From: owner-50s60s70s-digest@smoe.org (50s60s70s-digest) To: 50s60s70s-digest@smoe.org Subject: 50s60s70s-digest V1 #8 Reply-To: 50s60s70s@smoe.org Sender: owner-50s60s70s-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-50s60s70s-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk 50s60s70s-digest Wednesday, January 23 2002 Volume 01 : Number 008 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * 50s60s70s-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: 50s60s70s-digest V1 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- R&R: Beatles covers ["Lew - New World Warehouse" ] R&R: Re: a couple of album pics ["TSUNAMI" ] R&R: Re: Beatles covers [Honoku@aol.com] Re: R&R: Side1, Track 1 [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: R&R: the doors/jim morrison [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] R&R: Thanks and No Thanks [RockinRonD@aol.com] R&R: steeleye span [Honoku@aol.com] Re: R&R: the doors/jim morrison [Honoku@aol.com] Re: R&R: steeleye span [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: R&R: the doors/jim morrison [Jerry Notaro ] Re: R&R: the doors/jim morrison [Smokefeath@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 23:59:14 -0600 From: "Lew - New World Warehouse" Subject: R&R: Beatles covers A good Beatles covers album is one that was put out awhile back called "Beatlejuice". It was a bunch of New York bands doing Beatles covers (some major, some not). Stuttering John (from the howard stern show) does a pretty good heavy rendition of "Strawberry Fields"....there's a great version of Across the Universe on there except for the fact he screws up one of the chorus lines (says, "Deja" instead of "Deva") which kinda bugs me, but the arrangement is great. There's also a really psychotic version of "All Together Now" which sounds like a bunch of hillbillies recorded it...interesting. I have it laying around here in my collection somewhere. Lew www.coilback.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 01:50:10 EST From: Cember76@aol.com Subject: R&R: the doors/jim morrison Hey I was just wondering what all of you people who did grow up in the time that the doors were at their peak thought of them. I am also a girl of the 80's and 90's. And the doors were a big influence on my peers and I we listened to them over and over again at many a 'kick back' house party. We also watched the Doors movie in a cult like fashion. of course with many drugs involve. but most of them times were good times and every time i hear a doors song i reminds me of my teens. so i am just wondering what you older people on the list thought of them in the beginning? do you think that they warrant such a following or were they just another band in their time. I read what lewis said about them in his top ten thing. do you all thing that they paved the way for dark rock as well? just wondering December ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 01:53:55 EST From: Cember76@aol.com Subject: Re: R&R: Side1, Track 1 In a message dated 1/21/2002 5:20:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, SCJoniGuy@aol.com writes: > 4. "Smells Like Teen Spirit" (Nirvana, Nevermind) ummmmm does nirvana count on this list...?? I love the album don't get me wrong but they are 90's??????? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 02:53:38 -0800 From: "TSUNAMI" Subject: R&R: a couple of album pics hi everyone - greetings ( : I'm on Digest, and don't know what may have come before; I hesitated joining this list because I feared some annoyances (a small handful of people) from some of my other music lists might already have landed here, but it appears not (whew! lol); ok, so, into this safe-from-pointless-arguments environment, I shall wade... and, at this moment, I'm swamped with work (lining up a tour for an artist who, barring tragedy, will be talked about by future generations in the same way we're here talking 'bout the greats from rock and roll revolution era) - so, I'll be mostly a reader, not writer - but here's a couple of my all-time discs that don't appear to have been mentioned: 1) Astral Weeks - Van Morrison (timeless, truly, but I think it was recorded in '67 or thereabouts) 2) Exile on Main Street - the Rolling Stones (late '60s as well - for me, the Stones' peak) peace, Adrian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 02:57:38 -0800 From: "TSUNAMI" Subject: R&R: Re: a couple of album pics holy - just checked the cover, and Exile on Main Street was released in '72! ok, have fun y'all Adrian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 06:36:11 EST From: Honoku@aol.com Subject: R&R: Re: Beatles covers In a message dated 1/22/2002 12:59:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, lewis@newworldwarehouse.com writes: > A good Beatles covers album is one that was put out awhile back called > "Beatlejuice". It was a bunch of New York bands doing Beatles covers i agree lew, it is a good collection. i have gathered it as i do most beatle cover collections