get to smell the dead fish and everything!!) I remember my brother pounded his own Viking coin, just like Prince Charles had. MD > > > I haven't seen the books, but I DID get a scratch and sniff post card at > Jorvic (the Viking museum at York) a couple of years ago. It had two s-n-s > pictures on it; the first was a Viking latrine and I can't remember what the > other one was, even though I only threw it away last week. > > The whole museum is a sniffing experience as you go on a tour back through > time to the Viking era, travel ling backwards (literally) on a small > electric golf truck type of thing, through various time periods until you > get to the life sized model of the Viking settlement, which is full of > interesting smells. > > My wife and I wanted to take the kids, but they didn't want to go, as they'd > already been with their school, so we went on our own which was probably a > more rewarding experience for us. > > BH > > **************************** Monya De Faisan 202 Stanford University Mailing: P.O. Box 13503 Stanford, CA 94309 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 22:26:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Monya De Subject: Re: Alloy: Urgent Burgers > Mary (who's damn tired of being mistaken for a Spice Girl!) Soo...tell me whatcha wantwhatcatchareallyreallywant... Monya who's wasting a lot of time tonight and despairing over the outcome of the Caroline in the City episode she just saw... > > > ________________________________________________________________________________ > Mary A. Brown, Genetic Ingenue | Department of Biochemistry > Phone: (606) 257-7039,-7349 | University of Kentucky > Fax: (606) 323-1037 | 800 Rose St. > E-mail: mabrown@pop.uky.edu | Lexington, KY 40536-0084 > > "What I used to think was me is just a fading memory/I looked them right > in the eye and said goodbye " Trent Reznor > ________________________________________________________________________________ > > **************************** Monya De Faisan 202 Stanford University Mailing: P.O. Box 13503 Stanford, CA 94309 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 22:30:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Monya De Subject: Alloy: spice girlz > > > Mary (who's damn tired of being mistaken for a Spice Girl!) > > Oh? Which one? Yeah Mary, they were named some of the 50 most beautiful people or something weren't they? > > BC > > --- > Brian Clayton "So Zathrus talk to dirt...and to walls...and > stemish@kumr.lns.com to ceiling--but dirt is closer." -- Zathrus > > > > > **************************** Monya De Faisan 202 Stanford University Mailing: P.O. Box 13503 Stanford, CA 94309 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 22:34:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Monya De Subject: Re: Alloy: Urgent Burgers On Tue, 13 May 1997, Mary A. Brown wrote: > > It will now be just a matter of time until Taco Bell follows the trend by > > purchasing the rights to "Hot Sauce" for their line of "wild" tacos and > > burritos. > What about Victoria's Secret realizing the selling power of "Silk Pyjamas" (Someone probably beat me to this anyway) Monya > Mary A. Brown, Genetic Ingenue | Department of Biochemistry > Phone: (606) 257-7039,-7349 | University of Kentucky > Fax: (606) 323-1037 | 800 Rose St. > E-mail: mabrown@pop.uky.edu | Lexington, KY 40536-0084 > > "And I wriggle like a fish caught on dry land/Struggle to avoid any helping > hand " Sting > ________________________________________________________________________________ > > **************************** Monya De Faisan 202 Stanford University Mailing: P.O. Box 13503 Stanford, CA 94309 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 08:52:27 +0100 (BST) From: Bill Hargreaves Subject: Re: Alloy: spice girlz At 22:30 13/05/97 -0700, you wrote: >> >> > Mary (who's damn tired of being mistaken for a Spice Girl!) >> > >> Oh? Which one? > > >Yeah Mary, they were named some of the 50 most beautiful people or >something weren't they? > I know that we Alloy/FES members know that beauty's more than skin deep, but in terms of an official '50 most beautiful people' award I doubt that Sporty Spice would get a look in, and Scary Spice looks a nightmare with her glasses on. In the last six months or so we seem to have been bombarded with the Spice Girls in the UK; every time I put the TV on they seem to be on one programme or another, but in the last few weeks they've been conspicuous by their absence. Surely the bubble isn't about to burst already? Bill Hargreaves I T Administrator Government Office for the North West Manchester UK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 08:52:30 +0100 (BST) From: Bill Hargreaves Subject: Re: Alloy: history books At 22:25 13/05/97 -0700, you wrote: > >OH WOW! I went to that very same museum...I remember my dad's colleauge >trying to entice