From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V2 #12 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Sunday, January 19 1997 Volume 02 : Number 012 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: Stir fry. Re: Alloy: Stir fry. Re: Alloy: Stir fry. Alloy: Re: Concerts Re: Alloy: Stir fry. Re: Alloy: Stir fry. Re: Alloy: Stir fry. Re: Alloy: Stir fry. Re: Alloy: Stir fry. Re: Alloy: Dolby link Re: Alloy: Stir fry. Alloy: How I became a TMDR fan... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 18 Jan 97 23:28:31 -0000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Alloy: Stir fry. Hi y'all, Okay, since everyone's gotten another attack of shyness, I profer another question. Even if you've never posted here before, please do speak up, you're amongst friends - your opinion really does count! I'm a big fan of stir frying. I do it a lot: in fact my wok is probably the most often used thing in the kitchen. Stir frying is a really easy way to creatively cook food: every ingredient you add retains it's own distinctive flavour and texture, and yet it adds to the whole. We've all heard how two or more very different artists collaborating can produce simply stunning work, e.g. Peter Gabriel teaming up with Deep Forest in While The Earth Sleeps (my current fave track - try listening to it after watching the movie Strange Days, it'll give you goosebumps every time), the legendary Luciano Pavroti with U2, Sting with Dire Straits in Money For Nothing, or even a little-known Australian band called Icehouse (and no, I'm not talking the beer! :-) teaming up with Australian siren Christina Amphlett (of Divinyls fame) in a new mix of the one-of-a-kind track "Love In Motion"; combinations you would never have guessed at had they not happened, and yet they fit together so well. I'm sure you all remember the first time you heard "Close But No Cigar" with Eddie Van Halen's unmistakably L.A. roguish, yet charming (not to mention volume-craving!) guitarwork, or "Cruel" with Eddi Reader's graceful, entrancing voice complementing TMDR's style. I for one think these two tracks alone show a precious side to our intrepid hero: his ability to combine and complement some very different musical styles, and [IMHO] pull it off brilliantly. Okay, enough preamble, let me cut to the chase: Let's say Thomas was contemplating a collaboration CD (and I should state here that I'm not in a position to confirm or deny this ;-), which artists would YOU like to see him team up with for a track or two? For what it's worth, here are my picks: Peter Gabriel, Paul Buchanan (vocalist/instigator Blue Nile), Kate Pierson (vocalist B52's), Mark Hollis (vocalist/instigator Talk Talk), Michael Stipe (vocalist R.E.M.), Shona Lang (kiwi vocalist), Bob Kretschner (guitarist ex. Icehouse), Guy Pratt (bass player ex. Icehouse/Pink Floydd) Ladies and gentlemen, the floor is yours. stay well, Paul. ________________________________________________________________________ Paul Baily paulb@thehub.com.au Consulting SE/IT contractor http://www.thehub.com.au/~paulb Brisbane, Australia There is a spirit here that won't be broken. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 13:45:22 GMT From: ljackson@intex.net (Lee Jackson) Subject: Re: Alloy: Stir fry. On Sat, 18 Jan 97 23:28:31 -0000, you wrote: >Let's say Thomas was contemplating a collaboration CD (and I should state >here that I'm not in a position to confirm or deny this ;-), which >artists would YOU like to see him team up with for a track or two? Now you've hit a nerve that I can show a reflex to! Excellent question. Here's my list: Kate Bush - a great vocal pairing Rick Wakeman - imagine him playing off against TMDR's stuff! Rush - his vocals would blend brilliantly with that band Peter Gabriel - nomination seconded Jimmie Vaughn - SRV's brother - TMDR needs to do some serious blues The Prodigy - another band, but what a rave they could do together And, just for the hell of it, pair him up in a vocal duet with Willie Nelson. No, this isn't a joke. I wouldn't want him singing "Red Headed Stranger" or some country ballad, but I'd love to hear the mix of their voices. BTW, I just managed to get the demo of Obsidian up and running. Nice. There are more than a few similarities in his music on this and the music on The Gate to the Mind's Eye. // Lee Jackson // ljackson@intex.net // Garland, TX ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 09:06:38 -0800 (PST) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Re: Alloy: Stir fry. Hey! You stole my Willie Nelson idea! :) I've loved Willie's less-than-traditionally-beautiful but full-of-character voice since I was a kid growing up on country music with my mom & dad. I still stand by my hope that some day TMDR and Donald Fagen might do something together, as well as Danny Elfman. Also, has anyone out there heard of The Corrs? Irish family-band is all I know of them, but the lead singer's female voice is really quite nice. (Her sisters' harmonizing is pretty as well.) They also did lot of traditional folky music mixed with contemporary on this album I bought, and I must say I rather like it. TMDR could help them bring out the subtleties better though, I would like to hear his take on their folky irish fiddle; I mean it was so neat to get a taste of Ofra Haza in the middle of a TMDR song, yknow. (This album tends to clobber you over the head with "we're Irish and we're not all angry like Sinead O'Connor! Dammit!" Or maybe that's just what I hear.) By the way, where do I find Obsidian? - -- Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) On