From: owner-alloy-digest To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V1 #11 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Monday, 1 July 1996 Volume 01 : Number 011 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: Fwd: Offworld 2.0 web site Alloy: More admin stuff... Alloy: Fwd: Questions... Re: Alloy: Fwd: Questions... Alloy: Windows background ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Baily Date: Sun, 30 Jun 96 23:45:39 +1000 Subject: Alloy: Fwd: Offworld 2.0 web site Subject: Offworld 2.0 web site Sent: 12/6/96 12:49 am Received: 24/6/96 11:58 am From: Anechoic Media, anechoic@sirius.com To: alloy@smoe.org Take a journey through Headspace OFFWORLD and experience Myst-like navigable worlds, enhanced by original MIDI music (created by Thomas Dolby and others here at Headspace), incredible 3D graphics, QuickTime movies, QuickTime VR panoramas, and mysterious and intriguing writings. See how Headspace is pushing the envelope of web technology by implementing all the newest features of Netscape Navigator...Join us on the bleeding edge of technology...... Version 2.0 of the site just went up so come by for a visit... http://www.headspace.com/offworld ------------------------------ From: Paul Baily Date: Sun, 30 Jun 96 23:45:53 +1000 Subject: Alloy: More admin stuff... Hi folks, Just a couple of quickies before we return you to our regularly scheduled program: Firstly, if you've tried to send a message to Alloy only to have it not appear on the list, please let me know. In order to avoid us being inundated with junk mail that some lists are (unfortunately) subject to, Alloy is configured to only accept posts from those on it's subscriber list, so if your outgoing mail address is a little different to the one you subscribed under your message will bounce. We do have a workaround for these cases though and as soon as I figure out how (or Jeff tells me ;-) to implement it, I'll do so. The listserver lets me know whenever a message bounces so if you encounter problems I should have you talking with the list very soon after. Please bear with me in the meantime; I'm still working out the finer points of Majordomo. Secondly, and this is just a minor one, now that Alloy messages are going out under the alloy@smoe.org address and not my own, do you think we should keep the "Alloy:" subject prefix to these messages? It seems a tad redundant but then maybe that's just me. Let me know what you think: Thanks for your patience and support! stay well, Paul. P.S. to those of you who've sent me email and are waiting for a reply, apologies, I'm working through a mammoth backlog (before you ask, no, the mammoth isn't particularly enjoying it :-) and am trying to give each one the attention it deserves. I'll get back to you RSN. ________________________________________________________________________ Paul Baily paulb@powerup.com.au Consulting SE/IT gun for hire Brisbane, Australia There is a spirit here that won't be broken. ------------------------------ From: Paul Baily Date: Sun, 30 Jun 96 23:45:58 +1000 Subject: Alloy: Fwd: Questions... [I'm forwarding this and one other message, subject "Fwd: Offworld 2.0 web site" to the list as they bounced the first time 'round. - PB] Subject: Questions... Sent: 20/6/96 3:40 am Received: 24/6/96 11:59 am From: Mary Ellen Spiegel, mspiegel@frontiernet.net To: alloy@smoe.org Bonjour, I have a few questions which have kept me pondering these many days... 'Why does Dr. Terenzi have such a strong accent on 'N.E.O'. but not on 'Quantum Mechanic'?? On purpose or does it have something to do with the entire attitude of 'singing'- ie stutter... Do I detect some heavy ... um, I won't say 'borrowing' (what's the quote??? "Good artists borrow, great artists steal"- [I may be mediocre or just plain good but I steal and steal and steal- watch out!!] ;) from Carmina Burana in 'Armageddon'; - -and- isn't the base riff in I Love You Good-bye the same or close to the one in Michael Jackson's 'Thriller'??? Enough for starters... Thanks and Kisses, Emmy (from Ms. ME Spiegel who finally got enough saved to buy her 1st Kevlar kayak and broke her 'laig' (what one of my nurses called it- damn near drove me nuts) the very next day... so now she can just gaze upon it the rest of the season....) nb- Oh!! I forget---- - ----DOG!!!---- ;> Emmy ME aka Femme Mary Ellen Spiegel pick one ;) Quote of the day: "Let us roll all our strength and all Our sweetness up into one ball And take our pleasures with rough strife Through the iron gates of life; Thus, though we may not make our sun stand still, Yet we will make her run." - -Andrew Marvell (from memory so forgive if misquoted) Relax, proposed home page is now a far and distant dream.... no no, don't cry ;D ------------------------------ From: dagfinn.koch@t-online.de (Dagfinn Koch) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 19:39:00 +0200 Subject: Re: Alloy: Fwd: Questions... Schoen guten Tag! I've read the interesting questions from Mary Ellen Spiegel. She writes "Good artists borrow, great artists steal"! Offcause they do. Beethoven is realy one of the best example of stealing (e.g. third symphony). In "modern classical" music e.g. Luciano Berio (Sinfonia) and Bernd Alois Zimmermann (Die Soldaten) you can find compositional strategies wich implies collage (Berio) and metamusic/music over music (Zimmermann). The question conserning borrowing is ofcause wery interesting when it comes to popmusic. I mean "we're all in it for the money"... So if somebody finds out that someone has borrowed six of eight bars, or a tiny little sample (in the States), for their magahit, the lawers starts their work. But in popmusic there are actually few possible variations when it comes to pitch, rythm and duration. I mean: Four beats per measure, tree chords, syncopation and text with rime. What I find so extreamely good with Dolbys music, is that he makes music that is interesting on more then one level. He is not saying "look at me"(narcissism), but he invites you to look at "what he has invented" together with him (understanding through entertainment). And therefore I think his motive for doing what he's doing, comes from a genuin interest for the medias (text/music/video) he expresses himself through. Stay well! (Alles gute!) dagfinn (...Luebeck is also a City i Germany!) ------------------------------ From: ljackson@intex.net (Lee Jackson) Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 00:14:37 GMT Subject: Alloy: Windows background I've had something on my desktop for a long while now, and I was wondering a couple of things about it. It is a background BMP I made by capturing a frame out of the Quicktime movie of Europa that was posted on FES. It's a picture of TMDR, in the middle of yelling, "Yeah Yeah Yeahhh!". My questions are: 1. Would Thomas object to this being posted on the Invention gallery on FES, or distributed by e-mail to Alloy subscribers who requested it? 2. Would anyone else actually want a copy of the thing? Please advise, and thanks! // Lee Jackson // ljackson@intex.net // Garland, TX ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V1 #11 **************************