me to go with such entreaties as " YOu get to smell the >dead fish and everything!!) I remember my brother pounded his own Viking >coin, just like Prince Charles had. >MD > 'Pound his own coin' sounds like a rather dodgy euphemism to me. I think 'strike' may be the right term, if not 'mint,' but I know what you mean as I remember seeing people making the coins in the gift shop on the way out and they DID have to pound the blank between two patterns with a mallet. As far as Prince Charles is concerned, he's probably still having to pound his own coin a lot since his break up with the missus. BH ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 07:13:21 -0400 (EDT) From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: history books > > > I haven't seen the books, but I DID get a scratch and sniff post card at > Jorvic (the Viking museum at York) a couple of years ago.>> If I ever go to York, I'm DEFINITELY going to this museum!! Robin :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 07:29:16 -0400 (EDT) From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: spice girlz In one of our magazines. . .the Spice Girls were interviewed. One of them was asked what she thought her worst toilet habit was, and she admitted to being the sort of vile no-lifer that urinates all over the seat in the public bathroom & doesn't even clean it up afterwards. We in the states haven't been as bombarded with Spice Girls as you in Britain have, but every time I think of them now I think of all the filthy restrooms this one girl must be leaving behind. . .it's my only knowledge of anything they do (are they a music group or something?) I hope none of you were eating when you read this Robin :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 13:11:02 +0100 (BST) From: Bill Hargreaves Subject: Re: Alloy: history books At 07:13 14/05/97 -0400, you wrote: >> I haven't seen the books, but I DID get a scratch and sniff post card at >> Jorvic (the Viking museum at York) a couple of years ago.>> > >If I ever go to York, I'm DEFINITELY going to this museum!! > >Robin :) > > If you do, go EARLY, as there are often very long queues to get in. The golf cart tour acts as a bottle-neck to slow the flow of visitors. Once you've done Jorvic there are LOTS of other interesting places in York to visit. The Castle Museum is excellent but can take a good half day to go round, if you want to have a good look at everything. (If you like the macabre you can have a lie down on the iron bed in the condemned cell of what used to be a prison.) The railway museum is supposed to be second to none, but I regret that I've never actually been there myself. Blimey, I sound like an advert for the Youkshoire Tourist Board. Perhaps I should ask them for a fee for netvertising. BH ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 13:11:05 +0100 (BST) From: Bill Hargreaves Subject: Re: Alloy: spice girlz At 07:29 14/05/97 -0400, you wrote: (are they a music group or something?) > > >Robin :) > > Yep .... well, they're a SINGING group who also dance athletically a lot (nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no more) and are nice to their mothers (allegedly). They prattle on all the time about 'Girl Power' but I'm not sure that anyone knows exactly what they mean by that. I think we may have done you a swap for No Doubt, as they've been on MTV/VH1 etc. an awful lot over here. BH ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 08:11:06 -0400 From: Beth Meyer Subject: Re: Alloy: Urgent Burgers Hi, folks; >> It will now be just a matter of time until Taco Bell follows the trend by >> purchasing the rights to "Hot Sauce" for their line of "wild" tacos and >> burritos. > >Considering it's a George Clinton tune, I wouldn't feel >so bad. Even though life has gotten even more wacky than usual (I'm now collecting data for my dissertation, which involves staying in a windowless, media-deprived lab from early in the morning until late in the evening), I couldn't let this go by without a mention -- I got to see this same Dolby collaborator in concert about a week and a half ago! Yup, George Clinton and the P-Funk all-stars played a big music festival in Atlanta on May 2. In the words of a couple of young guys near me in the crowd, "These guys ROCK!!!" It was just a huge non-stop party. Mr. Clinton really seems to be a consummate teacher as well as a cool performer in his own right. Not only did his son and daughter perform -- to an enthusiastic reception -- but he had apparently taught a balding fortysomething Italian-American roadie named Louie to rap. Quite well, I might add. Oh, well, back to the grind I go (humming "We Want the Funk")... Beth - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Beth Meyer School of Psychology Pager: +1-404-866-1362 Georgia Institute of Technology FAX: +1-404-894-8905 Atlanta, GA 30332-0170 