i have run into. the one that puzzles me the most in it's unavailability is a two record (lp) set called "all this and world war II" that has peter gabriel doing a great version of strawberry fields mixed in with a great variety of artists. other of the songs have surfaced in other collections over the years, but not that song. it figure it must be something with licensing i keep wishing this would come out on cd, but i have never seen it, or even heard any one else even mention this collection. i think i just picked it up a k mart or somewhere like that 25 years ago or so. but it then sunk from sight, and most memories. steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 08:05:20 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: R&R: Side1, Track 1 <> You're correct of course, but I couldn't omit one of the best and most influential 1-1's ever, I don't care if it just came out last week! ;~) Bob NP: Steeleye Span, "Thomas The Rhymer" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 08:38:31 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: R&R: the doors/jim morrison <> I thought they were great! They sounded unique and original. Much more serious-sounding musically and lyrically than the other psychedelic bands with the silly names like Strawberry Alarm Clock, Electric Prunes, and Chocolate Watchband. "Light My Fire" was the first thing most of us heard, I would guess. If I'm not mistaken, it was released as a single more than once back then. I say that because I remember it being on the radio a little, then time passed when it wasn't heard much, then it was on everytime you turned on the radio! There was a certain amount of controversy when they sang "Girl we couldn't get much higher", especially when they sang it on Ed Sullivan after being warned not to. At least Morrison didn't pull his "pocket pal" out on the show! Anyway, AM radio gave lots of time to those hits: "People Are Strange", "Love Me Two Times", "Hello I Love You". Then in the 70's came FM with a much looser format...besides the hits you could hear "Riders On The Storm", "When The Music's Over", etc. <> I don't know as I'd say they 'paved the way', but they certainly contributed. They always sounded to me like no one else, because of the classical influence (Manzarek), the blues influence (Krieger), and the jazz influence (Densmore) tied together by a baritone-voiced poet on psychedelics! If you haven't read it, find a copy of "No One Here Gets Out Alive"...a fascinating read about them. Bob NP: Susan Ashton, "Down On My Knees" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:00:03 EST From: RockinRonD@aol.com Subject: R&R: Thanks and No Thanks Personal thanks to RonG for providing the chords & lyrics to "The Road" by Danny O'Keefe on the last digest. Just a quick glance at the chords tells me they are dead on accurate as per usual. If we can keep politics and personal causes to a minimum on this list, we're golden. This doesn't mean we shouldn't discus political songs--the list era invented the genre--but our personal views on space exploration and sexual preferences of certain artists is better left to those on the Dar Williams list IMO. OldFartRonD ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:11:58 EST From: Honoku@aol.com Subject: R&R: steeleye span In a message dated 1/22/2002 8:06:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, SCJoniGuy@aol.com writes: > Bob > > NP: Steeleye Span, "Thomas The Rhymer" > have you heard ravenchild by maddy? her best solo album, way way above anything else she has done solo. imo. i love nyc. i went to see maddy at the bottom line within the last couple of years. (bottom line, SMALL club in greenwich village) i walked in a little late for the opening act kathy trickle. into a half full club. the front half was full, the back half after the isle was mostly empty. i sat at the front end of one of the almost empty tables. across from me sat maddy by herself watching the show from the audience, when kathy was done, maddy went back behind the stage, came out front and did her show. no sweat, no big deal, nyc. steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:21:05 EST From: Honoku@aol.com Subject: Re: R&R: the doors/jim morrison In a message dated 1/22/2002 1:50:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, Cember76@aol.com writes: > Hey I was just wondering what all of you people who did grow up in the time > that the doors were at their peak thought of them. i loved them until i found out my younger sister really loved them. the first album with it's long songs was pivotal to the fm radio format cultural revolution. fm radio was unbelievably cool in new york. we had dj's like rosco, and zacharly, who would just start talking, and they would ramble on a mind journey for half an hour, bringing you/us along. i/we would get totaly wrapped in what they were rambling about, forgetting where they started of why they started, not caring where they were going, just wrapped up in their social poetical