Sat, 18 Jan 1997, Lee Jackson wrote: > >Let's say Thomas was contemplating a collaboration CD (and I should state > >here that I'm not in a position to confirm or deny this ;-), which > >artists would YOU like to see him team up with for a track or two? > > Now you've hit a nerve that I can show a reflex to! Excellent question. > Here's my list: > > Kate Bush - a great vocal pairing > Rick Wakeman - imagine him playing off against TMDR's stuff! > Rush - his vocals would blend brilliantly with that band > Peter Gabriel - nomination seconded > Jimmie Vaughn - SRV's brother - TMDR needs to do some serious blues > The Prodigy - another band, but what a rave they could do together > > And, just for the hell of it, pair him up in a vocal duet with Willie > Nelson. No, this isn't a joke. I wouldn't want him singing "Red Headed > Stranger" or some country ballad, but I'd love to hear the mix of their > voices. > > BTW, I just managed to get the demo of Obsidian up and running. Nice. > There are more than a few similarities in his music on this and the music > on The Gate to the Mind's Eye. > > // Lee Jackson > // ljackson@intex.net > // Garland, TX ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 09:32:34 -0800 (PST) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Alloy: Re: Concerts Hi Mary :) I've been so neglectful of email lately, I apologize. It does sound like we could get into some concert-going trouble, doesn't it! When I saw Oingo Boingo, it was with tix we'd won from a radio station, complete with backstage passes! My (now) husband and I went, total dorks, we aren't accustomed to meeting celebrities or anything, we just liked Oingo and were glad to see the concert at all. The show was perfect, at the Boathouse in Norfolk, VA -- my all-time favorite place to see a show. It's stand-only, small, serves beer, you get really close to the stage. It was great! So after the show we went back to meet the band, and all these other fans had t-shirts and Sharpies, posters and whatnot and we didn't have anything for anyone to sign. So my husband grabbed a Boingo Secret Society xerox-copied flyer, and that's what we used! What dorks. Anyway, Elfman signed it and I forget who else, I'd have to go dig it out of storage (only 2 or 3 band members). The goofiest thing we did was when we went to shook Elfman's hand, we said "congratulations on the Grammy" he'd just won for Batman. He was like, "Uh, thanks!" I cringe when I think about what wusses we were. :) I'd really like to see TMBG, have two of their albums. Also highly recommended was Michelle Shocked, have you ever seen her? One of these days. I grew up as a US Navy military brat, so I heard all sections of the country complain about all the other sections. The longest I ever lived anywhere as a military dependent was suburban Chicago, and it was my favorite place to live. Second was the Washington DC area, where I migrated back to as an adult, and from where I just moved to California. And yes you remember correctly, as I sit here I'm about to "pop" -- the due date is February 5th. Thanks for the vote of confidence, I've toured the hospital to try and ground out my fears that they won't let anything bad happen to me. Nightmares during the third trimester have been quite wacky! You have a Liz Phair tag line in your .signature, that's a girl I'd like to see live too. I fell in love with Whip-Smart and just got Exile recently. Now I need to go get the Stones album, so I can see how that worked (never was much of a Stones fan). I found a telnet site with obscure lyrics, and now I know the words to the Whip-Smart songs -- it does make the songs better. I've always wanted to comment on that, glad I thought of it. Thank you, TMDR, for supplying us with your lyrics on your albums. I've been trying to remember to say that for awhile now. I'm experimenting with the Green Dinosaur stuff at the Headspace site. So far, awesome, but I'm waiting for my purchase email-reply. Paul, did you say there are Flat Earth excerpts there? I can't find any. Take care, Mary and everyone! :) - -- Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 13:15:56 -0500 From: "Christopher S.Hurt" Subject: Re: Alloy: Stir fry. How about - -k.d. lang - -Andy Partidge (of XTC fame) - -the Heads (no Talking) and just for the heck of it Fishbone, that would be interesting. Regards, CSHurt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 14:10:48 -0500 (EST) From: Keith Dawe Subject: Re: Alloy: Stir fry. Hi! Here's my list: David Bowie (don't laugh) David Sylvian Mike Oldfield Adrian Belew Emmylou Harris Mark Hollis (already mentioned, but I love this choice) The Dirty Three Of course I'd pleased as punch if my fav guitarists would play with him (Oldfield, Belew, Robert Fripp, Steve Howe and Steve Hackett). That's all I can think of! - --Omega - -------------------------------------------------- omega@torfree.net - Proud member of #SkAS# Skuld Appreciation Society, Goddess of De-buggers! - -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 11:22:34 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Clayton Subject: Re: Alloy: Stir fry. I second Kate Bush. Another Fairlight pioneer! Brian Eno would be a consideration as well. On this side of the pond, perhaps the likes of They Might Be Giants, or The Bobs...I think their sense(s) of humor would dovetail with TD's. Additionally, either group could cover some TD songs very well, I'm sure. Hmmm...maybe I'll think of more later... BC - --- Brian Clayton "The only real acting is with the Royal Shakespearean stemish@kumr.lns.com Company. What on Earth would you want to do science fiction for?" -- Patrick Stewart, 1980 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jan 97 13:43:29 MST From: bcohen@LPL.Arizona.EDU (Barbara A Cohen) Subject: Re: Alloy: Stir fry. I too second Peter Gabriel and Kate Bush. My personal picks would be Laurie Anderson, Lou Reed (or perhaps both at once, since they're conveniently married :) ), Robyn Hitchcock more than just a voice sample, the techno/ambient band Orb, Tori Amos, Suzanne Vega, and perhaps some 50's style surf band or someone with a cool spaghetti-western guitar style. What a neat question, Paul! Barbara Cohen Cosmochemical Cocktail Mixer, PhD to be --------------------------------------- Entropy isn't what it used to be. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 13:43:11 -0800 From: David Abbitt Subject: Re: Alloy: Stir fry. Here's my pix... Andy Partridge and Thomas would make a wonderful pairing, maybe 2 trax? Kate Bush, sumptuous layered vocals and keys. Peter Gabriel, need I say more? World Party/Karl Wallinger Tone Toni Tony -- Thomas doing some R&B with one of the finest R&B balladier bands of the last decade would be instant chemisty, IMHO. Howard Jones, with whom TMDR and Herbie Hancock have hooked up with before for a grammy performance oh so many years ago. Toad The Wet Sprocket -- Why not? Sting - Thomas has never done work (to my knowledge) with this guy, whose songwriting as late seems to have gone rather stale, so it would be interesting to listen to him actually have to get up for something he and Thomas wrote/recorded together. And FINALLY -- DAVID LEE ROTH -- He apparently needs the work. Best, David ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 13:47:02 -0800 (PST) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Re: Alloy: Dolby link Gee, Mr. Crawford doesn't mince words, does he. It's funny how everyone sees things so differently...he apparently dislikes AAMB, while I would almost call it my favorite. It's fun and it was my first Dolby "listen," so maybe that's why. It always puts me in a good mood, anyway. Who is he anyway, some kind of Siskel or Ebert of the UK music world? And what's he got against something sounding "American?" :-) - -- Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) On Sun, 5 Jan 1997, Brian Clayton wrote: > Al Crawford, who wrote the post about Shingle Street, has a > page full of his reviews of various albums, including some > of Dolby's. For the collectors of URLs, it's at: > > http://www.access.digex.net/~awrc/review/d/thomas_dolby.html > > BC > > --- > Brian Clayton "The only real acting is with the Royal Shakespearean > stemish@kumr.lns.com Company. What on Earth would you want to do science > fiction for?" -- Patrick Stewart, 1980 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 18:49:46 -0700 From: Keith Stansell Subject: Re: Alloy: Stir fry. I thing TMDR and Bjork would be an interesting combination. They both have such diverse yet somewhat similar styles on their albums. They would definitely come up with something new and exciting. Keith Stansell Salt Lake City, UT www.concentric.net/~kasman ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 21:06:52 -0800 (PST) From: Philip N Louie Subject: Alloy: How I became a TMDR fan... Hi Everyone, Seems a little quiet here, so I guess it's time I should introduce myself and come out of lurkdom. My name is Phil and I'm a pretty new Dolby fan. I guess I call myself a "casual" fan. I got the 45 rpm 7" singles for "She Blinded Me With Science" and "Hyperactive!" when they were first released, but I never got the full albums. Still, I played them to death. :) Last year, I decided to finally buy the Retrospectacle and I was blown away! The change in styles and moods of each song really sounded good like nothing I've ever heard before. I don't know why, but Dolby's music just has something that's different from others. Maybe it's because I'm not crazy about most of today's music...I don't know. I then bought "The Golden Age of Wireless", "The Flat Earth" and "Astronauts and Heretics" and have enjoyed most of the songs on these albums. They've been in active rotation in my CD player for a while. I skipped "Aliens Ate My Buick" because I wasn't too hot about "Pulp Culture" or "Budapest By Blimp". (plus it was an expensive import) Next, I found a used copy of "The Golden Age of Video" and now I really enjoyed his pioneering videos. Plus, "Airhead" and "Hot Sauce" are my favorite because they're funny and sounded good. I ended up buying "Aliens Ate My Buick" and enjoyed every song except the two mentioned above although "Budapest By Blimp" is starting to grow on me. One day, I wanted to rent a movie and decided to see if "Howard The Duck" was as bad as it was. Well, I was surprised when I saw the "Original Songs Produced by Thomas Dolby" credit. I paid particular attention to the music and I really enjoyed it. The cameo was cool too. :) (The movie was fair. I've seen movies that are A LOT worse.) Lastly, I bumped into the Flat Earth Society and its wealth of information plus this great mailing list. I've enjoyed the discussions and the great concert description. Makes me wish I got into TMDR's music sooner. (Then again, I don't think my mom would let me go to a concert...) Anyway, that's enough of my novel. I'll save my bazillion questions about TMDR for another message. (In the words of our fearless leader) May the cube be with you, Phil ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V2 #12 **************************