bmeyer@psy.tfe.gatech.edu http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gt9020a/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 09:04:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mary A. Brown" Subject: Re: Alloy: Urgent Burgers Hey, Beth, > couldn't let this go by without a mention -- I got to see this same Dolby > collaborator in concert about a week and a half ago! Yup, George Clinton > and the P-Funk all-stars played a big music festival in Atlanta on May 2. > In the words of a couple of young guys near me in the crowd, "These guys > ROCK!!!" It was just a huge non-stop party. Is the guy in the diaper still with them? They even played here in Nowheresville but since I knew nothing about the venue, I didn't feel up to venturing there alone. Well, speaking as someone who spends all of her days in a windowless lab doing unpleasant things, you have my empathy. No one who hasn't gone through it quite understands the hell of grad school. You have my admiration. That's /Doctor/ Brown to you! (just kidding, of course!) ________________________________________________________________________________ Mary A. Brown, Genetic Ingenue | Department of Biochemistry Phone: (606) 257-7039,-7349 | University of Kentucky Fax: (606) 323-1037 | 800 Rose St. E-mail: mabrown@pop.uky.edu | Lexington, KY 40536-0084 "Everyone turned over troubled in their dreams again " Robert Smith ________________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 11:45:51 -0700 From: Sam Bailey Subject: Alloy: 12 Step Program of Tap Room Recovery Some of you may have already been exposed to this program. In case you haven't....now you have. 12 Step Program of Tap Rooom Recovery 1) We admitted we were powerless over the Tap Room and we could not manage it. 2) Came to believe that a power greater than our selves could restore the Tap Room. 3) Made a decision to turn our will and our Tap Room over to the care of that Higher Power (WebMatster). 4) Made a searching and fearless inventory of our Tap Room. 5) Admitted to ourselves, our Higher Power and another computer geek the exact nature of our wrong URL's and improper use of HTML. 6) Were entirely ready to have our Higher Power remove all of the inappropriate threads and out dated material. 7) Humbly asked the WebMaster to delete these threads (including "No Sex", "Electric's Flat", "I am the coolest person on Earth...", "All Threads Suck...", "Grosser than Gross", " Awesome Web Pages" and every thread not posted on in the last month....etc. 8) Made a list of all the times we had lurked with out posting and became willing to post each time we entered the Tap Room. 9) Made direct amends to all persons who's conversations we had lurked upon, except when to do so would injure them or others. 10) Continued to inventory our Tap Room and when someone else was wrong we were quick to point out the error in their ways. 11) Sought through prayer , meditation and E-mail to improve our conscious contact with our Higher Power asking only for the re-instatement of our Tap Room and the server speed to keep running. 12) Having had the Tap Room re-instated as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to all Flat Earth Society members and to practice these principals in all of our postings. Still Jones'n for another fix of the Tap Room...... Sambone ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 12:11:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Re: Alloy: spice girlz > At 07:29 14/05/97 -0400, Robin wrote: > (are they a music group or something?) They're almost an all-woman Menudo for the 90's. I have no idea whether or not they have any true talent. It's like 6 Downtown Julie Browns. Or maybe 5, I'm not keeping up. If you in the UK are being force-fed the Spice Girls, our current mania seems to be surrounding these three brothers from Tulsa, OK.. the Hanson brothers. If I see or hear their song one more time I might get sick. Their album is supposedly set to be released in Europe soon, so I suggest you get your airsickness bags ready in advance! - -- Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 12:41:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Monya De Subject: Re: Alloy: history books > At 07:13 14/05/97 -0400, you wrote: > >> I haven't seen the books, but I DID get a scratch and sniff post card at > >> Jorvic (the Viking museum at York) a couple of years ago.