political spiel, till their monologue would evolve into one of these long format songs such as back door man, or the end, or break on through, and the song would complete the point, and it would all come together and make sense, and we were brought to a new state of mind, peaceful happy fulfilled, feeling like we were part of what was going on, part of the new america, the new world. steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:21:24 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: R&R: steeleye span <> No, this song I was playing was on a sampler that a friend in Boston made for me. The Steeleye song was definitely the highlight, sounded to me like Jethro Tull with a female lead vocalist! Unfortunately, here in the south in the 70's the Euro-folk rock (Fairport/Steeleye/Pentangle/Renaisssance, etc)didn't get much airplay alongside Skynyrd, so I always heard OF those bands but never heard THEM. So anyway, this one Span track has me wanting more...what should I get? Bob NP: Ani Difranco, "dog coffee" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:40:05 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: R&R: the doors/jim morrison Well, as one of the "older" members who was around I have to say that I was enthralled with The Doors, just as much for Jim's antics, which were always in the news, as well as the music. I was more drawn to the poetry and freedom of the music rather than the druggie aspect. I wouldn't say it was the forefront of "dark" music as much as the electrification of the acoustic, LA style. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 21:55:34 -0000 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: R&R: Pioneer DJs Steve Honoku@aol.com wrote > fm radio was unbelievably cool in new york. we had dj's like rosco, and > zacharly, who would just start talking, and they would ramble on a mind > journey for half an hour, bringing you/us along. Funny you should mention this - I'd just been reading a really good article about the Glory Days of FM radio in the States - see http://www.wrti.com/wrti/citypaper-sciaky/coverstory.html - interviewing US radio pioneers like Ed Sciaky and Gene Shay about how it was back then - it includes this paragraph (next to a picture of Bruce, Bowie and Sciaky) which ties in with this Doors thread - ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > You Turn Me On, I'm A Radio > As the hippie urban legend goes, free-form radio was the > brain-fried child of the late "Big Daddy" Tom Donohue, a > former Top 40 jock on Philadelphia's WIBG-AM who had > relocated to San Francisco in the era of peace, love and > heavy drugs. In 1967, according to Jim Ladd's book Radio > Waves, Donohue and his young wife Raechel were "listening > to The Doors' first album, while rearranging their brain cells > via Dr. Tim's magic snake oil. The playing cards were starting > to melt, and it became increasingly difficult to tell the hearts > from the diamonds, when through the haze of incense and > acid, [Tom Donohue] shifted his enormous bulk and posed > a fateful question: 'Why in the hell aren't we hearing any of this > on the radio?'" All the best Paul pdcmusic@freeuk.com PS I like this bit - >.....DJs who spun records during a short period that Sciaky dubs > "When the inmates took over the asylum and no one was looking." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 20:14:23 EST From: Smokefeath@aol.com Subject: Re: R&R: the doors/jim morrison In a message dated 1/22/02 12:50:46 AM Central Standard Time, Cember76@aol.com writes: > . so i am just wondering what you older > people on the list thought of them in the beginning? I guess I qualify as an "older people," since I was 24 and in graduate school when The Doors album came out in January of 1967. We were stunned by it in Austin, Texas. It was considered a masterpiece--a rock landmark. There was not a bad track on that album. And The Doors were thoght of as a band, at that point, not three musicians backing Jim Morrison. The album was so special that the band's second album, "Strange Days," which came out in October of the same year was regarded by everyone I knew as a major disappointment. Then "Waiting for the Sun" came out the next summer and it was also disappointing when compared to the first release. We were all about ready to write off The Doors as a popular band that did not deserve its popularity past the first album. That opinion didn't change until 1970 when the Doors released "Morrison Hotel" and then followed it in 1971 with "L.A. Woman." Overall, the people I knew at that time thought the Doors were overrated, probably because Morrison's personality and antics overshadowed the musicianship. They released one stunning album, the first one, but never achieved the status of the Stones or The Who or even Jimi Hendrix. ****************** The only reason I would take up exercising is so that I could hear heavy breathing again. ------------------------------ End of 50s60s70s-digest V1 #8 *****************************