>> > > > >If I ever go to York, I'm DEFINITELY going to this museum!! > > > >Robin :) > > And make sure you walk along the walls and pretend you're ready to shoot intruders below... > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 12:46:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Monya De Subject: Re: Alloy: spice girlz On Wed, 14 May 1997, Elaine Linstruth wrote: > > > At 07:29 14/05/97 -0400, Robin wrote: > > (are they a music group or something?) > > They're almost an all-woman Menudo for the 90's. I have no idea whether > or not they have any true talent. It's like 6 Downtown Julie Browns. Or > maybe 5, I'm not keeping up. > The scariest part is that an a cappella group 3 of my friends are in are attempting to do Wannabe for their spring show. MD ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 16:29:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "MEYER,ANN ELIZABETH" Subject: Re: Alloy: George Clinton concert Hi, Dr. Brown ;-) et al; > > collaborator in concert about a week and a half ago! Yup, George Clinton > > and the P-Funk all-stars played a big music festival in Atlanta on May 2. > > Is the guy in the diaper still with them? Yup. And it's still cloth, not even one of those nice tailored Huggies for Boys (or Pull-Ups). I have to admit, I was tempted to yell out a quote from a recent commercial, "He's got a saggy diaper that LEAKS!" But of course, to be honest, I don't think he ever actually *tested* it... They even played > here in Nowheresville but since I knew nothing about the > venue, I didn't feel up to venturing there alone. Well, of course, music festivals are a different animal. But I must say (now that I have a few minutes, as my participants are safely working away at their workstations), the George Clinton crowd was my favorite crowd of the event. Even though they were mostly young white Gen-X types, they were decidedly mellow. And they did not engage in any injury-causing behavior. I learned that one can't take this for granted anymore when I made the mistake of trying to get up close for the Better Than Ezra concert. I was occasionally able to look at the band, in between dodging the many 200-pound people being flung at my head. A lady in the general area broke her wrist, no doubt trying to fend off a crowd-surfer. We had to leave when someone landed right on my head and I started screaming. It was one of those occasions when life tells you in no uncertain terms, "YOU ARE TOO OLD FOR THIS." Oops -- sorry to go so far off-topic, but I couldn't resist a comment on the modern concert-going experience... Cheers, Beth ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 16:55:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Keith Dawe Subject: Re: Alloy: spice girlz On Wed, 14 May 1997, Elaine Linstruth wrote: > They're almost an all-woman Menudo for the 90's. I have no idea whether > or not they have any true talent. It's like 6 Downtown Julie Browns. Or > maybe 5, I'm not keeping up. They are a manufactured figment of gullible record-buyer's imagination. :) Nevertheless, at a recent press conference (regarding their--egads!--movie debut) they sang a few lines and... they can actually sing! Will wonders never cease. I'd be even more impressed if they wrote the songs themselves. I still pray that they go away SOON. :-) - --Omega - ------------------------------------------------------- omega@torfree.net Head of Dealer's Room -- ANIME NORTH Toronto's FIRST anime convention -- Sat. August 9, 1997 - ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 19:17:07 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mary A. Brown" Subject: Re: Alloy: A little theme music Monya, > > the Gabriel quote isn't from In Your Eyes is it? Nope, it was from "I Love To Be Loved" off the Us CD. My former boss (whom I found myself falling for) used to play that song quite a lot. I found it really touching that this hotshot cardiologist raised in TX really loved a song of such naked desire for acceptance. Are you going through finals now? I'd wish you luck but I'm sure you don't need it. What are you doing for the summer? MB ________________________________________________________________________________ Mary A. Brown, Genetic Ingenue | Department of Biochemistry Phone: (606) 257-7039,-7349 | University of Kentucky Fax: (606) 323-1037 | 800 Rose St. E-mail: mabrown@pop.uky.edu | Lexington, KY 40536-0084 "Everyone turned over troubled in their dreams again " Robert Smith ________________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 97 09:19:39 +1000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Alloy: Tap Room update. Hi y'all, After Sam's and other messages I thought I should offer a bit of an update on what's happening with the Tap Room. Some of this you'll already know, so apologies in advance for the reiteration. The story thus far: The FES website originally began life on a server at Netrex. The Tap Room was created and run using cgi-scripts developed by Netrex. Although the Tap Room is a uniquely Dolby thing thanks to it's visitors, the mechanism that runs the Tap Room is the property of Netrex. The FES website is in the process of being moved to another service provider, Best Internet Communications, Inc. - kinda appropriate since 'best' is how Thomas usually signs his messages! Because Netrex own the scripts that make the Tap Room run (no pun intended), unfortunately as part of that move the Tap Room will no longer work since those scripts won't be available. Way back at the beginning of the year, the Tap Room and indeed the whole FES site was faltering a bit. The people who were involved in setting up the site (Clif Brigden of TMDR collab and Blissworks fame, and numerous bods at Headspace - all /very/ talented people) were snowed under with new projects in their respective organisations so they couldn't dedicate the time they'd like to maintaining the site or the Tap Room. I had an email conversation with Thomas around this time and offered my services to help maintain the site (including Tap Room) and hopefully take the load of his people. He outlined a tentative but ambitious plan for an overhaul of the site, more TMDR content, more user content, as well as a merging of Alloy and the official FES list. We were going to talk more on this but things got away from us both - apologies. When the door to the Tap Room disappeared completely, I talked with Thomas again, offering to help find replacement scripts so the Tap Room could run at it's new home. He was enthusiatic about it - clearly the gentleman doesn't want to see such a precious part of the Dolby culture disappear. So, the current state of affairs is that I'm hunting down candidate cgi-scripts that will give us a new Tap Room. Once I've done that, I'll get back to TMDR with recommendations and either Headspace or both of us will figure out which best fits and start work on building the room. Here's how YOU can help: I'm doing my best to search for chat room cgi-scripts, but I may miss some, and I'm not confident enough with my own cgi-scriptwriting yet to write one from scratch. If you know of a product that sounds like it could do the job, could you email me the URL or even just the product name and I'll add it to the list to be checked out. Many eyes are better than two. The two key requirements are: + Needs to be easily configured and maintained (after all, it's likely yours truly will be looking after it. :-) + Needs to be reasonably priced or freeware. That said, if you find something but you're not sure whether it meets those requirements, let me know anyway and I'll check it out. Hope this helps clarify what's going on behind the scenes, and thanks in advance for any assistance you can offer. stay well, Paul. __________________________________________________________________________ Paul Baily paulb@thehub.com.au Consulting SE/IT Mercenary http://www.thehub.com.au/~paulb Brisbane, Australia There is a spirit here that won't be broken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 21:11:57 -0400 From: Russell Milliner Subject: Re: Alloy: Tap Room update. Greetings Paul, I have extensive experience in building cgi based chat rooms. You can see some of my chat rooms at talkroom.com (The look of the rooms is not my fault, but the engine was designed by me). That employer owns the code to that chat room, but I also have some friends who developed another excellent chat room that is freely available. You can see an example of it at http://www.shoppersmart.com/chat. This code is available, and if access to the tap room site could be arranged, we could set up the software. The code is written entirely in PERL, and designed for a Unix based server. - -Russell Milliner milliner@iag.net http://www.iag.net/~milliner Paul Baily wrote: > > Hi y'all, > > After Sam's and other messages I thought I should offer a bit of an > update on what's happening with the Tap Room. Some of this you'll already > know, so apologies in advance for the reiteration. > > The story thus far: > > The FES website originally began life on a server at Netrex. The Tap Room > was created and run using cgi-scripts developed by Netrex. Although the > Tap Room is a uniquely Dolby thing thanks to it's visitors, the mechanism > that runs the Tap Room is the property of Netrex. > > The FES website is in the process of being moved to another service > provider, Best Internet Communications, Inc. - > kinda appropriate since 'best' is how Thomas usually signs his messages! > > Because Netrex own the scripts that make the Tap Room run (no pun > intended), unfortunately as part of that move the Tap Room will no longer > work since those scripts won't be available. > > Way back at the beginning of the year, the Tap Room and indeed the whole > FES site was faltering a bit. The people who were involved in setting up > the site (Clif Brigden of TMDR collab and Blissworks fame, and numerous > bods at Headspace - all /very/ talented people) were snowed under with > new projects in their respective organisations so they couldn't dedicate > the time they'd like to maintaining the site or the Tap Room. > > I had an email conversation with Thomas around this time and offered my > services to help maintain the site (including Tap Room) and hopefully > take the load of his people. He outlined a tentative but ambitious plan > for an overhaul of the site, more TMDR content, more user content, as > well as a merging of Alloy and the official FES list. We were going to > talk more on this but things got away from us both - apologies. > > When the door to the Tap Room disappeared completely, I talked with > Thomas again, offering to help find replacement scripts so the Tap Room > could run at it's new home. He was enthusiatic about it - clearly the > gentleman doesn't want to see such a precious part of the Dolby culture > disappear. > > So, the current state of affairs is that I'm hunting down candidate > cgi-scripts that will give us a new Tap Room. Once I've done that, I'll > get back to TMDR with recommendations and either Headspace or both of us > will figure out which best fits and start work on building the room. > > Here's how YOU can help: > > I'm doing my best to search for chat room cgi-scripts, but I may miss > some, and I'm not confident enough with my own cgi-scriptwriting yet to > write one from scratch. If you know of a product that sounds like it > could do the job, could you email me the URL or even just the product > name and I'll add it to the list to be checked out. Many eyes are better > than two. > > The two key requirements are: > > + Needs to be easily configured and maintained (after all, it's likely > yours truly will be looking after it. :-) > + Needs to be reasonably priced or freeware. > > That said, if you find something but you're not sure whether it meets > those requirements, let me know anyway and I'll check it out. > > Hope this helps clarify what's going on behind the scenes, and thanks in > advance for any assistance you can offer. > > stay well, > > Paul. > > __________________________________________________________________________ > Paul Baily paulb@thehub.com.au > Consulting SE/IT Mercenary http://www.thehub.com.au/~paulb > Brisbane, Australia There is a spirit here that won't be broken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 21:16:18 -0400 From: Russell Milliner Subject: Re: Alloy: spice girlz For those of you who cannot stand the spice girlz try out this Shockwave app called Slap the Spice Girlz at http://www.head-space.com/Urban75/spice.html Also note that the url says head-space and is not TMDR's company Headspace. - -Russell Milliner milliner@iag.net Keith Dawe wrote: > > On Wed, 14 May 1997, Elaine Linstruth wrote: > > > They're almost an all-woman Menudo for the 90's. I have no idea whether > > or not they have any true talent. It's like 6 Downtown Julie Browns. Or > > maybe 5, I'm not keeping up. > > They are a manufactured figment of gullible record-buyer's > imagination. :) Nevertheless, at a recent press conference (regarding > their--egads!--movie debut) they sang a few lines and... they can > actually sing! Will wonders never cease. I'd be even more impressed > if they wrote the songs themselves. > > I still pray that they go away SOON. :-) > > --Omega > > ------------------------------------------------------- > omega@torfree.net Head of Dealer's Room -- ANIME NORTH > Toronto's FIRST anime convention -- Sat. August 9, 1997 > ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 22:01:59 -0400 From: "Curtis C. Hovey" Subject: Re: Alloy: Tap Room update. I have both a recommendation and an offer: I'm very pleased with the BBS at Solena Sol's site (recently moved to http://selena.mcp.com/). It is a PERL 5 app that includes such features as threaded discussions, HTML and image control for messages, file uploading, and user authorization for private discusions. I've made many modifications to the script to suite www.nationalgeographic.com's needs (an over powered guest book). I've added a digest mode, language filter (don't fall for that claim that the message boards are uncensored), and most importantly I've divorced the HTML templates from the code so that each message board (a collection of forums) may have its own look even though forums can be shared. The only sad thing I can remark on is that lack of administrative support. Adding an edit and delete function is a days work, and I may do this in the next two weeks...but there is little support for moderation. Adding new forms take a minute, and building new message boards only requires the creation of five HTML templates to wrap the messages. While I don't have a lot of time, I'm willing to wrap-up my working code and help assemble a new Tap Room. As for retrieving the current messages, all that is needed is some intensive pasting of old messages into the raw message format. > The two key requirements are: > > + Needs to be easily configured and maintained (after all, it's likely > yours truly will be looking after it. :-) > + Needs to be reasonably priced or freeware. > > That said, if you find something but you're not sure whether it meets > those requirements, let me know anyway and I'll check it out. > > Hope this helps clarify what's going on behind the scenes, and thanks in > advance for any assistance you can offer. cch. _______C u r t i s C. H o v e y______________________________________ mailto:chovey@access.digex.net mailto:chovey@nationalgeographic.com No matter where you go... http://www.access.digex.net/~chovey ...there you are ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 23:59:45 -0400 From: Melissa Jordan Subject: Alloy: Celebrity Slugfest I could not let Russell's post about the hysterical virtual "Whack-a-mole" game with the Spice Girls go by without directing you to another like-minded site, "Celebrity Slugfest." Put on the gloves and go a few rounds with O.J., convicted felon (and Mayor McCheese of Washington, DC) Marion Barry, Barney, Madonna, etc. The URL is: http://slugfest.kaizen.net/ Enjoy. The graphics are quite good. Re: the Tap Room... It's nice to see the level of creativity and technical knowledge there is out here among the Alloy-ites (and the willingness to share it for the good of the FES.) Very cool. We groundlings and techno-weenies salute you. Cheers, Melissa P.S. - Anyone out there in AlloyLand got a lead on an inexpensive, functioning computer for sale? I'm dead broke, and, much like the federal guv'ment, deep into deficit spending, but need one for my very leeetle fledgling business... (I'll make you a lamp or a coat...) Melissa R. Jordan Special Projects Manager International Programs Office Goodwill Industries International, Inc. (301) 881-6858 (301) 881-9435 (fax) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 20:57:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Re: Alloy: Tap Room update. On Thu, 15 May 1997, Paul Baily wrote: > The FES website is in the process of being moved to another service > provider, Best Internet Communications, Inc. - > kinda appropriate since 'best' is how Thomas usually signs his messages! Just adding my two cents -- I have a good friend in the Berkeley, CA area who had rather irritating problems with best.com. She created an account with them when she moved there that had really strange and weird configuration problems, and all of her tries to get some assistance were in vain. She said that the best.com tech support was so poor, they never did get her account running, and she felt they didn't care about it either way, so she ended up dropping them. (She worked for Bellcore at the time and is not a computer or Internet novice.) So that I don't offer only second-hand news on this subject.. my own personal experience with best.com was when I banned it from our IRC server (because of obnoxious users from that site). Some person from best, calling himself a "System Engineer" more than once, gave me what he probably thought was a thorough chewing-out. It wasn't.. he was a smarmy and sarcastic jerk, and I remember at the time thinking "their poor customers." My husband runs an ISP, so I have a little knowledge about the subject, although I'm no expert. Anyway, I just wanted to let the Tap Room PTB know the best.com reputation precedes them such that one of the Alloyers instantly recognized the domain name and said, "uhoh." Hopefully, these were just unfortunate and rare occurrences! Um, although, two happened in the same 2-month span. I dunno. > So, the current state of affairs is that I'm hunting down candidate > cgi-scripts that will give us a new Tap Room. Once I've done that, I'll > get back to TMDR with recommendations and either Headspace or both of us > will figure out which best fits and start work on building the room. Will certainly keep our eyes open. Thanks for picking up the flag and carrying on the march, Paul. :) - -- Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 97 14:41:44 +1000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Alloy: Well now... [Extract from the Mac Daily Journal ] * SegaSoft has released Obsidian, a highly-stylized alternate-reality graphic adventure puzzle game, for Power Macintosh. Instead of presenting individual puzzles out of the normal flow of a story, Obsidian links all scenes and all puzzles in a coherent, 3D whole with a musical soundtrack by Thomas Dolby. Everything is tied to everything else in this game so rich it requires a 5 CD-ROM set to hold it all. The game is available now in stores nationwide for approximately US$40, and is getting rave reviews. - --- Nice to see some developers with some taste! :-) cheers, Paul. __________________________________________________________________________ Paul Baily paulb@thehub.com.au Consulting SE/IT Mercenary http://www.thehub.com.au/~paulb Brisbane, Australia There is a spirit here that won't be broken ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V2 #85 **************************